Uncharmed?

If you need a charm while tanking you need to find a better cleric. Only time its really needed is rebirth, pvp and TW.

Trust me barbs dont need charm unless u do gama, pvp or tw b:laugh
even fcc is very do able without charm :P
If u use a charm for anything other than the 3 things mentioned above u r just wasting ur money cause first off hp charm do not last a barb too long due to their huge hp pool and secondly u just lose all the fun in playin the game if u have a barb charmed for doin normal thingsb:shocked
i have seen too many cash shop barbs just get destroyed while tanking without a charm causes they dont know to use their skills to keep their hp up because they were too dependent on charms lol
Using Charm is for normal quest and tanking r for barbs who r not skilled enough to play their char
Skilled barb dont use charm b:laugh

Feral_Wrath - Lost City wrote: »

If you need a charm while tanking you need to find a better cleric.

Yep.

on my barb lets see....tanked my own fb69. tanked krimson at 73 and no charms for me....really helps to know good clerics.

using sunder to keep up hp is a mana drain but at 59 i got a nature's breath necklace (+7 mana regen) my calas tend to kill me too fast on normal grinding so i still have to med every 15-20 mobs but with a weapon without zerk that necklace and sunder should keep both bars up pretty well. (just dont use sunder on every cooldown only after ur hp is down abt 2k.

as was said making a habit of not using charms makes what could be a really bad situation much easier because you will know better what to do.

Kinda off OP's topic but

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

...Problem is I need runs fast to get to 90 --> Have to do some runs with not too skilled squads...

Running frost with unskilled squads is not a good idea simply to push up your level. This will perpetuate the cycle and soon a majority of the 9x+ will be as useless as they were are 2x. Fuzzy sees this happening daily on his server.

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

...I tend to avoid TTs/Pole/Krimson/etc while charmed(easy w/o, but tend to tick charm few times).

Fuzzy a little confused by that statement.. how can it be easier without than with if it ticks when you have one? And why avoid Pole or Krim or nearly anything for that fact at lvl88? There isn't much of anything you shouldn't be able to tank at that point with or without a charm... unless all the 8x+ clerics on Arch server fumbled their way through a pile of ff's as well at the expense of all else...

Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide wrote: »

Kinda off OP's topic but



Running frost with unskilled squads is not a good idea simply to push up your level. This will perpetuate the cycle and soon a majority of the 9x+ will be as useless as they were are 2x. Fuzzy sees this happening daily on his server.



Fuzzy a little confused by that statement.. how can it be easier without than with if it ticks when you have one? And why avoid Pole or Krim or nearly anything for that fact at lvl88? There isn't much of anything you shouldn't be able to tank at that point with or without a charm... unless all the 8x+ clerics on Arch server fumbled their way through a pile of ff's as well at the expense of all else...

If you don`t run with ppl, who are noobs, those noobs never learn it the proper way. For those runs I want charm, even if I`m ready to take noobs, I`m not ready to die for it. Sure I have charm left on other runs as well as I can`t take it off, but charm ticks so rarely on those that it doesn`t matter.

And what comes to avoiding Pole/etc, I just don`t want to tick my charm, plain simple. It`s just pointless to burn charm on those situations, when you can do those easy while uncharmed, that`s why I avoid those while charmed. Sure I could run around and do those charmed, but in the end I can burn charms to do them or not, there shouldn`t be a question which I prefer.

XylolyX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I stopped wearing a charm at 90. I let my clerics know that I'm uncharmed and to not worry about charm ticks, just keep me alive and I'll keep them alive. (Seems to work with most clerics.)

I like running uncharmed, it's cheaper and somehow feels more liberating. I refuse, however, to give up my MP charm. They pay for themselves within a week, IMO.

I'm the same way. Actually whenever theres a quest reward that is either MP or HP charm - I choose MP charm. I've only ever had 3 HP charms.

1. Used for RB Gamma (bronze HP charm - we were all inexperienced and the DD's were NOT MP charmed, so we failed)
2. Tidal Protection from expansion quest (still wearing). Half of the 1.2 Million HP charm got eaten up in what wasn't even a full FC run. Basically when the cleric notices you're wearing a charm, they decide they don't need to heal you anymore. Oh.. and the reason the charm got ate up so much is because people AoE'd on that boss that spawns hands, and they all died except for me. I solod the boss basically since it wasn't gonna get through my charm.
3. Quest reward HP charm I saved and used when tanking several bosses in one run. Only ticked on Krimson (which I tanked at quest level) But methinks the cleric wasn't purifying in time, since when I tank Krimson now with my sister as cleric - my HP doesnt move (same as on Pole).

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

Depends which instance you're going to tank.

If you're inexp in rb, you will need that charm. Later you can be fine without it. In other instances a lot depends on yourself & the clerics... With some... You'll just die all the time even with apos+skills+pots & charms ._.

Or if your cleric gets distracted by something she'll let your life get down to 400hp (out of 15K) and then QQ about the MP cost of healing you. b:laugh

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:cool She's making business. Either pay up or die

I give away mp pots before I enter an instance, if I'm with any uncharmed heavy mana users. (At least on my barb I do.) Usually it's 50 of the 5K mps to the cleric. It's a "pay it forward" kind of thing when i'm tanking. As I told someone last night...I like clerics, they keep me alive!

XylolyX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I give away mp pots before I enter an instance, if I'm with any uncharmed heavy mana users. (At least on my barb I do.) Usually it's 50 of the 5K mps to the cleric. It's a "pay it forward" kind of thing when i'm tanking. As I told someone last night...I like clerics, they keep me alive!

b:embarrass WTF I'm moving to HT, they pay clerics there b:shocked

As barb, I barely used a charm. I use powders or genie which is quite enough. HP Charms are for extreme situations. I am fine with even a wizard and or cleric healing or my own powders + genie skill mix, depending on situation.

Sage Feral Regen is nice as well...adds an extra 25HP/sec recovery.

Sgt - Raging Tide wrote: »

Wait, what genie and what skill do I use?

Kingtank is right, tree of protection. Also there is second wind too, for earlier on.