DPS or DPH sin?

Sparq - Archosaur
Sparq - Archosaur Posts: 2 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Assassin
Which type of sin is more successful in pvp end game: a dph sin using chill of the deep and spamming skills or a dps sin using normal attacks with demon spark and relentless courage? Each seem to have their advantages and disadvantages, but I don't have enough experience in pvp to make a decision. Plus I want to make a high level genie and its build would depend on which type of pvp style I use.

A dex build for dph with skills:
Thunderstorm, ToP, Extreme Poison, maybe Bramble Rage, or other skills if you have suggestions. (How's that skill Dragonfire? It looks like a strong skill, but is it worth it?)

A str build for dps:
Relentless Courage, Second Wind, Tangling Mire, and Leaf Dance.

I'd appreciate any help and advice.
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  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    a DPH sin kills squishies easily.

    a DPS sin kills everyone easily.

    a DPS sin can easily throw CoD on and kill squishies in 1-2 hits anyway
    I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of title, the character of an honest man. -George Washington
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You know demon sparks speed buf and courage speed buf don't stack right?

    Both are strong, DpH is probably cheaper, but DpS stronger (as you need 1hell of alot of -interval gear to be strong in that)
    Both probably works, and both can be perma sparked with sins skils (rising dragon strike, tackling slash, harmony)
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • A_Noob - Dreamweaver
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    you want both:


    61348498.jpg
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you want both:


    61348498.jpg

    I'ma guess that you are cheze, and f u!!!!!!!!!!! b:cry
  • A_Noob - Dreamweaver
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    why? you're not even on dw :O
  • Deathiris - Sanctuary
    Deathiris - Sanctuary Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    o.O

    I'm seeing CoD and 5.0... that damage is with fists?
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Deathiris - Sanctuary wrote: »
    o.O

    I'm seeing CoD and 5.0... that damage is with fists?

    And I see no defences at all.
    How did you get those numbers?
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Deathiris - Sanctuary
    Deathiris - Sanctuary Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    He has frenzy and CoD on for 50 atk lvl which also reduces his defense
    Frenzy is whats reducing his defense, i think its 100% reduction (?)
  • TurboTaxi - Lost City
    TurboTaxi - Lost City Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    rofl, he's on a private server.
    "Stay cool, be respectful, know your limits, and accept it when you've lost....

    ...then maybe i'll stick around a bit longer. b:victory" -Anonymous

    93 Barb (BattleBurger)
    100 Assassin (TurboTaxi)
  • Dacaremus - Dreamweaver
    Dacaremus - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    TurboTaxi - Lost City wrote: »
    rofl, he's on a private server.

    who... A_Noob? Just look at his forum avatar, he is in Dreamweaver... and he's totally right - why would anyone want to choose either DPS or DPH and stick with that playing style for every situation? It's much better to focus on both, as they both certainly have their uses.
  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    rofl, he's on a private server.

    lol, i won't insult you but here s the kicker....There is no private server with Tideborns yet....as a matter of fact there are not even private servers with genies in it.
    [SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=4646770002&dateline=1263479136[/SIGPIC]
  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you want both:


    61348498.jpg

    You have just made me want to quit the game. Or rob a bank and lvl a sin, idk which just yet.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper. - T. S. Eliot
  • Raggen - Dreamweaver
    Raggen - Dreamweaver Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    This numbers are "simple". His equipaments:

    1) Rank 8 Top
    2) HH 100 Fists ou 95 Lunar Claws
    3) 2 parts of Ashura set
    4) 2 parts of Lion Rex set
    5) Nirnava pants
    6) Lunar Cape (the one with -int)
    7) Tome with -int

    His interval between attacks will be 0.15s. With Chill, it will get at 0.3s. With Demon Spark, he will go to 5.0 aps.
  • unclebrown
    unclebrown Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you want both:


    61348498.jpg

    From now on....anyone who says classes are balanced...will get slapped b:beatenup
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Raggen - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This numbers are "simple". His equipaments:

    1) Rank 8 Top
    2) HH 100 Fists ou 95 Lunar Claws
    3) 2 parts of Ashura set
    4) 2 parts of Lion Rex set
    5) Nirnava pants
    6) Lunar Cape (the one with -int)
    7) Tome with -int

    His interval between attacks will be 0.15s. With Chill, it will get at 0.3s. With Demon Spark, he will go to 5.0 aps.

    Errr math fail?

    0.7-0.1-0.1-0.05-0.05-0.05-0.05-0.05=0.25, not 0.15.
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    why? you're not even on dw :O

    Well, yeah... but you should fund my rank 8 on here b:avoid.
  • Raggen - Dreamweaver
    Raggen - Dreamweaver Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You're the one who failed Okeano...
    Pay attention, and remember that Ashura Bracers give -0.1s
  • Sparq - Archosaur
    Sparq - Archosaur Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You know demon sparks speed buf and courage speed buf don't stack right?

    Both are strong, DpH is probably cheaper, but DpS stronger (as you need 1hell of alot of -interval gear to be strong in that)
    Both probably works, and both can be perma sparked with sins skils (rising dragon strike, tackling slash, harmony)

    Yea I know they don't stack, but since I'm only 78 I would use relentless courage for the time being to increase my attack rate. It also makes me consider going sage instead of demon since I would get the damage reduction while also getting the increased attack rate. But I'm gonna wait til they actually come out with the demon/sage skills to choose.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Raggen - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You're the one who failed Okeano...
    Pay attention, and remember that Ashura Bracers give -0.1s

    b:shockedb:surrender
  • A_Noob - Dreamweaver
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Raggen - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This numbers are "simple". His equipaments:

    1) Rank 8 Top
    2) HH 100 Fists ou 95 Lunar Claws
    3) 2 parts of Ashura set
    4) 2 parts of Lion Rex set
    5) Nirnava pants
    6) Lunar Cape (the one with -int)
    7) Tome with -int

    His interval between attacks will be 0.15s. With Chill, it will get at 0.3s. With Demon Spark, he will go to 5.0 aps.

    Incorrect, but close.
  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Motoko - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You have just made me want to quit the game. Or rob a bank and lvl a sin, idk which just yet.
    Same minus the "lvl a sin" part b:surrender
    First 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
    Quit.
  • unclebrown
    unclebrown Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Incorrect, but close.

    yo...how is your pvp experience....with these stats?

    Which classes do you find hardest to kill?
  • Raggen - Dreamweaver
    Raggen - Dreamweaver Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Do u mind to show us your "magic recipe"? I really curious, cuz I cant think in any other way to get it.
  • A_Noob - Dreamweaver
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    unclebrown wrote: »
    yo...how is your pvp experience....with these stats?

    Which classes do you find hardest to kill?

    Wizards and Archers come closest to killing me, since wizzy can just one shot me with a crit when nerve on cooldown...
  • unclebrown
    unclebrown Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wizards and Archers come closest to killing me, since wizzy can just one shot me with a crit when nerve on cooldown...

    TY b:thanks

    I'm going off to sleep now, good night b:bye
  • PenutButer - Dreamweaver
    PenutButer - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you want both:


    61348498.jpg

    Hai :O. Btw he has nirvana daggers w/-.1 :o
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A_Noob - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wizards and Archers come closest to killing me, since wizzy can just one shot me with a crit when nerve on cooldown...

    how does an archer come close to killing you? i find archers to be the easiest target. wizards i agree are the toughest though (the non-fail ones)
    I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of title, the character of an honest man. -George Washington
  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ok so youve spent 6 mil on the game and can take any class 1v1 no problem. but what is -int gunna do for you when youre trying to take down 6 people that gank you when you unstealth?
    i dont think its a secret to the ones that know me know im going more for DPH. but that doesnt mean im not gunna get all the -int gear i can get. 1v1 doesnt really interest me to much. i wanna take everyone down at the same time.
  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands wrote: »
    ok so youve spent 6 mil on the game and can take any class 1v1 no problem. but what is -int gunna do for you when youre trying to take down 6 people that gank you when you unstealth?
    i dont think its a secret to the ones that know me know im going more for DPH. but that doesnt mean im not gunna get all the -int gear i can get. 1v1 doesnt really interest me to much. i wanna take everyone down at the same time.

    Thats how I feel exactly.

    I want to get the -int gear and still knock everyone down when i skill >:3
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  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thats how I feel exactly.

    I want to get the -int gear and still knock everyone down when i skill >:3

    and you can. a full DPH set would be just to get rank 8 armor and have a higher crit chance than a -int set.

    a -int set can still throw on CoD and aoe targets with subsea + bramble rage

    thats why sins are so great ;)
    I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of title, the character of an honest man. -George Washington
  • Dunkya - Heavens Tear
    Dunkya - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    How did you go about getting 200k+ rep A-Noob?
    Ok so you cash shopped like mad.

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