#2 TW Faction on Heaven Tear?

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  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Everyone except Tao is curious if Rad can topple the very same faction that was week in and week out taking their lands until we forced them to attack us.

    Tao is simply scared they will lose 2 lands rather than 1 each week.
    "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow you must be dense like your guild leader. I posted that I'm quitting in about a month and asked to see for ONE WEEKEND OF Tao vs Radiance. That was all that was asked for. That is just to see who is stronger of the two and nothing more. After that one weekend you can attack whoever. You all must be slow or something but whatever it's your choice. If you actually read what I type instead of glancing at it then you'd know what was said.

    You and I both know that you've played this game long enough to know that proving dominance one week does not prove dominance the next week and all that Rad/Tao attacking each other would create is another battlefront on which neither benefits. "Lets fight each other for the number 2 spot!" Translation, lets prove we're not out to be the best but that we're out to prevent others from surpassing the best.

    History lesson on Tao's attacks
    Rad
    Rad
    Enrage
    Enrage
    Triad
    Triad
    Enrage
    Enrage
    Rad
    Enrage for about 4-5 months with 3 Caesar attacks in the mix
    Rawthorne joins Tao, states Rad is intending to attack 1k
    Rad Marshall confirms statement as truth
    Tao attacks rad land neighboring 1k
    Tao attacks other rad land neighboring 1k
    I pm Aubrey (rad leader at that time): we don't care about your other lands bordering us, but the immediate threat to 1k was no longer tolerable with information being leaked from your guild, stop attacking us and we'll leave you be.
    Tao attacks Enrage (rad attacks Tao)
    Tao attacks Rad
    I pm Aubrey: statement stands, if you do not attack Tao, Tao will not attack you
    Tao attacks Enrage (rad attacks Tao)
    Tao attacks Enrage (Enrage attacks Rad, Rad attacks Tao)
    Tao attacks Enrage repeatedly continues weekly to today

    Point: we don't care who's stronger of those under 1st, fighting for the number 1 spot is the fight that matters, all a fight between Tao and rad would show is who is closer to that number 1 spot which would at the very least prove detrimental to one of the two guilds if not both.
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Everyone except Tao is curious if Rad can topple the very same faction that was week in and week out taking their lands until we forced them to attack us.

    Tao is simply scared they will lose 2 lands rather than 1 each week.

    Total lands of Rad's taken by Tao 6
    Total lands of Rad's taken by Enrage 9
    Total lands of Rad's taken by Caesar 4
    Total lands of Rad's taken by Triad 6

    By your logic Sgt, Rad would continue attacking Enrage, actually, Enrage took land from them most recently.
    The most recent conflict between Tao and Radiance was due to Aubrey's leadership of Radiance and her decisions while in that position whether they were supported by the general populace of Radiance or not.
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  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you And I Both Know That You've Played This Game Long Enough To Know That Proving Dominance One Week Does Not Prove Dominance The Next Week And All That Rad/tao Attacking Each Other Would Create Is Another Battlefront On Which Neither Benefits. "lets Fight Each Other For The Number 2 Spot!" Translation, Lets Prove We're Not Out To Be The Best But That We're Out To Prevent Others From Surpassing The Best.

    History Lesson On Tao's Attacks
    Rad
    Rad
    Enrage
    Enrage
    Triad
    Triad
    Enrage
    Enrage
    Rad
    Enrage For About 4-5 Months With 3 Caesar Attacks In The Mix
    Rawthorne Joins Tao, States Rad Is Intending To Attack 1k
    Rad Marshall Confirms Statement As Truth
    Tao Attacks Rad Land Neighboring 1k
    Tao Attacks Other Rad Land Neighboring 1k
    I Pm Aubrey (rad Leader At That Time): We Don't Care About Your Other Lands Bordering Us, But The Immediate Threat To 1k Was No Longer Tolerable With Information Being Leaked From Your Guild, Stop Attacking Us And We'll Leave You Be.
    Tao Attacks Enrage (rad Attacks Tao)
    Tao Attacks Rad
    I Pm Aubrey: Statement Stands, If You Do Not Attack Tao, Tao Will Not Attack You
    Tao Attacks Enrage (rad Attacks Tao)
    Tao Attacks Enrage (enrage Attacks Rad, Rad Attacks Tao)
    Tao Attacks Enrage Repeatedly Continues Weekly To Today

    Point: We Don't Care Who's Stronger Of Those Under 1st, Fighting For The Number 1 Spot Is The Fight That Matters, All A Fight Between Tao And Rad Would Show Is Who Is Closer To That Number 1 Spot Which Would At The Very Least Prove Detrimental To One Of The Two Guilds If Not Both.



    Total Lands Of Rad's Taken By Tao 6
    Total Lands Of Rad's Taken By Enrage 9
    Total Lands Of Rad's Taken By Caesar 4
    Total Lands Of Rad's Taken By Triad 6

    By Your Logic Sgt, Rad Would Continue Attacking Enrage, Actually, Enrage Took Land From Them Most Recently.
    The Most Recent Conflict Between Tao And Radiance Was Due To Aubrey's Leadership Of Radiance And Her Decisions While In That Position Whether They Were Supported By The General Populace Of Radiance Or Not.

    ..................... Tl;dr
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    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

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  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ..................... Tl;dr

    tl:dr
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Stuff.

    I don't agree with your statement. You work your way up. As proven before on HT: If people can't beat you, they will join you.
    If Tao would successfully dominate Radiance or the other way around more people from Tao will go to Radiance or from Radiance to Tao, thus making it easier to eventually (if ever) top the #1 which at the moment is Enrage.
    In my opinion, Tao not attacking Radiance and vice versa is just fear from both sides to be eliminated off of the map. Because you KNOW that if any of the two factions would show obvious dominance over the other one. They will keep attacking till they own most of their lands, which will make them grow stronger and stand a better chance against the stronger/strongest faction.

    As it stands, the "mutual understanding" is more of a "Let's wait till they do it first" kind of thing, 'cause I'm pretty sure both you and the leader of Radiance have considered wiping each other off of the map. Both are just if I may say too "afraid" to do so b:chuckle

    But hey, no one cares about what I say.
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  • Andromaka - Heavens Tear
    Andromaka - Heavens Tear Posts: 925 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I agree with that ^ b:chuckle
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  • Hari - Heavens Tear
    Hari - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    No, I don't speak for tao when I say this... but as of right now I'm the 8th person on the guild list, and I was in tao within like the first week it was made. I'm fairly active, so I think I can confidently say that we don't actually care if we're stronger than Rad. We just want to keep fighting enrage, because they're the greatest challenge and therefore the funnest to TW against. This past weekend with the 2+ hour fight was a blast, atleast for me...

    Although, for those who are curious, the fact that enrage pulls out of rad so that they can defend vs us speaks for itself IMO...

    If Enrage really wants rad and tao to attack each other, don't bid on either of us, bid on belial, or don't bid at all; do that and it'll probably happen. If you expect us to give up bidding on you for a week, I don't see why you shouldn't do the same.
    HT clerics at their finest:

    hari: can you do mdef debuffs? makes the fight go faster
    naughty_x: waste, I do more damage without them
    hari: ...you do more damage in 2 seconds than reducing mdef by 35% for 4 casters does in 20 seconds?
    naughty_x: is waste, i do more damage

    hari: 3-3 BH goes a lot faster with a sin
    naughty_x: no, only a difference of like 3 minutes
    hari: ...we've been in here a lot longer than 3 minutes already
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  • Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear
    Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    seems everyone wants something different for whatever benefit. personally, i just wamt some freakin fun for my faction.
  • Demaulicus - Heavens Tear
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, I don't speak for tao when I say this... but as of right now I'm the 8th person on the guild list, and I was in tao within like the first week it was made. I'm fairly active, so I think I can confidently say that we don't actually care if we're stronger than Rad. We just want to keep fighting enrage, because they're the greatest challenge and therefore the funnest to TW against. This past weekend with the 2+ hour fight was a blast, atleast for me...

    Although, for those who are curious, the fact that enrage pulls out of rad so that they can defend vs us speaks for itself IMO...

    If Enrage really wants rad and tao to attack each other, don't bid on either of us, bid on belial, or don't bid at all; do that and it'll probably happen. If you expect us to give up bidding on you for a week, I don't see why you shouldn't do the same.

    Sorry but your guild leader already stated the fear in having the one weekend where Tao and Radiance fight each other. Also, Freeing Belial would make things worse for Tao as they have an issue with your guild. Basically the server won't see a Tao vs Radiance fight anytime soon. Just a heads up though is I have a very good hunch where Tao and Radiance will bid this week. I proved my point with this thread by the way and the server knows why Tao and Radiance won't fight each other. Tao can't beat Enrage 1vs1 so Tao made Radiance their lapdog at bidding time so they could have a chance at atleast 1 of the two beating Enrage. This proves that Tao and Radiance are allies in TW.
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  • Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear
    Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Tao made Radiance their lapdog




    why wasnt i informed of this until now b:angry
  • Demaulicus - Heavens Tear
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    why wasnt i informed of this until now b:angry

    Cause Tao is like a politician and they only do what benefits them not what the server wants to see. Meh, I don't care cause like I said I won't be playing after a month. However, Someone else will ask this question later on. Basically Tao doesn't like when people ruin their plan for map dominance. Tao is another version of the old Radiance. Old school Radiance got TheEmpire and Evolution to attack RoC along with them so it would make things easier for them. Now history is repeating itself where Tao is working hard to get other guilds to bid against Enrage for their own benefit. However, Things aren't working exactly how Tao wants but they are happy cause for now Enrage is staying at even land each week. What will Tao do once Tao's plan fails and Enrage ends up being able to fully defend the gank? That stuff only works for so long until a solution is reached.
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Urbanpulse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    why wasnt i informed of this until now b:angry

    Don't worry urban, nobody told me either... You'd be kinda big for a lapdog anyhow.
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  • Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear
    Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Bale - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:mischievous i see what you did here dema, was a good effort tho...perhaps you should send and email to defected...your technique needs a bit of refinement b:kiss

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    better question, whens number1 gonna get taken down by everyone else? :D

    smarten up heavens tear enrage has been playing us this whole time lets take em out :D
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  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    bale.....i love you <3





    annyyywayyy



    better question, whens number1 gonna get taken down by everyone else? :D

    smarten up heavens tear enrage has been playing us this whole time lets take em out :D

    This is all i have to say to that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4
    "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

    "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
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  • Scarlettlady - Heavens Tear
    Scarlettlady - Heavens Tear Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is all i have to say to that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4

    All I have to say to you is...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNi9wqirCA&feature=related
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  • Miatemaro - Heavens Tear
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear Posts: 700 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    and i raise you both

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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This is all i have to say to that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4

    My phone's ringer! wooo! OMG Sgt made me smile...
    Scarlettlady - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    All I have to say to you is...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNi9wqirCA&feature=related
    b:kiss

    Song not snappy enough...
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    and i raise you both

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    Mia, remove your zoophilia from the forums.

    And to all 3 of you, *facepalm*
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    and i raise you both

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  • Miatemaro - Heavens Tear
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear Posts: 700 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My phone's ringer!

    Found your real phone ringer.

    http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Jazz+Horse/

    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:sad Oh god the metal scarring it won't.........go ................away.............

    maybe this will help you pressa.

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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Found your real phone ringer.

    http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Jazz+Horse/




    maybe this will help you pressa.

    http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Tiny+Japanese+Girl/

    b:worried I can still see horse soda although this one isn't as bad its still a little lame.
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  • Andromaka - Heavens Tear
    Andromaka - Heavens Tear Posts: 925 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    TW qq and drama is much more fun then this video exchange thingy ... can we please get back on topic? b:cute
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  • Asmodiel - Heavens Tear
    Asmodiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,442 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    TW qq and drama is much more fun then this video exchange thingy ... can we please get back on topic? b:cute

    After each weekend the hot 'QQ' news arrives sooo be patient some moreeeee :p b:chuckle
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    TW qq and drama is much more fun then this video exchange thingy ... can we please get back on topic? b:cute

    *Throws insults at Tao, Enrage, Rad, Belial, Caesar, TE, etc etc*


    Agreed, more qq fresh and to go plz.
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  • Bauku - Heavens Tear
    Bauku - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    all this tough talk......b:surrender

    Enrage should just not show up one weekend to ANY TW. I bet we will see alot of speculation and chest pounding from Tao about how dominant they are now.

    2 hour 45 minute long fight last weekend.....Tao's top 80 against Enrages scrub 60. keep on dreaming of dominance.....not gonna happen anytime soon.
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I really love threads like this... All the drama, strategies and such. Personally, I'm a Rad/Tao fan. I used to be in Rad, never really had any issues w/ any members, and I love their ideology of how a faction should be, and is. Tao has the same ideology in my opinion, where as Enrage is a free for all faction - there are rules, but the general "Be nice to everyone" rule isn't there.

    Yes, I'm a care-bear, and don't PK to often. However, I have a lot of TW experience and know how stuff like this goes down :).
  • Scarlettlady - Heavens Tear
    Scarlettlady - Heavens Tear Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Song not snappy enough...

    Uhm, thats the point... it's a slowed down rick roll. b:shutup Good play though, good play.
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  • Demaulicus - Heavens Tear
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Alright everyone back on subject. For people who just started viewing this thread here is a recap:

    1) Question imposed on Tao and Radiance from me for the server's curiosity (including myself)
    2) People tried bashing the OP for imposing the question so the OP responded
    3) Bash attempts didn't work so they tried to defame the OP
    4) Proved that there is atleast too much fear within Tao (Can't say about Radiance yet but Monoftalmus atleast has too much fear due to his thread)

    As a result watch for Tao to bid on Etherblade and Radiance to bid on Walled Stronghold this week.

    Nah, This was a coincidence and wasn't planned at all /sarcasm

    On a serious note though is that Tao and Radiance were too obvious for it not to be a planned gank on Enrage. Come on now... How do you get lucky enough to have the same time slot week after week if it's not planned?
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  • Zyfou - Heavens Tear
    Zyfou - Heavens Tear Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    On a serious note though is that Tao and Radiance were too obvious for it not to be a planned gank on Enrage. Come on now... How do you get lucky enough to have the same time slot week after week if it's not planned?

    I'm starting to think you don't know what you're talking about. In the last 3 weeks at least Radiance and Tao has only shared 1 time slot with each other.

    TW Schedule 4/23-25

    TW Schedule 4/16-18

    TW Schedule 4/9-11

    Prior to this weeks results, Rad and Tao weren't able to bid on each other. Who was the only faction either of them could attack? Enrage. It's been that way for months now.

    'Tis a stretch to label it "planning and plotting".
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  • Demaulicus - Heavens Tear
    Demaulicus - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Zyfou - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm starting to think you don't know what you're talking about. In the last 3 weeks at least Radiance and Tao has only shared 1 time slot with each other.

    TW Schedule 4/23-25

    TW Schedule 4/16-18

    TW Schedule 4/9-11

    Prior to this weeks results, Rad and Tao weren't able to bid on each other. Who was the only faction either of them could attack? Enrage. It's been that way for months now.

    'Tis a stretch to label it "planning and plotting".

    You missed what I was saying. Let me rephrase what I said so you might comprehend it better. Tao and Radiance bid near each other to improve their chances on having a gank can't on Enrage cause neither stand a chance 1vs1. Regardless of how much land Enrage may lose to them due to the gank won't cause Enrage to fall from the #1 spot. Also, 1 of those weeks wasn't a gank due to other guilds being involved. Had they not then it would have been a Tao/Radiance vs Enrage. The other week was due to Radiance having to claim one of their lands back from Belial. Again if neither of these took place then there would have been more Tao/Radiance vs Enrage ganks. If they weren't aiming for a gank then Tao wouldn't bid on Enrage near Radiance.

    Try saying that planning/plotting must repeat itself over a long period of time to a judge after attempting to rob someone's house. I bet you'll be convicted and laughed at.

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  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Either way, to whom it may concern.....

    The B lane, Go big or go home.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCTyEmvvZJo

    I'll be waiting.

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    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

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