Sage Demon Skills
Selador - Heavens Tear
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Original Thread Link:http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=651502
Translation by Ascii.
Note: This is unofficial, so take it with a grain of salt.
Translation by Ascii.
Note: This is unofficial, so take it with a grain of salt.
Psychic
Aqua Impact
Sage: Slow effect increased by 10%
Demon: 20% chance to reduce opponents attack level by 30 (unsure)
Black Voodoo
Sage: Attack level increased by an additional 3
Demon: Defence level reduced by 3
Torrent
Sage: Deals an additional 1200 water damage over 15 seconds
Demon: Effect reduced by 3 seconds.
Bubble of Life
Sage: Removes any Negative effects
Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
Aqua Cannon
Sage: 30% chance to immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
Demon: 50% chance for opponent to take an additional 4518.8 water damage over 6 seconds.
Glacial Shards
Sage: Immobilize effect increased by 2 seconds
Demon: 100% chance to immobilize target.
Empowered Vigor
Sage: Reduces charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
Demon: Healing Effects increased by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%
Disturb Soul
Sage: Effect extended by an additional 3 seconds
Demon: channelling reduce effect increased to 100%
Tide Spirit
Sage: Reduced channel effect increased by 3 seconds
Demon: Adds an additional 20% weapon damage for 15 seconds.
Red Tide
Sage: 50% chance to consume 1 spark only
Demon: Bleed effect increased to x1.2 of Soulforce.
Aqua Spirit
Sage: Additional 5% water damage
Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%
Earthen Spirit
Sage: Additional 5% Earth damage
Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%
Spirit Blast
Sage: 20% chance to deal 30% more damage (unsure)
Demon: Adds an Additional 361 damage
White Voodoo
Sage: Defence level increased by an additional 5
Demon: Channel Time Reduced by 3% (< O_o OP much?)
Landslide
Sage: Knockback distance extended by 3 metres
Demon: 30% Chance to inflict an additional 50% damage over 4seconds (unsure)
Sandburst Blast
Sage: Area Effect extended to 10 metres
Demon: 20% chance to reduce accuracy by an additional 20% for 8 seconds.
Diminished Vigor
Sage: Increases charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
Demon: Healing Effects reduced by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%
Soulburn
Sage: effect extended by 2 seconds.
Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
Earth Vector
Sage: 50% chance to not consume a spark
Demon: Range increased by 2 metres
Psychic Will
Sage: Effect extended by 2 seconds.
Demon: 20% chance to not consume Chi.
Soul of Vengeance
Sage: Will not reduce your Mana points
Demon: Damage reflected increased by 4% of Soulforce
Soul of Stunning
Sage: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
Demon: Stun time increased by 1 second
Soul of Silence
Sage: Seal Time increased to 5 Seconds
Demon: Chance to Seal increased.
Soul of Retaliation
Sage: Reduces the damage Taken to 0.65 of Soulforce
Demon: Reflect Damaged increased to 0.65 of Soulforce
Tide Form
Sage: Swimming speed increased by 20%
Demon: Additional 3 defence levels.
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I won't believe it until it comes here for real.0
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psychic will description is mixed up
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Sage: Effect extended by 2 seconds
Demon: 20% chance to not consume chi
and the above is unofficial news, not official announcement from china[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »psychic will description is mixed up
is
Sage: Effect extended by 2 seconds
Demon: 20% chance to not consume chi
and the above is unofficial news, not official announcement from china
Ok let me fix that. Thanks for pointing it out.0 -
This is the original post in wanmei:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D1523965%26extra%3Dpage%253D1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhg9oq-SIEdV01iZtOpFeLimnImpHw
It's a suggestion board to balance out the sage/demon skill for Tideborn hence it's not officially concluded.
But it give you an overview of wat to expect in future.
The final decision will be made at 25 March the soonest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Selador - Heavens Tear wrote: »Original Thread Link:http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=651502
Translation by Ascii.
Note: This is unofficial, so take it with a grain of salt.
Well hope this skill not true , cauze realy sux much, only 2 or 3 skill works b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
sux? wat are you talking about o.oa[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »sux? wat are you talking about o.oa
Sarcams b:byeSign hereb:bye
Remember when u want sonmething much in PWI less chance to get, so i do it the inverse.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I read it last night and was like "I'm so going demon". Now that I read it again...
sage psychics may very well be a good choice too. OMG, this is gonna turn into the wizard forums with the demon vs. sage discussions! b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I dunno if I'm coming or going some days...b:shocked0 -
lol sage is far better than demon in my opinion.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Judging by the look of the skills I would love to go Demon b:victory0
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Sage Psy seems a little better ...
but the demon's Psychic Will 2second more is O.O (+ the 4% more damage on soul of vengeance).
But just thinking of +5% all damage + remove squad's negatives status with Bubble is : fweew godly. +The 2sec more Soulburn duration >.< +I prefer having +3attack lvl with Black voodoo than +3def
So it'll probably be Sage for me it if doesnt change.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
sadly I have to say Sage seems better.... Why sadly? Cause I hate the sage fairy...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Doujin - Sanctuary wrote: »Sage Psy seems a little better ...
but the Psychic Will 2second more is O.O (+ the 4% more damage on soul of vengeance).
Huh? Thought Sage is givin 2 more seconds to Psychic Will. (in Ascii's thread he thought he mixed them up, but actually he didn't as it seems)
And to me the soul of vengeance of sage seems more useful, cuz u can cast it on barbs now. For selfuse it isn't that useful in the later lvls...u don't tank and u don't grind that much (and even while grinding - ure not close range attack). PvP maybe but no Psy tank's that much to deal a great amount of dmg with vengeance.
/edit: and Hypnos told me to go demon... >:/[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
the Demon aoe's are better and tbh that might sway me to the Demon side
after reading the threads on the other forum, i am going to wait until everything is finalized until i 100% decide on my path[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
These like chose, you more like squad or go to DD side. b:chuckle
Sage side has :
Bubble of life with debuff purify seem good.
SoV without mana drain seem good too.
Soul of Silence seal time last 5 second longer.
but Demon side has :
SoV with 4% more damage seem good too.
White vodoo reduced channel ? o.0 (so we can quickly switch to white on emergency ?)
Glacial shard 100% immobilize.
Aqua impact 20% chance to reduce target atk lv by 30 ?
Disturb soul reduce channel speed by 100%
So many bleed ? Btw just realize . . where sand trap ?Torrent
Sage: Deals an additional 1200 water damage over 15 seconds
Demon: Effect reduced by 3 seconds.
Aqua Cannon
Sage: 30% chance to immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
Demon: 50% chance for opponent to take an additional 4518.8 water damage over 6 seconds.
Red Tide
Sage: 50% chance to consume 1 spark only
Demon: Bleed effect increased to x1.2 of Soulforce.
Landslide
Sage: Knockback distance extended by 3 metres
Demon: 30% Chance to inflict an additional 50% damage over 4seconds (unsure)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
Use search, it was your best friends to avoid many suffering in internet...0 -
Heheheh >:}
well demon don't seem all that bad, 100% chance to paralyze, decrease 30 opponent atk lvl, Bleed more, more chance to silence, longer stunn all seem pretty good. Demon White voodoo reduce channel of all skill while in white voodoo state, but 3% channel hardly make a different. Demon Aqua Canon and Landslide have the downside of "chance", but it's more useful than sage landslide.
On the other hand Sage psy have longer psychic will, soulburn, better diminished/ empower vigor and pretty much tough to kill with extra 5def lvl on white voodoo. Also Tide Spirit is improved with longer time duration and I can see its use. Sage psychic is wat seem like the true witch doctor of the game, annoying and hard to kill.
Sandtrap:
Sage: deal 1200 more damage
Demon: reduce duration by 3s (similar to torrent)
For psy, I have to say both path are pretty much balance =][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
So many bleed ? Btw just realize . . where sand trap
Yea I was wondering about that too. But the original post didn't have it either.
As for the skills, it looks pretty balanced and I don't feel bad getting my feet wet going demon before all this info was released. Demon shard with its 100% chance to immobilize makes it worth it joining the dark side (hopefully it does get implemented lol).0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »Heheheh >:}
Sandtrap:
Sage: deal 1200 more damage
Demon: reduce duration by 3s (similar to torrent)
For psy, I have to say both path are pretty much balance =]
5 bleed skills and so many power full debuff . . b:sinTorrent
Sage: Deals an additional 1200 water damage over 15 seconds
Demon: Effect reduced by 3 seconds.
Sandtrap:
Sage: deal 1200 more damage
Demon: reduce duration by 3s (similar to torrent)
Aqua Cannon
Sage: 30% chance to immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
Demon: 50% chance for opponent to take an additional 4518.8 water damage over 6 seconds.
Red Tide
Sage: 50% chance to consume 1 spark only
Demon: Bleed effect increased to x1.2 of Soulforce.
Landslide
Sage: Knockback distance extended by 3 metres
Demon: 30% Chance to inflict an additional 50% damage over 4seconds (unsure)
(pure magic + lv 95 (crappy normal) weapon 600 ~ 812 m.atk = 3941 ~ 5135 m.atk & 15000 soulforce)
All demon bleed :
Torrent : about 1554 damage per 2 seconds for 12 seconds.
Sand trap : about 1675 damage per 2 seconds for 12 seconds.
Aqua canon : about 1506 damage per 2 seconds for 6 seconds. (50% chance)
Landslide : about 2063 damage per 2 seconds for 4 seconds. (30% chance)
Red Tide : about 4000 damage per 2 seconds for 9 seconds ? (how many reduction we get ?)
Demon side anyone ?
Almost all those skills does not need chi and spark only red tide . . b:sin[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
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I wonder if the bubble remove neg. will be for the whole party... or self only...b:question[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I think it would be aoe. Because we already have Psychic Will for individual(even thought it costs a spark
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im already demon and cant w8 to have the demon skillz available ingame0
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sage seems like the pve path - with more of utility and increased survivability
demon is more of a pvp path - increased dmg on dot ticks , more crit , more dmg , more pvp goodies
BUT all benefits sage gives are kind of nice in pvp too .... but some skills seem wrong translated or would be really unbalanced.....0 -
I disagree...Sage diminished/empower vigor is pvp >:( jk
and I dunno about others, but 100% paralyze is surely overpower, demon glacial shard -> dd -> earth vector -> dd -> demon glacial shard -> dd -> soul of stunning/ run-> repeat = omg
)
also, soul of stunning and soul of retaliation share cooldown, which mean sage soul of retaliation also benefit from sage soul of stunning *reduce 5s cooldown*
well I say sage psychic is all around hexor and team pvp support. nasty =([SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Psychic
Aqua Impact
Sage: Slow effect increased by 10%
Demon: 20% chance to reduce opponents attack level by 30 (unsure)
demon
Black Voodoo
Sage: Attack level increased by an additional 3
Demon: Defence level reduced by 3
sage
Torrent
Sage: Deals an additional 1200 water damage over 15 seconds
Demon: Effect reduced by 3 seconds.
tossup
Bubble of Life
Sage: Removes any Negative effects
Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
tossup
Aqua Cannon
Sage: 30% chance to immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
Demon: 50% chance for opponent to take an additional 4518.8 water damage over 6 seconds.
demon
Glacial Shards
Sage: Immobilize effect increased by 2 seconds
Demon: 100% chance to immobilize target.
demon
Empowered Vigor
Sage: Reduces charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
Demon: Healing Effects increased by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%
sage
Disturb Soul
Sage: Effect extended by an additional 3 seconds
Demon: channelling reduce effect increased to 100%
tossup
Tide Spirit
Sage: Reduced channel effect increased by 3 seconds
Demon: Adds an additional 20% weapon damage for 15 seconds.
demon
Red Tide
Sage: 50% chance to consume 1 spark only
Demon: Bleed effect increased to x1.2 of Soulforce.
demon
Aqua Spirit
Sage: Additional 5% water damage
Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%
tossup
Earthen Spirit
Sage: Additional 5% Earth damage
Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%
tossup
Spirit Blast
Sage: 20% chance to deal 30% more damage (unsure)
Demon: Adds an Additional 361 damage
depends on how much damage lvl 11 skills do
White Voodoo
Sage: Defence level increased by an additional 5
Demon: Channel Time Reduced by 3% (< O_o OP much?)
sage
Landslide
Sage: Knockback distance extended by 3 metres
Demon: 30% Chance to inflict an additional 50% damage over 4seconds (unsure)
this is like sage hailstorm(demon side), demon
Sandburst Blast
Sage: Area Effect extended to 10 metres
Demon: 20% chance to reduce accuracy by an additional 20% for 8 seconds.
sage
Diminished Vigor
Sage: Increases charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
Demon: Healing Effects reduced by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%
sage
Soulburn
Sage: effect extended by 2 seconds.
Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
isnt the cooldown like 30 seconds? eh tossup
Earth Vector
Sage: 50% chance to not consume a spark
Demon: Range increased by 2 metres
demon
Psychic Will
Sage: 20% chance to not consume Chi.
Demon: Effect extended by 2 seconds
demon
Soul of Vengeance
Sage: Will not reduce your Mana points
Demon: Damage reflected increased by 4% of Soulforce
demon
Soul of Stunning
Sage: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
Demon: Stun time increased by 1 second
demon
Soul of Silence
Sage: Seal Time increased to 5 Seconds
Demon: Chance to Seal increased.
demon depending on how high the chance is, hmm maybe tossup
Soul of Retaliation
Sage: Reduces the damage Taken to 0.65 of Soulforce
Demon: Reflect Damaged increased to 0.65 of Soulforce
tossup
Tide Form
Sage: Swimming speed increased by 20%
Demon: Additional 3 defence levels.
who levels this?
this is what psys needed. Sage/Demon is a very hard choice though. Last night i was thinking sage but now i like demon a lot.Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »this is what psys needed. Sage/Demon is a very hard choice though. Last night i was thinking sage but now i like demon a lot.
Miz, i farted and it smells reallllly bad. BTW HAI b:bye. Sage/Demon ftw 
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Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »this is what psys needed. Sage/Demon is a very hard choice though. Last night i was thinking sage but now i like demon a lot.
Psychic Will
Sage: 20% chance to not consume Chi.
Demon: Effect extended by 2 seconds
Mixed up, Sage is extending the effect by 2 secs.
Chose Sage cuz I think it's the more defensive way and I can't really find a offensive nor defensive one by taking Demon that would be worth it.
6 secs Charm cooldown (I think that's one of the most OP things), Bubble of life = group purge if it's not only working on urself (Will be nice to know how useful it is in TW), Psychic Will = Immune to physical dmg for 10 seconds, Vengeance will be nice for Barbs now (since it doesn't suck their mana anymore), Retalation absorbs even more dmg and the 5% more dmg are also more of an dmg boost than 1% crit in my imagination.
Feel free to give me reasons for Demon, cuz I hardly find some...maybe I just underrate something[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sage looks like the way to go, but we can't say anything for sure till the official Sage/Demon is out.0
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This was kinda tough. There are a lot of sage skills I like and a lot of demon skills I like. However, I did as I did with my cleric and went down the line to pick which I wanted more, sage or demon of each skill. It was overwhelming that I picked demon for sooooo many of the skills. So I guess that is it, if these don't change, demon it is.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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FapFapFap - Raging Tide wrote: »Psychic Will
Sage: 20% chance to not consume Chi.
Demon: Effect extended by 2 seconds
Mixed up, Sage is extending the effect by 2 secs.
Chose Sage cuz I think it's the more defensive way and I can't really find a offensive nor defensive one by taking Demon that would be worth it.
6 secs Charm cooldown (I think that's one of the most OP things), Bubble of life = group purge if it's not only working on urself (Will be nice to know how useful it is in TW), Psychic Will = Immune to physical dmg for 10 seconds, Vengeance will be nice for Barbs now (since it doesn't suck their mana anymore), Retalation absorbs even more dmg and the 5% more dmg are also more of an dmg boost than 1% crit in my imagination.
Feel free to give me reasons for Demon, cuz I hardly find some...maybe I just underrate something
Bubble of life is a purify taking away negative statuses.
Some of the reasons i like demon:
Demon Aqua cannon adds an extra 4k damage which is HUGE!
Tide Spirit adds more damage. The negative channeling is useless since psys already have pretty fast channeling.
Red Tide bleeds more damage.
glacial shards has an 100% chance to freeze. Thats a garuanteed freeze every 8 seconds making WRs and WBs nonfactor.
Landslide adds more damage on top of its already beautiful damage
You can shoot off an earth vector from 32 meters
Psychic Will lasts longer
Soul of Vengence reflects more damage
Soul of stunning stuns longer allowing for more combos.
Sage has some decent effects too but i like way more demon effects than i do sage.Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Ah yeah purify was what I meant, it was late xD
Hm yeah that's quite nice but I was more thinking of how I play so I couldn't figure it out to be useful for me.
Anyways, Psychic will still is extended as Sage, not as Demon. This thread OP got the correct descritpion, Ascii mixed those up and didn't edit them afterwards.
Aquad Cannons effect is rly nice...since it deals the most dmg after red tide but doesn't need any chi. Dmg with demon tide spirit and double spark must be awesome but we get triple spark anyways...I wonder which deals higher dmg, triple or the combo mentioned before.
Dmg-wise demon will defenitely go higher with some skills, but I just love 6 seconds charm cooldown so much since I'm a squishie and mainly interested in PvP/TWb:dirty[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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