BladeMasters bad in PVP?

newplayerhere · December 2009

I am new here, i am playing in Lost City server. I am a Axe BladeMaster. I just wanted know if we are good at PVP at 90+ levels (End Game). I specially want to know how can they deal with magic attackers. I would like to know the opinions of not only other classes but specially strong very high level BMs (would love a good argument between all of you b:chuckle). Is BM worth playing? Tips and Tricks would help. Most other classes claim that BMs are bad in PVP. Thats why i am desperatly asking for answers.

DeityofRain_ - Harshlands · December 2009

only thing bm got going is their stun

close range melee don't really shine. to much chasingb:surrenderb:chuckle

Malley - Lost City · December 2009

BM is a hit or miss in pvp with axe you can do your stun locks so thats a plus but it only matters if you can get in close before
a cleric puts you to sleep
a wizards one shots you
a veno sends her pet in and shoots you
archer zaps twice

and getting a hit in before any of that happens can be really hard to do, even if you sneak up on them sometimes
but like I said its a hit or miss, some people are great at it, some are decent and most suck.

"btw ima lvl 63 sword/pole bm an im rerolling just becuase I dont like the moves anymore, not sure if im going tideborn"

Ursa - Dreamweaver · December 2009

a well played endgame fist BM is probably the second best PK class in the game.
But one needs to master the technique of sneaking on PPL.

E.g: Endgame Axe BM vs Rank8 heavy refined archer = 45 minutes of charm ****.
BM gets bored, switches to fists and archer drops in 20 seconds. 5 hits/second is not to be underestimated (mix of LA and HA TT100 armor for - interval bonus). But for that, u need to get up close and personal. Against an archer/barb/cleric/veno that works, against a wizzard is much harder and a rank8 heavy refined wizard will just 1 shot a BM with a double sparked ulti 50% of the time. Problem with wizz is that has both phys and mag ultis, so dependind on the marrow tactic can be changed to max the dmg.

Joshcja - Sanctuary · December 2009

at endgame a all weapon bm with good refines and -int will be quite good

if you pure axe and a vit build your screwd gimped and are little more than an annoyance to every other class

dont do it i really get sick of that build it dosent work 99% of the time (1% being rebirth)

multipath or make a barb

XFeRX - Harshlands · December 2009

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

a well played endgame fist BM is probably the second best PK class in the game.
But one needs to master the technique of sneaking on PPL.

E.g: Endgame Axe BM vs Rank8 heavy refined archer = 45 minutes of charm ****.
BM gets bored, switches to fists and archer drops in 20 seconds. 5 hits/second is not to be underestimated (mix of LA and HA TT100 armor for - interval bonus). But for that, u need to get up close and personal. Against an archer/barb/cleric/veno that works, against a wizzard is much harder and a rank8 heavy refined wizard will just 1 shot a BM with a double sparked ulti 50% of the time. Problem with wizz is that has both phys and mag ultis, so dependind on the marrow tactic can be changed to max the dmg.

LOL are you a moron? b:lipcurl

Kristoph - Lost City · December 2009

BMs have the best survivability in 1v1 pvp in the game and good for team play as well. Can DD well with fists and support well with axes.

MagicHamsta - Lost City · December 2009

newplayerhere go find Kniraven and beg him to teach you or something.
b:chuckle

DrkLordZ - Sanctuary · December 2009

first, max all your stuns, hopefully they will not use anti-stun, so you can get them in an awesome stun lock. stun lock = 90% to win. that 10% will be all your misses considering axe bms have bad accuracy.

Transcend - Lost City · December 2009

I enjoy killing BM's in PVP

Quilue - Sanctuary · December 2009

if you only stick with axe, you're going to have to suffer the disadvantages of axe.

i think in order for bms to be effective pkers, they have to be able to use multiple weapons. you can combine different paths and chain their heaviest hitting attacks for a lot of damage. being able to stun with axe then switch to spear makes a bm a lot scarier, for example. farstrike hits so hard if you never go spear you're missing out - especially sage farstrike

Wulfkin - Harshlands · December 2009

Honestly it is about skill. I am only lvl 52 but from my experiance. Bms are an easy kill. All I have to do is stun them with mighty swing, garrotte(bleed skill) chain some attakcs and repeat. My friend though is a pooleblade build and I have a hard time getting him much past half HP. You are going to have alot of trouble if you pick BM but it comes down to skill and equips.

Gasoline - Lost City · December 2009

What Quilue said. You need to use multiple weapons to benefit from all the BMs ulti skills, to be badass endgame. Also Bms using fists is by far the scariest dmg-wise i ever seen lol. Ive seen fist Bms drop vita build barbs easy. If you just use axe you will be pretty nerfed tho.

Phy attacks are kinda weak endgame generally compared to magic anyhow, so Bms cant afford to have much vita either - unless you only wanna play support and stun + dragon in pvp only.

Lyonna_S - Sanctuary · January 2010

not really o.o

I saw some BM are good at it... maybe not as fast as the other class but they are not always bad, u can run with cloud sprint or the other version of it (but need chi I know) or Holypath chasing ur enemy. (Except wizzy/archer..i understand they are cool at it) and cleric sleep will gone once u got attacked... so there is a chance for BM to stun and kill cleric with their stun...(it's hard...I've tried it)

but well...I think the answer is..."Depend on the player"

DrkLordZ - Sanctuary · January 2010

Transcend - Lost City wrote: »

I enjoy killing BM's in PVP

You kited like hell against that 10x bm with +12 zerk zxes in your last video lol.

Lucifer - Dreamweaver · March 2010

from personal experience, i dont have TOO much of a problem with Mages/Archers and i am an axe build (with 2 mistys btw) basically with mages u need alter marrow magical(unless cleric with plume shot) and get Cloud sprint maxed so u get the other one (forgot what its called even tho i have it XD) at the cost of 1 spark u get 100% evasion, and immunity to stuns, so do that twords ur target, hit em with a slow down hit like Oceans edge or Fissure. But ur gonna get killed by mages and archers if they spot u first and u dont know how to react when they hit u, plus there is many genie skils that can work to your advantage and give u the edge against a mage/archer and even can 1 shoot some of them

so no i will have to say that a BM is NOT the worst class for pvp or anything

_Whisper_ - Raging Tide · March 2010

well its not good at endgame, thats for sure. Tanking wise they are hardcore...Stuns get very annoying. But when it comes 2 heavy refines and endgame gear, All i can say is you better be pro or your going nowhere

Divine_Death - Dreamweaver · March 2010

Necro b:sweat

Yougotmurked - Lost City · March 2010

are bms bad in pvp? to even ask such a question u should be slapped! come to lost city ill do the honors. b:thanks

Infliction - Raging Tide · March 2010

Playing a BM is a really fun class, if you build it right, you can be insanely good. Its also not hard to mess up a bm and fail in pvp.

HeavensWing - Sanctuary · March 2010

Its a fun class if you build it right, 1v1 we own. The last time I lost in a 1v1 was when it was ANOTHER BM. And ofcourse those killer Barbs with HP >.>
Axe + Pole = Pwnage
And, its not much of a difference. Just more dex, which can be good for you in that accuracy.

FateBlade - Lost City · April 2010

Well, I'm playing with BM almost 3 years, but EA and Veno is stronger than BM. Well, if EA have bad gear, he's weak, but hard to kill when EA have +10 gear, +12 bow. Only BM Fister can do something, but for fister need to get good gear.

JamesJutsu - Dreamweaver · April 2010

BM = BowMasta...

Don't **** with demon sparked bows on a BM.

but no really, best build is str dex. for PVP. cleric/sins are easy to kill if you use Will of the Bod...barbs you need to demon spark and use fists (and hope to god they dont invoke)
veno(if the have nix) stun the fxcking nix..and kill the veno...
archers...to be honest..sometimes its better with bow..but if you know how to stun lock..you can pwn with axe..
wizzies..yeah just make sure they don't 1 shot you.

Dakaruch - Lost City · April 2010

Bms are pretty good end-game pk class IF you get fists. Don't really need to use all weapons and max all skills. Not to mention that's just ****ing expensive in terms of sp and coins, and kinda not doable till 9x, fists at 100+, with hh99 armor and using cv claws or hh100 fists with decent refine, with -interval gears (and actually this works better if you're demon bm for the spark as you won't need to get as many int gears to get the 5 attacks/second compared to sage), you'll be able to kill most classes... Will have hard time killing barbs with 30k HP, and mages with lvl 11 earth barrier. But other then that, pretty much everyone else dies fast, even other bms.

PS: Wtf is wrong with my avatar thingy saying i'm 99, fix it gms! D=

FateBlade - Lost City · April 2010

Dakaruch - Lost City wrote: »

Bms are pretty good end-game pk class IF you get fists. Don't really need to use all weapons and max all skills. Not to mention that's just ****ing expensive in terms of sp and coins, and kinda not doable till 9x, fists at 100+, with hh99 armor and using cv claws or hh100 fists with decent refine, with -interval gears (and actually this works better if you're demon bm for the spark as you won't need to get as many int gears to get the 5 attacks/second compared to sage), you'll be able to kill most classes... Will have hard time killing barbs with 30k HP, and mages with lvl 11 earth barrier. But other then that, pretty much everyone else dies fast, even other bms.

PS: Wtf is wrong with my avatar thingy saying i'm 99, fix it gms! D=

G'luck to spend real money. Without real money you can't get good gear. No money - No fun.

Nakhimov - Lost City · April 2010

FateBlade - Lost City wrote: »

Well, I'm playing with BM almost 3 years, but EA and Veno is stronger than BM. Well, if EA have bad gear, he's weak, but hard to kill when EA have +10 gear, +12 bow. Only BM Fister can do something, but for fister need to get good gear.

Quit necroing threads you twit.

Brotherhood - Harshlands · April 2010

bms should multipath 2 be really effective. if ur goin axe i recomend multipathing with fists cause that path gives u dps and accuracy which are 2 things an axe bms lacks. and if u wanna pvp with arcane the bets path would be fists cause of how they cna interrupt channeling

Devil_Vergil - Lost City · April 2010

nope...BMs are the shiit in PvP

_makina_ - Sanctuary · April 2010

Devil_Vergil - Lost City wrote: »

nope...BMs are the shiit in PvP

Yep,

1. Heavens Flame
2. Bramble Rage (broken genie skill)
3. Profit!!!!!
4. ??????????

Jittery - Lost City · April 2010

ive seen some pretty amazing players of all classes in amazing gear. But out of all of them, the ONE CLASS i simply cannot tank dmg and have to kite like mad is a endgame demon fist BM. Its not cheap to be a good fist BM. But, if you do manage to get 5 attacks a second you can kill anyone in the game. there is no person that can tank a cash shop geared fist BM with 5 attacks a second. go find NYKage or Zerhee in Lost City and they will show you exactly what i mean.....and ya, so what they are melee and have to get in close and personall. dosent matter when you have well over 10k m/p def and over 15000 hp. Out of any CS class in the game fist BMs are the most deadly in mu opinion. I can tank a couple hits from a jun8 +12 archer and kite to sz. I can pvp pot and absolute domain against wizzy. but if a fist BM comes and uses all his stun locking skills on you and triples you will die and its so much dmg its not even recorded in the dmg log.

FateBlade - Lost City · April 2010

Jittery - Lost City wrote: »

ive seen some pretty amazing players of all classes in amazing gear. But out of all of them, the ONE CLASS i simply cannot tank dmg and have to kite like mad is a endgame demon fist BM. Its not cheap to be a good fist BM. But, if you do manage to get 5 attacks a second you can kill anyone in the game. there is no person that can tank a cash shop geared fist BM with 5 attacks a second. go find NYKage or Zerhee in Lost City and they will show you exactly what i mean.....and ya, so what they are melee and have to get in close and personall. dosent matter when you have well over 10k m/p def and over 15000 hp. Out of any CS class in the game fist BMs are the most deadly in mu opinion. I can tank a couple hits from a jun8 +12 archer and kite to sz. I can pvp pot and absolute domain against wizzy. but if a fist BM comes and uses all his stun locking skills on you and triples you will die and its so much dmg its not even recorded in the dmg log.

I agree with you. Demon Fister (+10/+12 gear) are devils. I'm sage, so I can't be a fister. So I'm using Blade. It's fast too and not bad hits. I have all weapon's mastery, but my main is Blade. So I can fight only non cash-shopers, becouse my gear is cheap.

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