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Ephemerai - Sanctuary
Ephemerai - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
edited February 2010 in General Discussion
This is NOT meant as a flame post/thread.

I've just been wondering, what is actually in store for Perfect World? For the past few weeks, patch notes have consisted of one- or two-liners saying "minor bug fixes" or "fixes for minor glitches" or "fixes for graphics glitch on new boutique items," etc. Is that because nothing else is being worked on, or is something large being worked on bit by bit so that no information about it can be released yet?

Also, why hasn't the patch info on the main site been updated?

Like I said, I'm just wondering. This is getting a little ridiculous. The devs (wherever they may be based) are getting PAID for this work, yet less is being churned out than free servers I'd played in the past where devs were 100% volunteers, developing unique content for a game they don't get paid to work on. And it wasn't ****ty content either.

Also, text fixes and such really can't be all that's done in a week's worth of time...

So, I'm just wondering, is there anything in the works? Or are we just to expect the level of development for PW to be this.. sad? What do you guys think?
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  • Macenza - Raging Tide
    Macenza - Raging Tide Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ephemerai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Or are we just to expect the level of development for PW to be this.. sad?

    ^^^this

    the only thing that's been released that's good is genies and the new race in the...5-6 years or something like that in which PW has existed, any new dungeons that come out are always the same basic design just like all the other dungeons,
    really this game should just be called "Perfect Item Mall World".
  • Camerlengo - Dreamweaver
    Camerlengo - Dreamweaver Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Well, this game, PWI, has only been out for 1.5 years now.


    @OP: I think they're finishing the expansion.
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Frankly I find the post of the admin less then informative..

    minor fixes to this or that..
    First thing that pops up: What is this and that fix?
    Hence I don't even bother reporting bugs even if I see 1.

    I wonder if the real people that do the fixing (in China I assume) make a better effort at reporting things back to the community.

    Also with the majority of games I played any real info is always available at the creators home-base first, aka best source of info, before the game is localized to subsidiaries like we have here.
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  • Arcrueid - Raging Tide
    Arcrueid - Raging Tide Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PW-CN Updates (Google translated for your convenience)

    What happens there will one day happen here. How people read about Nirvanna and new Lunarglade well before it was patched/updated here. I didn't believe the Google-translated "3 mil coins to open Lunarglade in squad mode" until it actually got updated here and actually did indeed cost 3 mil.

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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    there probably is something going on in the back ground, you never know how wide 'minor bug fixes' scopes in what it fixes either. quite frankly, we dont have many problems or major glitches right now so what do you expect? new game shaking content every week?

    find something else to complain about, por favor.
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  • ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear
    ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ephemerai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So, I'm just wondering, is there anything in the works? Or are we just to expect the level of development for PW to be this.. sad? What do you guys think?

    Yes their two new games. Not knowing how big their Dev team is, Perfect World as a game might be on the back burner for them since I doudt its their priority anymore.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I think that for those of us who got acquainted with PW through this version of the game the upgrade rate has in fact been remarkable. Three expansions and numerous upgrades which implemented important features. This is not the same game i started playing a little after release. I think we should rather enjoy this quiet season, and the non CS event many have been asking for, as IMO not all change has been for the best (leveling pace, CS balance). Spring should bring more sales and news of content being added.
  • rax
    rax Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Two words Forsaken World the game they hope to replace PW with beta in CN march 25
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    so do we just quit now?
  • xarfox
    xarfox Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The reason for the simple bug fixes and lack of content these past few updates is because of a new update on the horizon.

    Stay tuned and we'll be giving you guys a preview soon. ;)
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  • DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver
    DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm know I'm a psychic but I predicted Xarfox would post something like that in this thread. b:chuckle
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    xarfox wrote: »
    The reason for the simple bug fixes and lack of content these past few updates is because of a new update on the horizon.

    Stay tuned and we'll be giving you guys a preview soon. ;)

    Yummy b:mischievous
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm know I'm a psychic but I predicted Xarfox would post something like that in this thread. b:chuckle

    doesn't work if your prediction comes after teh fact.
    b:surrender

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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for the heads up Xarfox, it's always good to know.
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    xarfox wrote: »
    The reason for the simple bug fixes and lack of content these past few updates is because of a new update on the horizon.

    Stay tuned and we'll be giving you guys a preview soon. ;)

    Sounds nom-able.


    On another related note more directed towards the OP, you do need to remember that there are other games being worked on (I find it hard to believe that all devs working on PWI would not be working on one of the other games at least, but hey, I don't know how those people work) and there's still an expansion to finish.

    TB 79 skills, anybody?

    Have a little bit of patience and I'm sure something will come along soon.

    ... Least I do hope so.
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  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The following is my own personal opinions, so take it with a grain of salt, or the whole salt shaker. b:pleased

    PWI has had multiple expansions since the 2008 launch. The latest expansion with the Tideborn is just now 2 months old and players are still figuring out things about the classes and playing the game with the new gameplay angles. b:pleased

    New content is constantly being added. New content is also coming for future releases. Announcements will come in due time, which is up to PMs and marketing.

    Some game dev background info...

    It would be very "anti-player" and "anti-game playing experience" for PWE to post every single bug that gets fixed and every bit of text that gets fixed. Plus PWE staff would be spending time cataloging, writing, formatting, editing, and prepping the data to publish it for the web. Imagine writing a full video game strategy guide like you see in the store and releasing it every week or two weeks. Those guides take many months to write and publish, or over a year depending on how in-depth it is.

    All that employee power, time, and money can be better spent working on keeping the game going, serving our players, creating content, testing, writing content, and making sure server maintenances run less then 2 hours.

    If the hundreds of fixes were itemized it would give away stories or events that some players may not have done yet. Marketing, management, devs/designers in China, and more have their say on what can and can't be shared publicly.

    PWE is ramping up and sharing some very cool stuff with our players through our Blog, our Podcasts, forthcoming Community Events and Contests, and more things that are in the works for this and future years.

    We are also improving and expanding our service for our players in many areas. One that I'm happy about is that we recently made it where Tech Support works 7 days a week 10a-7p California Time, instead of solely just Monday-Friday.

    I can understand some of your concerns, but PWE is doing crazy good things for our players. Thank you all for your understanding, you all ROCK! b:victoryb:laugh
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    darthpanda16 wrote: »
    The following is my own personal opinions, so take it with a grain of salt, or the whole salt shaker. b:pleased

    PWI has had multiple expansions since the 2008 launch. The latest expansion with the Tideborn is just now 2 months old and players are still figuring out things about the classes and playing the game with the new gameplay angles. b:pleased

    New content is constantly being added. New content is also coming for future releases. Announcements will come in due time, which is up to PMs and marketing.

    Some game dev background info...

    It would be very "anti-player" and "anti-game playing experience" for PWE to post every single bug that gets fixed and every bit of text that gets fixed. Plus PWE staff would be spending time cataloging, writing, formatting, editing, and prepping the data to publish it for the web. Imagine writing a full video game strategy guide like you see in the store and releasing it every week or two weeks. Those guides take many months to write and publish, or over a year depending on how in-depth it is.

    All that employee power, time, and money can be better spent working on keeping the game going, serving our players, creating content, testing, writing content, and making sure server maintenances run less then 2 hours.

    If the hundreds of fixes were itemized it would give away stories or events that some players may not have done yet. Marketing, management, devs/designers in China, and more have their say on what can and can't be shared publicly.

    PWE is ramping up and sharing some very cool stuff with our players through our Blog, our Podcasts, forthcoming Community Events and Contests, and more things that are in the works for this and future years.

    We are also improving and expanding our service for our players in many areas. One that I'm happy about is that we recently made it where Tech Support works 7 days a week 10a-7p California Time, instead of solely just Monday-Friday.

    I can understand some of your concerns, but PWE is doing crazy good things for our players. Thank you all for your understanding, you all ROCK! b:victoryb:laugh

    Sur le gasp!

    Informative post is... pretty informative.

    And also brings up another good point - "minor bug fixes" could actually span across a hundred or so things in the game. Gawd, writing all those down would take as long as maintenance itself.

    No grain of salt or salt shaker taken. ;D
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  • DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver
    DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    doesn't work if your prediction comes after teh fact.
    b:surrender

    b:chuckle

    But I know that I thought it before although I can't prove to others that I did, it was just a funny thing to me and worth posting about it. b:cool

    It could mean Xarfox is getting predictable as well. b:chuckle
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Darth, Xarfox - any word on the hair fixes I submitted weeks back? I understand I kinda trodded into a gray area there, where the TOS goes, but I'd REALLY love to see this thing fixed, and I know many other players would too.
  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    See the Tech Support Zone Stickie please b:pleased
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thank you Darth, Gm's opinions are always welcome.
  • BunnyTamer - Dreamweaver
    BunnyTamer - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm always up for new content b:victory
  • DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver
    DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Me too....but major bug fixes and optimizations are just as loved if not more. b:dirty
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    xarfox wrote: »
    The reason for the simple bug fixes and lack of content these past few updates is because of a new update on the horizon.

    Stay tuned and we'll be giving you guys a preview soon. ;)
    Aren't you the one who made a post like, a year ago, that said "We are aware that gold prices are rising and we assure you that we are monitoring them and that they will go down"

    And now they're three times higher?
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    @darthpanda16

    Thanks for the wall-o-text.
    I have emptied the shaker completely.

    Here is something you could have written tho.

    "We are not allowed to share details. Talk to China management or check out their site for upcoming features."

    Far shorter and to the piont.

    (You have the makings of a great GM tho.)
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  • SinCityChick - Dreamweaver
    SinCityChick - Dreamweaver Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hmm...I am hoping to have the TB lvl79 skills all set up before I hit that level...then I could just do the research and go right to the ones I want/need for my character...PLZ tell us that's what you are giving us!!

    And for gosh sakes, how do I apply to get this avatar fixed...
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    SinCityChick - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hmm...I am hoping to have the TB lvl79 skills all set up before I hit that level...then I could just do the research and go right to the ones I want/need for my character...PLZ tell us that's what you are giving us!!

    And for gosh sakes, how do I apply to get this avatar fixed...

    Send in a ticket and we should be able to resolve that for you :)
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  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Aren't you the one who made a post like, a year ago, that said "We are aware that gold prices are rising and we assure you that we are monitoring them and that they will go down"

    And now they're three times higher?

    yes b:surrender
    darthpanda16 wrote: »
    We are also improving and expanding our service for our players in many areas. One that I'm happy about is that we recently made it where Tech Support works 7 days a week 10a-7p California Time, instead of solely just Monday-Friday.

    best thing ya'll have done since i started playing imho

    i've noticed a tangible increase in efficiency with a few other systems as well, such as ticketing

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    rax wrote: »
    Two words Forsaken World the game they hope to replace PW with beta in CN march 25

    They don't hope to replace PW, just supplement their catalog.

    The older a game gets, the cheaper it becomes to maintain and upgrade. PWI just came out with quite a huge update with the Tideborn expansion, and it's still not finished. I'm sure there is another expansion already being worked on, as it doesn't take the same amount of development staff to create new content than it does to create a whole new game. They will keep creating new content for some time. PW is still PWE's bread and butter. It'll have a longer shelf life than even I would probably expect.
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