Does Stream of Rejuvenation overwrite Ironheart Blessing? o_O?

drmarley wrote: »

Well - when I demon IH then stream someone the MP regen effect is still there.. not sure if that proves anything though.

Emm not really. MP regen is unconnected to HP regen (seperate icon)- so even if heal over time did get overwritten (which does not seem to be happening), the MP regen would still remain unaffected.

Aydamn - Lost City wrote: »

Sounds like they fixed it then, excellent. Thanks for the update

np! b:thanks

Fixed? or did nobody test it properly in the first place? b:puzzled

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

ahira what class was the test subject on? did the test subjects HP fill up before the full stacking was finished?

Test subject was a cleric (me in fact o_o). And no, all observations were carried out well under full HP. That was the main reason for removing weapon/rings so tests could be carried out more easily over a smaller HP window. Removing and re-equipping equips I could get a 3k+ HP window to work with without ticking my heiro, but still more than enough. (The other reason for not using a weapon is you get a singular magic attack and not a range so its a bit more accurate to work with for both calculated and test values.)

Just to give a generalised overview of the type of numbers I had (roughly);

lvl 10 IH ~ 900HP
lvl 1 SoR ~ 1.5k HP

IH + SoR ~ 2.4k HP i.e they did stack

If they did not stack I would have expected a value of ~ 1.7k HP gained

Hope thats made it a bit more clearer. b:shy

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Bump. Test moar.

more what? 0__0?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

still some cloudy parts. Which did u cast first? how many sec. did it take for each tic to procure. Since a cleric hp is too low to fully see the full potential of the heals, how many sec is the window range that you took the numbers from? since the heal is only in the hp bars, thers no way to see if the heal got 'cut off' unless u have a bigger hp bar. ill see if i can do some of my own testing and see what compares

Not sure how I can make it any clearer- but i'll try! =X . Yes cleric HP is rather lowish but without weapon, rings or mag attack buff your heals will give far less HP than normal so therefore you can easily make observations in a much smaller HP window as I explained.

My magic attack for the purpose of this test was 438 (exactly because no weapon range introduced). I removed a few pieces of equipment which left me with 3.3k HP. When re-equipped and heal/s cast I made a note of the HP at which heal over time ended. This I did several times and a pretty accurate HP gain can be determined from the difference between end HP and initial HP (3.3k). There was a slight variance because of health regen but is very small as we are unbuffed.

You can also calculate how much HP lvl10 IH gives = 714 + (0.3 x 438) = 845 HP.

For lvl 1 SoR = [690 + (0.23 x 438)] instant heal + 690 heal over time = 790HP instant heal + 690 HP heal over time

Both of these heals were tested seperately first and the HP gains corresponded to those values calculated above.

Please note that "if" both heals did stack together then total HP gained would = 845+790+690= 2325 HP and this is what I in fact noted (IH was cast first obviously, as we're trying to work out if IH gets overwritten)

If they didnt stack you'd get the full HP gain from the SoR plus a few seconds of the IH heal. As SoR has a channel+cast time of 3.5 seconds the HP from IH before SoR is cast, I approximated as ~200HP

So if stacking did not take place, HP gained would = 200+790+690=1680HP i.e there is a significant difference between the two which makes it very easy to differentiate between whether stacking is occuring or not. I also made note of the HP after SoR instant heal. If more than 690HP (the heal over time from SoR) is added to this, its obvious the rest of the HP can only be coming from IH heal over time.

As far as needing a big HP bar is concerned, removing and re-equipping a few pieces of armor gave me over 3k HP to work with, which was more than enough for the purposes of this test.

Of course as you said using a normal magic attack you will need alot of HP to test this, probably ~7k perhaps in my case or could be alot more depending on your mag attack/level of IH/SoH. But please feel free to test it if you'd like to satisfy your doubts.

I dont see to point though- if it stacks at low magic attack its not going to stop stacking at higher magic attack! -_________-' In all honesty though despite me never using SoR (which is why its lvl1) I was convinced it would not stack from what you and maybe a few other ppl had posted on the forums and genuinely i was suprised to find out that wasnt the case. b:faint

But yes I was quite rigourous in the testing so I stand by the conclusion. If I still had the slightest doubt that they didnt stack I would truly say so.

(Apologies to everyone for all this extra detail- I much prefer the brief explanation I gave at the beginning b:surrender)

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

@ahira

one more curious thing. Atm the accounts that have been told on the forums usually talk about 2 clerics. one doing IH and the other SoR. Do you think there is a diff. if a separate person did the SoR instead? (knowing PWI i wouldnt be surprised if something diff. happened)

and yeah i couldnt test cause it was maint.

So you're saying that maybe you can stack your SoR on your own IH but not on somebody elses. O_O!! It does seem unbelievably silly if something like that were to happen but oh well, only way to find out is to test.... which i've just done! b:chuckle

Just used a variant of my previous method. Got another cleric to cast IH on me (with no weapons/rings equipped) and I followed that with a SoR cast on myself. As expected both heals appear so stack like before.

Thank you random cleric called Sheshata for sparing a few minutes to test this. Science is in your debt! b:shy