PWI must do someone the whole "red map"

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2010

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

While WINTER is one ugly **** looking veno, I think she still has hair. Maybe lots of back hair? I dunno. Either way you're winter, can't hide that b:chuckle

i would never have guessed until his dissing started

there was only 2 non-english speakers that were this verbal in the last past year including WINTER himself b:chuckle

Midaehros - Sanctuary · March 2010

oyamajio wrote: »

Title should be "PWI must do something about the whole "red map." GMs, There must be something you can do about this whole TW monopoly for months, where coins go into the pockets of a small group of people!!! These coins stockers may just sell their overloaded coins for real $ - then we have a scenario where u PWI create the game for a few people to make a living. If they don't sell for real $, at a certain points they can turn the economy upside down as they please. With the coins they don't even need to spend a single real $ on this game which hurt u, yes ur company PWI.

Sorry the GM's wont help you there. The players of Sanctuary must do that themselves. Grow a pair, work together, and don't let One guild ruin the fun for everyone else.

RISE UP UNDERDOGS, UNITE AND FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!b:victory

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2010

Midaehros - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sorry the GM's wont help you there. The players of Sanctuary must do that themselves. Grow a pair, work together, and don't let One guild ruin the fun for everyone else.

RISE UP UNDERDOGS, UNITE AND FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!b:victory

oh he knows, hes a high lvl as you can assume from this alts past posts on endgame related threads and refines/gear. WINTER is just QQing for the hell of it on his alt. his main is actually IN the topic faction hes QQing about lol............but.............we assume you know that already

LloydAsplund - Sanctuary · March 2010

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

:O oh hai WINTER ^^

Speaking of doing something with the whole red map... Hax.

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv50/dan_912/PWI/lolmap.jpg

Original pic I had.. lol, Regi is the white color from December 08

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=ydhfmamuinj&thumb=4

I can has name half those factions. I see shockwave, legendary, EPIC, outlaw, the pinkish faction with the two caps last letters, soviet, amplified, nefarious. I had the exact same TW map on my hardrive before I changed to windows 7. Didnt save screenshots. QQQ

oyamajio · March 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

i would never have guessed until his dissing started there was only 2 non-english speakers that were this verbal in the last past year including WINTER himself b:chuckle

Ah well I still have a little more time to enjoy this. Are u trying to raise racism here? Because that sounds exactly what u'r trying to do lol This game is purely based on Chinese mythology. U've been enjoying Chinese culture the whole time. That raise another question. Are u that Chinese coming out of a closet at a time and putting ur mask acting as a native speaker while u sound more Vietnamese, African....?b:surrender

TheDan - Sanctuary · March 2010

LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »

I can has name half those factions. I see shockwave, legendary, EPIC, outlaw, the pinkish faction with the two caps last letters, soviet, amplified, nefarious. I had the exact same TW map on my hardrive before I changed to windows 7. Didnt save screenshots. QQQ

Lol, I made this if it helps P:

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv50/dan_912/TWMap12-19-2008.jpg

SarahC - Sanctuary · March 2010

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lol, I made this if it helps P:

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv50/dan_912/TWMap12-19-2008.jpg

epic fail on some of those color matches

but look whos posting..b:kiss

Strife_son - Sanctuary · March 2010

oyamajio wrote: »

Ah well I still have a little more time to enjoy this. Are u trying to raise racism here? Because that sounds exactly what u'r trying to do lol This game is purely based on Chinese mythology. U've been enjoying Chinese culture the whole time. That raise another question. Are u that Chinese coming out of a closet at a time and putting ur mask acting as a native speaker while u sound more Vietnamese, African....?b:surrender

LOLUMAD?

/10char

Legerity - Sanctuary · March 2010

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

The problem is that it is too easy for the most powerful faction to hold the whole map. The issue is that no matter how many factions attacks, the most that is ever needed to be defended is only 3 at a time.

It doesn't matter if there are 5 guilds attacking or 50, an attack is only as strong as the strongest triple attack. If you can defend against that there is nothing to stop endless growth. It basically is just as easy to defend 50 lands as it is to defend 3 lands.

The best change that could be made would be to increase the 3 attackers at a time limit or better yet remove it all together.

That would naturally make holding more and more territory increasingly difficult (as it should be). While the best guilds would hold the most land, it would be very hard to hold the whole map without being truly extraordinary.

As it is the small guilds that don't have much chance are actively discouraged from attacking so as to not disrupt the one triple attack that has a chance.

I'm very certain there is more than 3 slots per time slot. It was mentioned in one of the LC threads when CQ decided to give up their map control. The following week, the entire server decided to take a piece of the map and that ended up in more than 3 simultaneous attacks in a time slot.

However I am unsure on how many bids are needed to be placed. I am going to assume you need to fill up both time slot A and B on the same day before a 4th gets a chance to surface in slot A.

TheDan - Sanctuary · March 2010

Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm very certain there is more than 3 slots per time slot. It was mentioned in one of the LC threads when CQ decided to give up their map control. The following week, the entire server decided to take a piece of the map and that ended up in more than 3 simultaneous attacks in a time slot.

However I am unsure on how many bids are needed to be placed. I am going to assume you need to fill up both time slot A and B on the same day before a 4th gets a chance to surface in slot A.

It's possible to get 4 factions per slot...

But that's only after all 3 slots are filled for friday 8pm, saturday 9 am, 2pm, 8pm, and sunday 9am 2pm 8pm...

Only then can 4 factions slot in the same time.

Quilue - Sanctuary · March 2010

i agree

PWI must do someone the whole "red map"

Legerity - Sanctuary · March 2010

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's possible to get 4 factions per slot...

But that's only after all 3 slots are filled for friday 8pm, saturday 9 am, 2pm, 8pm, and sunday 9am 2pm 8pm...

Only then can 4 factions slot in the same time.

So that's 22 attacks to get a 4-way attack in the same time slot? b:chuckle

Xoria - Sanctuary · March 2010

Why not just buy a Stone of Intelligence out of the Boutique? b:laugh

Okay; there's several ways to take that statement, but in all honesty, it's not meant as a put down to anyone. One faction can take out Nefarious if you find as fantastic leader as Akasera (spelling? Been too long since I last saw the name). Quite honestly, I think we'd be looking at an orange map if Legendary was still being led by him.

Counter's Nefarious's battle tactics and back- up plans. As they say, "TW is not PK- teamwork is needed." Lol make your groups work together and demolish one another; be able to respond quickly should your crystal be under attack. Have quick reaction forces that can bounce to any location at any moment's notice. Why not throw Nefarious's plans back at them?

Four factions attacking at once? Why not just get something along the lines of three Regicides or three Enelysions? Quality over quantity. Another faction that can be taken down in six minutes won't really make a lick of difference in the end; three factions of near or equal par will have much more of an impact. That is the problem- Nefarious has never had a serious threat like that- not even now. There's still that third faction that needs to be able to not just get rolled in twenty minutes.

Only sixty- six Nefarious against a full eighty faction, both sides equally geared, equally skilled, and possibly at a disadvantage of lacking a third effective TW coordinator; the top dog faction will have a hard time. Especially if their pattern of lack- of- sign ups still holds true as it did in the past.

Yes, it's easier said than done, but let's face it- the GMs won't, or possibly, can't, step in and interfere. I think TW should be taken to the next level rather than be handed to some factions that will just get beaten by Nefarious the next week and it was all for naught.

TheDan - Sanctuary · March 2010

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why not just buy a Stone of Intelligence out of the Boutique? b:laugh

Okay; there's several ways to take that statement, but in all honesty, it's not meant as a put down to anyone. One faction can take out Nefarious if you find as fantastic leader as Akasera (spelling? Been too long since I last saw the name). Quite honestly, I think we'd be looking at an orange map if Legendary was still being led by him.

Counter's Nefarious's battle tactics and back- up plans. As they say, "TW is not PK- teamwork is needed." Lol make your groups work together and demolish one another; be able to respond quickly should your crystal be under attack. Have quick reaction forces that can bounce to any location at any moment's notice. Why not throw Nefarious's plans back at them?

Four factions attacking at once? Why not just get something along the lines of three Regicides or three Enelysions? Quality over quantity. Another faction that can be taken down in six minutes won't really make a lick of difference in the end; three factions of near or equal par will have much more of an impact. That is the problem- Nefarious has never had a serious threat like that- not even now. There's still that third faction that needs to be able to not just get rolled in twenty minutes.

Only sixty- six Nefarious against a full eighty faction, both sides equally geared, equally skilled, and possibly at a disadvantage of lacking a third effective TW coordinator; the top dog faction will have a hard time. Especially if their pattern of lack- of- sign ups still holds true as it did in the past.

Yes, it's easier said than done, but let's face it- the GMs won't, or possibly, can't, step in and interfere. I think TW should be taken to the next level rather than be handed to some factions that will just get beaten by Nefarious the next week and it was all for naught.

I couldn't agree more, though long-term determination, ambition, and effort is required to stay on top. For a long time, Legendary and Regicide had been at equal footing as Nefarious had been, resulting in many stalemates. Many times the server has had Nef on the ropes, a power struggle that I do not believe has burnt out just yet. The opposition has yet to reach it's full potential, the battle's just begun. See ya'll this weekend. b:victory

Telarith - Sanctuary · March 2010

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

i agree

PWI must do someone the whole "red map"

Would that someone be the Nef TW leader so they can't make it to the TW?

Quilue - Sanctuary · March 2010

b:shocked

if you put it that way, that sounds like a murderous version of "Somebody going to get a hurt real bad" but with more engrish

PWI MUST DO SOMEONE THE WHOLE RED MAP!

(someone...i'm not gonna say who. oh i think you may know him very well!)

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2010

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

There's still that third faction that needs to be able to not just get rolled in twenty minutes.

you mean the second and third :d only Regi and LG (the LG6months ago not the current one sadly) were able to withstand for more than 10min. In the last few months, regi has pretty much stood alone in this particular area

MistaBwanden - Sanctuary · March 2010

oyamajio wrote: »

Title should be "PWI must do something about the whole "red map." GMs, There must be something you can do about this whole TW monopoly for months, where coins go into the pockets of a small group of people!!! These coins stockers may just sell their overloaded coins for real $ - then we have a scenario where u PWI create the game for a few people to make a living. If they don't sell for real $, at a certain points they can turn the economy upside down as they please. With the coins they don't even need to spend a single real $ on this game which hurt u, yes ur company PWI.

GM's have stated before they will not do anything about it.
Personally, I love the fact that Nef can stay together and dominate most of the factions.

QQMOARPL0X

oyamajio · March 2010

MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »

GM's have stated before they will not do anything about it.
Personally, I love the fact that Nef can stay together and dominate most of the factions.

QQMOARPL0X

They won't do anything if they only listen to ur "hey, I love nef, so keep it that way". Who know? They may hear something they haven't thought of. So the whole "red-map" antagonists have something to say, say it.

Franciszek - Sanctuary · March 2010

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:shocked

if you put it that way, that sounds like a murderous version of "Somebody going to get a hurt real bad" but with more engrish

PWI MUST DO SOMEONE THE WHOLE RED MAP!

(someone...i'm not gonna say who. oh i think you may know him very well!)

Gm's cant take nef out of map cuz they re strong...
If u dont want map red then u need to fight with them for it...
If u arent enough stron then its ur problem .
They work hard for keep map red and it would be not fair to reset it cuz ur too newbie to beat them.
Nad post like "PWI MUST DO SOMETHING WITH THOLE RED MAP" rly doesnt help better stop talking and do something =]

oyamajio · March 2010

Franciszek - Sanctuary wrote: »

Gm's cant take nef out of map cuz they re strong...
If u dont want map red then u need to fight with them for it...
If u arent enough stron then its ur problem .
They work hard for keep map red and it would be not fair to reset it cuz ur too newbie to beat them.
Nad post like "PWI MUST DO SOMETHING WITH THOLE RED MAP" rly doesnt help better stop talking and do something =]

All you're saying are irrelevant and ignorant. There have been numerous battles. They lose for numerous reasons, but not for being newbies. Lots of newbies, like you, have been recruited into nef. The problems existed in the first place when they took advantage of being the first to make the move and as such managed to collect TW payouts to charge up for their gears. You can't expect most, if not everyone, to charge up thousands of $ like Wizzled to bring down nef, can u? Even if u've got 100 Wizzled, not all can work together and there's no way of 100% success guarantee, so it's unlikely anyone would do that. Everything comes down to thought before action. If u're that type of quiet guy, go hide in ur closet and stfu. If this whole ''red map'' continue to persist, it's no different from raising a regime of DICTATORSHIP.

Once in a while, reseting or doing something about it won't do any harms but gives other TW fans a chance to enjoy this game and not bow down to nef for the only reason- they have more coins than the rest.

_makina_ - Sanctuary · March 2010

Every server has 1 guild that is the dominant faction even on heavens tear where they stopped Radiance from taking over it was just replaced with Tao in TW terms not the actions of that guild. Lost city had Conqueror but they chose to let the map go and make another guild for the fun of TW but its turning out to be Kamisama vs Spectral vs Essence and one guild will eventually win out from those three. TW is awesome in the beginning of the server starting after that its about getting gear and ++++++++++++++++ to keep winning. Enjoy...... QQ

Franciszek - Sanctuary · March 2010

oyamajio wrote: »

All you're saying are irrelevant and ignorant. There have been numerous battles. They lose for numerous reasons, but not for being newbies. Lots of newbies, like you, have been recruited into nef. The problems existed in the first place when they took advantage of being the first to make the move and as such managed to collect TW payouts to charge up for their gears. You can't expect most, if not everyone, to charge up thousands of $ like Wizzled to bring down nef, can u? Even if u've got 100 Wizzled, not all can work together and there's no way of 100% success guarantee, so it's unlikely anyone would do that. Everything comes down to thought before action. If u're that type of quiet guy, go hide in ur closet and stfu. If this whole ''red map'' continue to persist, it's no different from raising a regime of DICTATORSHIP.

Once in a while, reseting or doing something about it won't do any harms but gives other TW fans a chance to enjoy this game and not bow down to nef for the only reason- they have more coins than the rest.

1 I didnt say factions like regi or ene are newbies cuz cant beat them...i said crying on forum cuz ure too low for nef doesnt help.
2 Im not in nef and i dont want to be .
3 Everyone can be like Wizzeled just need to work harder and dont need to spend RL cash on it.
4 Im not type of quiet guy and im not gonna to talking with rude ppl like you.
5 Nef have more coins cuz they worked hard for it ... what u will do if u play 2 years trying to be best at least getting it and someone is reseting map...
Nef is dominating but not for long just give other time to lvl up . There are alot of ppl still getting higher and nef is just 200ppl they can be beated.

Xoria - Sanctuary · March 2010

I think that's part of the problem- people think complaining to the GMs will just fix it. Even with a map reset, what will prevent Nefarious from taking it all over again? Probably nothing because while factions were given a new chance to gain land and cash, will that give them the incentive to level faster? Will it spur them on into getting better gear; will their attack plans other than going in and "attack everything" improve?

I highly doubt it; we'll be back to square- one. Besides, things are much better when you earn it and value it through effort rather than given something and have no appreciation for it.

Quilue - Sanctuary · March 2010

way to reply to joke post with serious business bro

Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary · March 2010

you want the map to change over a span of few weeks, check this

Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary wrote: »

Helpfull Recruiting LvL 90 + to take down Nef. Come Lets join Hands b:victory

VlLKASS - Sanctuary · March 2010

Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary wrote: »

you want the map to change over a span of few weeks, check this

*facepalms* Herne... b:embarrass

PWI must do someone the whole "red map"

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