Is there a reason Dreamweaver is dominated by Calamity?

Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver
Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 432 Arc User
edited February 2010 in General Discussion
So I guess these guys are really powerful and unstoppable? I know little of the guild strength here, save for my own. But really, I can't go anywhere without seeing "Held by: Calamity" under the name of the place. Should there not be some sort of limit? Are the other factions just getting their butts whooped every other day? Do they even have a chance? I'm not saying Calamity should be kicked out (you'd be glad to have one of them on your squad in a BH) at all, but I'm just baffled as to how they're gaining so much popularity and strength. (There are Calamity Axes now? Is it becoming a PWI franchise?)
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm pretty sure there is another thread similar to this, but more server-wide

    The fact of the matter is players in Calamity are - many anyway - major cash shoppers. Many of these same people also moved to Raging Tide and are now owning lands on RT too with the same cash shopping tactic.

    Calamity owns the amount of land they do because they are a powerful guild with a lot of high level members who cash shop their way into greatness or can save up a lot of coin to +12 their gear. They have some serious players in that guild. In fact in comparison I think Equinox has more higher levels than Calamity does, yet they do not hold the same amount of land.

    In comparison, even with more higher levels, you'd need people with gear cash shopped into the oblivion to stand a good chance against Cala. The smaller factions like HDT, Dynasty and the rest of them don't stand a chance. Calamity wipes the floor with those people in five minutes.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Most likely because everyone else just sits around crying "We need server resetz nao plz! D:" and sit in BH's all day alone without working with their faction at all to develop, before hopping off to the big faction themselves, rather than getting off their backsides and making a real effort to actually do anything about the situation.

    Tbh, it's purely because of player laziness.
  • Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Most likely because everyone else just sits around crying "We need server resetz nao plz! D:" and sit in BH's all day alone without working with their faction at all to develop, before hopping off to the big faction themselves, rather than getting off their backsides and making a real effort to actually do anything about the situation.

    Tbh, it's purely because of player laziness.

    TBH, your opinion stinks. Calamity Simply has more "cash shop" players than other guilds. Granted, many guilds have these types of players, but, most of them seem to be in Calamity.

    I suppose it has something to do with Calamity owning most of the map, heavy cash players are the ones who want to always be the best, so, they join the guild that's on top.
  • BloodFire - Harshlands
    BloodFire - Harshlands Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This is the way it is in most severs.
    I wish there was a 3~5 month reset. Even being in top guilds is boring.
    Because people will want to join the best for the money and title.
    No one wants to be in the loosing faction.
    3 months is enough time I think. Players would even out, and simply play the game for fun. Instead of the pressures of stagnant TWs.

    I think in the end PWI would win to. Because smaller guilds would want to CS more with a feeling of. I to can gain land and bring there friends. More fun=more molah PWI.

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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    " Is there a reason Dreamweaver is dominated by Calamity?"

    The faction is better than the others.
    Has better people, who have better gear, etc.

    /thread
  • XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver
    XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Money money money. They all waste their money. b:surrender
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    How do they waste their money spending it the way they want to, Saira?
  • JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver
    JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Why do so many people assume that cala members are heavy cashshop players?

    Look at the weekly income they get from the lands they own, Im guessing that most of the lands income is used to upgrade members gear.
    It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I've met many members of calamity. they're very helpful most of the time. so what if they own the map? TW is about having fun. and they're certainly having it.


    and for the record, my former faction, which is probably the smallest one period (that was doing TW) lasted longer than some of these other bigger factions. (even though I slept through TW..) it takes patience and learning to beat a faction like calamity in TW. they are highly-organized, and they know what they're doing.
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  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    the same question was goign for lost city server and conqueror....


    1- they have access to easy immune potions crafting in 1k
    2- they probably have the most experienced player
    3- they probably have really high refine and other cash shop items
    4- they can afford almost everything with salary
    5- other major guild dont merge do be as strong as calamity

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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Because they can. Simple.

    ~S
  • XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver
    XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How do they waste their money spending it the way they want to, Saira?

    Technically not waste, they may spend it as they like. They might have excellent jobs that pay very well and they have leftovers they like to spend here. But instead of virtual items, perhaps donating it to good causes would be a better use of it. IMHO b:surrenderb:shutup

    All I know is I don't have their kind of money. b:sad
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Technically not waste, they may spend it as they like. They might have excellent jobs that pay very well and they have leftovers they like to spend here. But instead of virtual items, perhaps donating it to good causes would be a better use of it. IMHO b:surrenderb:shutup

    All I know is I don't have their kind of money. b:sad

    Good Causes? Really? And what is a better cause to you, than my spending my money, for my enjoyment?

    I already pay taxes that allow welfare scabs to live without having to work for what they get, seems to me I am already supporting a so-called 'good cause' there.

    Do "gods work"? Why? Can't god do it himself?

    Help people who revile the United States... that is until a disaster strikes them? Not a chance.

    Help some pathetic drunkard to far gone in his cups to do more than crawl to a soup kitchen and beg for scraps? I'd rather cut off my own balls with a dull knife.

    Sorry, If something is 'worthy' of my money, it gets it, but 'good causes' don't rate that in my mind.

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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    here is a few things alot of players in calamity arent heavy cash shop users infact only a select amount are cash shoppers the main reason calamity is owning most of the map is the fact that no one is willing to stay in a faction everyone jumps ship and leaves to calamity. we have had several people from our faction leave to join calamity for "better tw". but the problem is the smaller factions cant get up there cause all the high lvls leave to go there.
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  • Ophida - Dreamweaver
    Ophida - Dreamweaver Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    here is a few things alot of players in calamity arent heavy cash shop users infact only a select amount are cash shoppers the main reason calamity is owning most of the map is the fact that no one is willing to stay in a faction everyone jumps ship and leaves to calamity. we have had several people from our faction leave to join calamity for "better tw". but the problem is the smaller factions cant get up there cause all the high lvls leave to go there.

    Even with our small guild, we've noticed the same thing. Once 8x comes around, they leave for Calamity. How is an up and coming guild supposed to even contemplate running a TW when all their higher levels leave?
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Not sure how common this is, but.

    I look at territory wars. I see Calamity has basically won. I see that there's no way for me to learn how to play territory wars other than by joining Calamity.
    I look at the hugs cost to bid for a territory attack, and the impossibility of organising a bunch of other players to get together at some time (and you don't even know WHEN until after you win, and it's almost certainly the middle of the night) and...

    Yeah, forget that. Calamity can have their name everywhere. It doesn't concern me.

    Partly, of course, we came to dream for a PVE server.
  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Because they can. Simple.

    ~S

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  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    calamity hasn't always had it their own way, it's just they were better organised from the start - a group of players moved to DW when it opened and played and levelled and TW'd together and got land and kept it for the most part.

    The same is happening on Raging Tide, although now people have seen the practice works there are a few factions who have done the same, and i am sure the same will happen if PWI introduce more new servers.
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  • Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver
    Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The hell if I'm leaving my guild. I don't know if we're doing TW anytime soon, but I'd rather not leave the friends I've made there, level 80 or not.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So I guess these guys are really powerful and unstoppable? I know little of the guild strength here, save for my own. But really, I can't go anywhere without seeing "Held by: Calamity" under the name of the place. Should there not be some sort of limit? Are the other factions just getting their butts whooped every other day? Do they even have a chance? I'm not saying Calamity should be kicked out (you'd be glad to have one of them on your squad in a BH) at all, but I'm just baffled as to how they're gaining so much popularity and strength. (There are Calamity Axes now? Is it becoming a PWI franchise?)
    same reason nefarious owns 95% of sancs map? none of us are such as extreme cash shoppers or recieve 200+m, in which members with access to that can steal should they not be cash shoppers? (theres been a number of members whom have a rep for taking guild funds to gear up and getting away with it lol...)

    the majority of extreme cash shoppers who could fight back are:
    A. too unorganized or into their own interests to fight back
    B. considering the IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM idea
    C. trying to stay away from TW drama/expenses

    dont expect it to be cleared soon.
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  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    calamity has fewer shop spenders than equinox. calamity has a higher average lvl by 1 or 2 however. main reason we are winning is cause of the large large herb reserve that equinox seems to have gotten a hold of last night...

    aside from that, equinox and calamity are balanced overall. its just a matter of tactics and who gets lucky with crits now more than anything..

    btw im not a cash spender.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    From what I've seen, most of dreamweavers cash shoppers are in dynasty. Never fought/seen in action alot of EQ members though, so not sure. I do know however that EQ seems to be whiping the floor with Dynasty.

    Cala is good on just about all points. They are massivly organised (importent, a group of 80 highly cashshoppers runing around without a clue what to do aren't ganna win. Have verry high lvls, decent upgraded gear (suported by there massive TW income), and not to forgot, people who are strong often join cala, making them stronger.

    THough if your entire fac leaves for cala soon as they can, your fac sucks. Find a good one, where the people also play for fun, instead of that illusive paycheck.


    PS to those cala axes, they were here before the fac cala was here, faction has been named after the weapon
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  • Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver
    Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Calamity wins cause of BabyCal.... one day BabyCal will take its righful place and Dominate!!!

    TROB vs the WORLD!!!

    ok.. im bored
  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    omg. BabyCal will rule the world. An entire faction made up of alts!

    Actually, that alt faction is stronger than a lot of other factions on the server already. lol. I think its actually strong enough to beat HDT or dynasty. but we just know thats not gonna happen.
  • Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver
    Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    hmm your on to something there!!! ATTACK!! lol

    i wonder what it woudl be like to have a tw against 4 barbs. 4 clerics 4 bm and the rest all cloaked SINs. GOOD luck dieing at entrance and trying to figure out what path we on now!!
  • bmwrabcd1234
    bmwrabcd1234 Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    calamity wins because they are more skilled than the rest of you fail noobs.


    /thread
  • Euphy - Dreamweaver
    Euphy - Dreamweaver Posts: 495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Calamity is on the winning side, so it has been attracting the high and mighty for a while. Moreover, they're quite picky. They don't mindlessly except the wealthy with their uber gear and uber egos. Because of this Calamity, at least from the outside, appears to be a relatively united, cohesive group. Furthermore, they've had months of experience fighting Equinox and stamping out Dreamweavers older factions. Because of this their strategy and teamwork is honed and precise. Finally, they've been winning for so long they've benefited greatly from the profits holding territories can beget you. To the extent that I don't see that they have depend on cash infusions from their wallets.

    One more comment... Calamity has by and large avoided a bad reputation. Its members are helpful and respectful. It is a true pleasure being a squad with most Calamity members, and from the onset I assume they are reliable. This is not always the case with members from other "major" factions.
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  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Euphy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Calamity is on the winning side, so it has been attracting the high and mighty for a while. Moreover, they're quite picky. They don't mindlessly except the wealthy with their uber gear and uber egos. Because of this Calamity, at least from the outside, appears to be a relatively united, cohesive group. Furthermore, they've had months of experience fighting Equinox and stamping out Dreamweavers older factions. Because of this their strategy and teamwork is honed and precise. Finally, they've been winning for so long they've benefited greatly from the profits holding territories can beget you. To the extent that I don't see that they have depend on cash infusions from their wallets.

    One more comment... Calamity has by and large avoided a bad reputation. Its members are helpful and respectful. It is a true pleasure being a squad with most Calamity members, and from the onset I assume they are reliable. This is not always the case with members from other "major" factions.

    Got a point right here. Calamity does own almost every single piece of land on DW, but I seriously don't mind. Every Calamity member that I have met, well so far, are respectful and really nice. I would not have been able to get some bosses done if it wasn't for the Calamity boss days back then.

    Reasons why I believe Calamity are so dominant in TW is most likely their gear. And they don't even have to cash shop their way up there. With all that revenue and hard work of saving up, they can get great gear in no time.
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  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Euphy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Calamity is on the winning side, so it has been attracting the high and mighty for a while. Moreover, they're quite picky. They don't mindlessly except the wealthy with their uber gear and uber egos. Because of this Calamity, at least from the outside, appears to be a relatively united, cohesive group. Furthermore, they've had months of experience fighting Equinox and stamping out Dreamweavers older factions. Because of this their strategy and teamwork is honed and precise. Finally, they've been winning for so long they've benefited greatly from the profits holding territories can beget you. To the extent that I don't see that they have depend on cash infusions from their wallets.

    One more comment... Calamity has by and large avoided a bad reputation. Its members are helpful and respectful. It is a true pleasure being a squad with most Calamity members, and from the onset I assume they are reliable. This is not always the case with members from other "major" factions.

    Another part of why I think we work well together is even though we do get an influx of new members, a lot of Calamity members and officers have been here from the very start, so everyone just kind of knows everyone, and that helps to keep down drama/work together TW wise. It's really nice, and I would personally call Calamity both a family and a TW faction. b:cute But yes, the gear some of our more cash shop heavy members and the apo we have do help a lot. =)
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