Is there a reason Dreamweaver is dominated by Calamity?

XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Good Causes? Really? And what is a better cause to you, than my spending my money, for my enjoyment?

I already pay taxes that allow welfare scabs to live without having to work for what they get, seems to me I am already supporting a so-called 'good cause' there.

Do "gods work"? Why? Can't god do it himself?

Help people who revile the United States... that is until a disaster strikes them? Not a chance.

Help some pathetic drunkard to far gone in his cups to do more than crawl to a soup kitchen and beg for scraps? I'd rather cut off my own balls with a dull knife.

Sorry, If something is 'worthy' of my money, it gets it, but 'good causes' don't rate that in my mind.

~Saitada

Holybajesuscakes. I said you can spend your money however you like. XD
I'm not stopping you, lulz.
Buy whatever you want, I don't control your money. And I understand the worthless bottom chain getting their undeserved share of money. That's not a good cause to me. It's forced, rather.
And I'm not saying give your money to homeless alcoholics, or meth addicts. That there is a good waste. But every year at my school we all pitch in to help a family pay for their child's (with some sort of cancer or physical disability) medical bills, and I give what I can. That's usually where I think my money will be of better use.
But goodness gracious at you. Don't get your panties in a bunch, it's just a game. Sorry I'm 16 and without a job and that I don't see the world the same as you. Lol. b:sweat

Thinkalot - Dreamweaver

I've heard lots of stories about Calamity, and frankly, i don't really care.

Fact is that they nearly all have high lvl gear, they gain a LOT of cash every week, and they dominate the map. So what ?

I know that Cala in the past have done a lot of "bossdays" where they helped others like myself get the bosses they needed. For free.

It has earned them a solid reputation.

And there are some rumours that Cala won't take over ALL of the territories just because they want to avoid a "map reset", which is, in fact, understandable.

The main problem however is not the fact that Cala dominates the TW. It is simply the fact that a LOT of high lvls leave the factions that helped them become great, just to move over to Cala/EQ/...etc just to become richer.

There are so many factions out there which are, to be honest, total ****. Instead of levelling up a bit and join an existing faction that does do TW, they start one themselves and make a mess of it.

No wonder Cala dominates. Look at all the **** factions that are formed, dividing all the high lvld players, leaving the lesser lvls behind. How the hell are you supposed to get more of a fighting chance when you have idiots like "Slaughter" clanhopping trying to take some members away from other factions ? And when they join him, he boots them right after.

They should put some rules into place that prevents people to change factions within ,lets say, 2 weeks or so. You'd have way less clanhoppers/leavers/and idiots in general. And very maybe more decent factions would be formed.

From where i'm standing, out of the dozens of factions on dreamweaver, only about 6 or 7 have the potential to go against Cala. Oc those guys dominate, lol.

Astoru - Heavens Tear

o_O Why is this even a question? The same thing eventually happens on every server.

It starts out with lots of medium size factions with nice levels that go after territories. Eventually, the stronger ones weed out the weaker ones, while the stronger players of the losing factions start to gravitate towards the winning ones.

Ultimately, you get one super-unstoppable mega faction that takes over everything.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

so who's your main and what faction are you referring to exactly Thinkalot? Are you talking about Vanquish?

@mods: please don't edit his, or my post. something I want to get to the bottom of

Tapion_ - Dreamweaver

Calamity Axes lol. No its just a coincidence.The faction Armageddon, there's also a Barbarian skill called Armageddon.

But still, Calamity is a monopoly, all battles against them last 2-3 minutes and isn't any fun. It's not fair to other factions who want to take part.

Ranfa - Dreamweaver

In a way I think the current TW system is rather flawed. Only the strongest wins and will keep winning, making them stronger and even harder to defeat. Survival of the Fittest I suppose, but I can understand where concerns come from. It was rather sad seeing Inversion and Vanquish get wiped from the territories they owned the following week they won them (even if EQ really did practically handed the lands over) by more seasoned TW factions (HDT and Kindrid).

However I don't mind seeing the red all over the map much. My faction does not TW so we have little to no connection to major TW factions, but we've had chances to do BHs with Calamity members over the last several days and I found that they were skillful, helpful, friendly, and virtuous. I see them as some kind of fair king that treat his peasants the right way and many love him back.

Long post, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that they own all these lands for a reason, and the current TW system will allow them to keep doing so. But on the side note I'm interested in seeing how Equinox will fair against Calamity from now on. Everyone was so excited about EQ's victory in the last TW. It was like watching PWI equivalent of the World Cup, lol.

Saitada - Sanctuary

XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Holybajesuscakes. I said you can spend your money however you like. XD
I'm not stopping you, lulz.
Buy whatever you want, I don't control your money. And I understand the worthless bottom chain getting their undeserved share of money. That's not a good cause to me. It's forced, rather.
And I'm not saying give your money to homeless alcoholics, or meth addicts. That there is a good waste. But every year at my school we all pitch in to help a family pay for their child's (with some sort of cancer or physical disability) medical bills, and I give what I can. That's usually where I think my money will be of better use.
But goodness gracious at you. Don't get your panties in a bunch, it's just a game. Sorry I'm 16 and without a job and that I don't see the world the same as you. Lol. b:sweat

I am more inclined to pay off a needy families, child's medical bills than help the bottom feeders, kudos for agreeing on that with me XD. I congratulate you and your school for helping like that also. That is a worthy thing to donate money to, and one I also support.

~S

Laurrella - Dreamweaver

Frankly, I am fine with cash shoppers because they are the reason this game is continuing to be around and putting out new content when other "free" games are going under. If PWI wasn't making money they wouldn't still be in business and it is a business. So those of us who don't spend any real money or very little of it on PWI should be thankful that others do.

Now that being said, I do feel it would be a good addition to reset the territory map on all servers every 6 months or so just to keep things interesting. I think it would allow for more factions to participate in tw and give established groups like Calamity and others the challenge of trying to take areas again instead of being left with little to do in regards to tw.

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear

Why was the question even raised? It has the most simplest of answers.

They dominate the map because they are the best. Their reputation means alot of players are going to want to join them. So all the people will the best gear will generally be there and making loads of money via TW. Which in turn goes to upgrading there gear more. Which is why they dominate.

Ursa - Dreamweaver

ok guys, chill. QQ doesn't help anyone. I don't see endgame ppl complaining around here, it's always mid-gamer that do the QQ...
Lemme tell you a few things, as a ex member of Calamity (since Dreamweaver started - march 2009 to December 2009) and for a short stint a member of Equinox(Jan 2010):

1. CALAMITY SUCCESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CASH SHOP! Fail un understand that and you fail un understand the game. Cash shop might support the success, but is not the key to it.
2. Calamity had a core of great players. The founder of the faction, Seraphim was one of the great strategic minds I met in a MMORPG and one of the few that knew absolutely every class like the back for his hand. Every skill, every cooldown time, every combo. He knew every weapon, every armor and every bonus you can get from everything and he knew the best combo to get the best possible stats for your class. He was always willing to share his knowledge with everyone willing to learn.
3. Preparations for TW were usually 1h long, during which Seraphim was having a looooong and sometime booooring speech about assist attk, skills, heals and in the final minutes the strategy.
He kept on doing this long enough to have everyone work like a well oiled machine. Calamity is a TW machine right now.
4. Calamity was the first guild to acquire a land when the core players were between lvl 29-45. Yes, no cash shop at that time, no oracles, nothing. Just plain old grinding and getting gear from drops/quests. With that and a plan, Calamity took the 1st land in 2h45 min. The next week in less, then less, then less…until it got down to about 40 min or so if I remember correctly. Then the PvP TW started since every land was owned.
5. Calamity has a huge TW experience. I’ve been probably in more than 100 TWs while in there (PvE and PvP). There are a lot of ppl in there that I fought with in those TW, well geared, experienced, you can’t throw anything at them that they haven’t seen. They know each other, they rely on each other, they are all in Vent and talking to each other. There is a clear ranking and who’s talking to who and how the information in passed and what kind of information is passed , who’s taking decisions and who’s following orders. And everyone follows orders received from their commander or you’re out. Veterans in TW pass the knowledge to the newbs sometimes slowly, but if you’re willing to learn Calamity is one of the biggest bank of know-how in Dreamweaver. Patience and persistence is the key, and you’re going to get the info you need/want.
6. Yes, there are cash shoppers in Calamity, as there are in any other faction. The difference is not made by those cash shoppers, the difference is made by the rest of the players, organization and know-how.
7. Calamity can be defeated. Equinox shown the server how to do it 1v1. It wasn’t easy, they had to work really hard for it, but they did it. I was in TW with Equinox going against Calamity. While Equinox has a different way of organizing the TW and a somehow different concept behind it, it still works well and produced results. What I don’t understand is why no one takes those TW as examples to learn from and use them as a lesson for future. Calamity for the most part doesn’t have godly gear, they have good and very good gear. But they add on top of that the way they are making squads. Almost every squad in Calamity has a Barb a BM and a Cleric and that makes everyone full buffed. The 3 places left in the squad are used for DDs, healers, cata pullers, depending of what the squad purpose is. NEVER underestimate the power of a full buffed squad. Me as a wizard I’m easy pray for mostly everything as long as I’m not buffed. Give me full buffs and at almost 7k HP and 10k pdef/mdef I can go against anything. Put 3 wizards like me in a squad (or archers) and help with a BM stun+HF and 20-30 ppl can die in under 6 seconds. DDs are squishie without buffs. Give them buffs and you make them the worst nightmare on a TW field.
Equinox way to defeat Calamity was to just plain and simple out-DD them. At one moment I think Equinox was able to put on the field about 25 heavy DDs (wizards and archers 95+) and if I’m not mistaking at least 3 of them had heavily refined tank8 on them. At that point NO ONE in CALAMITY had rank8. NO ONE. That was the turning point in TW. That was when Calamity was able to get about 9-12 heavy DDs in TW and Equinox was able to fork out twice as much. Unfortunately some of them left to Raging Tide, some get banned for stupid reasons, some just got bored and left so Equinox firepower and TW attendance decreased dramatically to the point they started to lose again.

Yeah, wall of text, and I'm sure Mizou will QQ about it ( Hi there pal).

Calamity is a war machine, and to beat it you need another war machine, that's better organized and with more firepower. And to win , you need both, cause only one won't be enough to beat them.

u235

I say it was because of the same reason Infamy will dominate raging tide: early on everyone is a bunch of wusses who are afraid of trying anything to stop them and therefore the dominant faction is free to do whatever the hell they want.

Close? Maybe not?

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Ranfa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

In a way I think the current TW system is rather flawed. Only the strongest wins and will keep winning, making them stronger and even harder to defeat. Survival of the Fittest I suppose, but I can understand where concerns come from. It was rather sad seeing Inversion and Vanquish get wiped from the territories they owned the following week they won them (even if EQ really did practically handed the lands over) by more seasoned TW factions (HDT and Kindrid).

However I don't mind seeing the red all over the map much. My faction does not TW so we have little to no connection to major TW factions, but we've had chances to do BHs with Calamity members over the last several days and I found that they were skillful, helpful, friendly, and virtuous. I see them as some kind of fair king that treat his peasants the right way and many love him back.

Long post, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that they own all these lands for a reason, and the current TW system will allow them to keep doing so. But on the side note I'm interested in seeing how Equinox will fair against Calamity from now on. Everyone was so excited about EQ's victory in the last TW. It was like watching PWI equivalent of the World Cup, lol.

You're kidding me right?
HDT took Swiftwind tribe that week in a though, fairly ballanced TW where we had a slight overhand. Inversion was slaughtered by Cala.

Kindred is a nice TW family I gues, with some nice people who can fight off the weaker opponents. The reason they gaind and still have land in in order:

HDT gave up forrest of Haze in search of some decent TW (instead of slaughtering kindred, which got boring after 3 times)
Dynasty can't reach them, Cala is in the way.
Bushido wants to fight Dynasty/Cala (same as HDT)
Cala isn't interested in the tiny factions.
EQ wasn't able to reach them, and now is going after Dynasty

I"m sure kindred has grown since they gained land, as all factions will, but that doesn't make them a seasoned TW faction.

On that note, I'm happy Cala isn't interested in taking out the smaller factions. It allows us to have some fun at the officer (though I'm sure they'll probably eventually go after the whole map)

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

Ranfa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

However I don't mind seeing the red all over the map much. My faction does not TW so we have little to no connection to major TW factions, but we've had chances to do BHs with Calamity members over the last several days and I found that they were skillful, helpful, friendly, and virtuous. I see them as some kind of fair king that treat his peasants the right way and many love him back.

Long post, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that they own all these lands for a reason, and the current TW system will allow them to keep doing so. But on the side note I'm interested in seeing how Equinox will fair against Calamity from now on. Everyone was so excited about EQ's victory in the last TW. It was like watching PWI equivalent of the World Cup, lol.

For the record it HAS happened before, Equinox beating Calamity, though it hasn't been often, Equinox has beaten Calamity at least 4 times now.

I for one would prefer if Calamity didn't hold all the territories on the map; however, don't get me wrong, I do not want to see calamity fall through, like the likes of armagedon, as you said plenty of there members seem to be very respectful, and helpful (for the most part) despite what faction is over 'my' head. ALTHOUGH, some of there people are indeed like oemgee a Eq member? *Soandso has left the squad* Though seriously name a single faction who doesn't have someone who would prefer not to party with someone from "X" faction? I for one can't. (I am not trying to cause trouble for ANYONE in calamity, hell I have only heard stories about the above statement.) Aka rumors. <<

I wish calamity the best of luck in the future, and I hope they will continue to be the blade that continues to dominate most of the server; however, I do NOT want them to be the ONLY faction with land, with no one being able to grab land from them. Hell, even equinox has failed to properly gank calamity, perhaps it WAS due to our 'simple' but effective strategy, "overpower" calamity, though as a few us have seen, it has worked out for us, we have beaten calamity a least 4 times, maybe even 5 times.

XXSairaXx - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am more inclined to pay off a needy families, child's medical bills than help the bottom feeders, kudos for agreeing on that with me XD. I congratulate you and your school for helping like that also. That is a worthy thing to donate money to, and one I also support.

~S

Yaaaaaay agreement. I feel better now. The whole day I felt some angry-Saitada-eyes lingering and glaring down at me. Friendly high-five time! /highfives b:cool

Ranfa - Dreamweaver

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You're kidding me right?
HDT took Swiftwind tribe that week in a though, fairly ballanced TW where we had a slight overhand. Inversion was slaughtered by Cala.

Kindred is a nice TW family I gues, with some nice people who can fight off the weaker opponents. The reason they gaind and still have land in in order:

HDT gave up forrest of Haze in search of some decent TW (instead of slaughtering kindred, which got boring after 3 times)
Dynasty can't reach them, Cala is in the way.
Bushido wants to fight Dynasty/Cala (same as HDT)
Cala isn't interested in the tiny factions.
EQ wasn't able to reach them, and now is going after Dynasty

I"m sure kindred has grown since they gained land, as all factions will, but that doesn't make them a seasoned TW faction.

Well I did say 'more' seasoned factions...Maybe I'm just talking nonsense but I would think Inversion and Vanquish have way less experience in TW than HDT and Kindrid.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

For the record it HAS happened before, Equinox beating Calamity, though it hasn't been often, Equinox has beaten Calamity at least 4 times now.

I for one would prefer if Calamity didn't hold all the territories on the map; however, don't get me wrong, I do not want to see calamity fall through, like the likes of armagedon, as you said plenty of there members seem to be very respectful, and helpful (for the most part) despite what faction is over 'my' head. ALTHOUGH, some of there people are indeed like oemgee a Eq member? *Soandso has left the squad* Though seriously name a single faction who doesn't have someone who would prefer not to party with someone from "X" faction? I for one can't. (I am not trying to cause trouble for ANYONE in calamity, hell I have only heard stories about the above statement.) Aka rumors. <<

I wish calamity the best of luck in the future, and I hope they will continue to be the blade that continues to dominate most of the server; however, I do NOT want them to be the ONLY faction with land, with no one being able to grab land from them. Hell, even equinox has failed to properly gank calamity, perhaps it WAS due to our 'simple' but effective strategy, "overpower" calamity, though as a few us have seen, it has worked out for us, we have beaten calamity a least 4 times, maybe even 5 times.

Yes, I've been playing this game since after Equinox's third (fourth?) victory. Each time it happened it was like a World Cup (I know, stupid metaphor...b:cry). Sorry if I made it sound like it was the first time.

I wouldn't mind seeing half red and half pink for the entire map, personally. It may never happen but I have no doubts that Equinox has a chance of achieving it. b:cute

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ok guys, chill. QQ doesn't help anyone. I don't see endgame ppl complaining around here, it's always mid-gamer that do the QQ...
Lemme tell you a few things, as a ex member of Calamity (since Dreamweaver started - march 2009 to December 2009) and for a short stint a member of Equinox(Jan 2010):

1. CALAMITY SUCCESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CASH SHOP! Fail un understand that and you fail un understand the game. Cash shop might support the success, but is not the key to it.
2. Calamity had a core of great players. The founder of the faction, Seraphim was one of the great strategic minds I met in a MMORPG and one of the few that knew absolutely every class like the back for his hand. Every skill, every cooldown time, every combo. He knew every weapon, every armor and every bonus you can get from everything and he knew the best combo to get the best possible stats for your class. He was always willing to share his knowledge with everyone willing to learn.
3. Preparations for TW were usually 1h long, during which Seraphim was having a looooong and sometime booooring speech about assist attk, skills, heals and in the final minutes the strategy.
He kept on doing this long enough to have everyone work like a well oiled machine. Calamity is a TW machine right now.
4. Calamity was the first guild to acquire a land when the core players were between lvl 29-45. Yes, no cash shop at that time, no oracles, nothing. Just plain old grinding and getting gear from drops/quests. With that and a plan, Calamity took the 1st land in 2h45 min. The next week in less, then less, then less…until it got down to about 40 min or so if I remember correctly. Then the PvP TW started since every land was owned.
5. Calamity has a huge TW experience. I’ve been probably in more than 100 TWs while in there (PvE and PvP). There are a lot of ppl in there that I fought with in those TW, well geared, experienced, you can’t throw anything at them that they haven’t seen. They know each other, they rely on each other, they are all in Vent and talking to each other. There is a clear ranking and who’s talking to who and how the information in passed and what kind of information is passed , who’s taking decisions and who’s following orders. And everyone follows orders received from their commander or you’re out. Veterans in TW pass the knowledge to the newbs sometimes slowly, but if you’re willing to learn Calamity is one of the biggest bank of know-how in Dreamweaver. Patience and persistence is the key, and you’re going to get the info you need/want.
6. Yes, there are cash shoppers in Calamity, as there are in any other faction. The difference is not made by those cash shoppers, the difference is made by the rest of the players, organization and know-how.
7. Calamity can be defeated. Equinox shown the server how to do it 1v1. It wasn’t easy, they had to work really hard for it, but they did it. I was in TW with Equinox going against Calamity. While Equinox has a different way of organizing the TW and a somehow different concept behind it, it still works well and produced results. What I don’t understand is why no one takes those TW as examples to learn from and use them as a lesson for future. Calamity for the most part doesn’t have godly gear, they have good and very good gear. But they add on top of that the way they are making squads. Almost every squad in Calamity has a Barb a BM and a Cleric and that makes everyone full buffed. The 3 places left in the squad are used for DDs, healers, cata pullers, depending of what the squad purpose is. NEVER underestimate the power of a full buffed squad. Me as a wizard I’m easy pray for mostly everything as long as I’m not buffed. Give me full buffs and at almost 7k HP and 10k pdef/mdef I can go against anything. Put 3 wizards like me in a squad (or archers) and help with a BM stun+HF and 20-30 ppl can die in under 6 seconds. DDs are squishie without buffs. Give them buffs and you make them the worst nightmare on a TW field.
Equinox way to defeat Calamity was to just plain and simple out-DD them. At one moment I think Equinox was able to put on the field about 25 heavy DDs (wizards and archers 95+) and if I’m not mistaking at least 3 of them had heavily refined tank8 on them. At that point NO ONE in CALAMITY had rank8. NO ONE. That was the turning point in TW. That was when Calamity was able to get about 9-12 heavy DDs in TW and Equinox was able to fork out twice as much. Unfortunately some of them left to Raging Tide, some get banned for stupid reasons, some just got bored and left so Equinox firepower and TW attendance decreased dramatically to the point they started to lose again.

Yeah, wall of text, and I'm sure Mizou will QQ about it ( Hi there pal).

Calamity is a war machine, and to beat it you need another war machine, that's better organized and with more firepower. And to win , you need both, cause only one won't be enough to beat them.

Q.Q Wall of text, gimme sage BIDS for compensation!

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Thinkalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No wonder Cala dominates. Look at all the **** factions that are formed, dividing all the high lvld players, leaving the lesser lvls behind. How the hell are you supposed to get more of a fighting chance when you have idiots like "Slaughter" clanhopping trying to take some members away from other factions ? And when they join him, he boots them right after.

wanna post a reply to me yet? or you just gonna accuse and run?

once again mods/admins, please don't edit

No excuse for not reading my question now

Lightaine - Dreamweaver

Lol @ Axes part.

Abominus - Sanctuary

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Good Causes? Really? And what is a better cause to you, than my spending my money, for my enjoyment?

I already pay taxes that allow welfare scabs to live without having to work for what they get, seems to me I am already supporting a so-called 'good cause' there.

Do "gods work"? Why? Can't god do it himself?

Help people who revile the United States... that is until a disaster strikes them? Not a chance.

Help some pathetic drunkard to far gone in his cups to do more than crawl to a soup kitchen and beg for scraps? I'd rather cut off my own balls with a dull knife.

Sorry, If something is 'worthy' of my money, it gets it, but 'good causes' don't rate that in my mind.

~Saitada

The venom you spewed here explains so much. And to think when you recruit people you use words like "relaxed" and "mature" in your descriptions. I am personally well off financially, but people who find themselves on government assistance and who have substance abuse problems aren't all "scabs" and "pathetic drunkards". You'd be surprised how many good, and oftentimes hardworking people find themselves in those unfortunate circumstances, for whatever reason. You shouldn't be so quick to elevate yourself above them, because you never know when circumstances may lead you there. My father used to tell me, "Be kind to everyone on your way up...because you will see them all again on your way down".

Bebisito - Dreamweaver

Aside from the amount of wealth (i.e. equips/skills) they keep accumulating from being on the top for so long, it's experience. None of the "smaller" guilds can last more than 5 minutes against them. You can learn from 5 minutes, sure, but not enough to make you able to stand up to such a force.
So you get your PVP crazy people who just leave whatever guild they decide to use until they're high enough to get in "the best."

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

I don't know about that. with about 20 people shattered lasted longer than some bigger factions

Auldwulf - Dreamweaver

I also play Dreamweaver, and am of the opinion that Calamity"s streangths aren't because of money, you can throw all the cash you want around, it's not going to replace the fact that this group is organized, plans well, and has a good understanding of teamwork, period. Thats what seperates the wheat from the chaff, not money.

And I certainly am not so proud that I can't say that it's an honor to play on the same server with them. Maybe the rest of us can take a good example of what winners really are, by their actions, and not words.

Congratulations Calamity, you guys are heros in my book! b:cool

Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver

No. The reason Calamity keeps on winning is because there is only one viable faction attacking them. Sure, Dynasty is attacking them now.

But after watching the mass exodus of high leveled players from Dynasty after losing just once to EQ goes to show some players' true colors. When I asked one high leveled player why he left Dynasty, he simply replied "They're weak."

A faction made up of mercenaries is not going to take defeat well. Anyway, I'm rambling. Ummmm. Oh yeah. Dynasty's morale is **** now and they have low TW attendance. The only faction atm that can stand against Calamity is Equinox.

If the factions of Dreamweaver would get their act together, then perhaps the TW map would look more interesting. But sadly, lethargy and cowardice are the main reason Dreamweaver fails so hard. Calamity is far from being a juggernaut.

What would be interesting to see is the TW map in 6 months or maybe even 10 months when smaller factions have grown. However, not much has changed since when I started playing so I guess Dreamweaver will just wallow in it's own miasma of stagnation.

Auldwulf - Dreamweaver

Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No....
If the factions of Dreamweaver would get their act together, then perhaps the TW map would look more interesting. But sadly, lethargy and cowardice are the main reason Dreamweaver fails so hard. Calamity is far from being a juggernaut.

Please refer to the part of my post that says, "Organized, plans well, and has a good understanding of teamwork". : )

Peace...b:cool

Redmenace - Heavens Tear

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Good Causes? Really? And what is a better cause to you, than my spending my money, for my enjoyment?

I already pay taxes that allow welfare scabs to live without having to work for what they get, seems to me I am already supporting a so-called 'good cause' there.

Do "gods work"? Why? Can't god do it himself?

Help people who revile the United States... that is until a disaster strikes them? Not a chance.

Help some pathetic drunkard to far gone in his cups to do more than crawl to a soup kitchen and beg for scraps? I'd rather cut off my own balls with a dull knife.

Sorry, If something is 'worthy' of my money, it gets it, but 'good causes' don't rate that in my mind.

~Saitada

Wow. Just Wow.

RedMenace

\sadly takes Sai off the list of people he once thought were human
\\does not even begin to understand how a TW dominance thread spawns a Libertarian frothing fit
\\\will fight for your right to do so, but does not have to agree with the content

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The only faction atm that can stand against Calamity is Equinox.

They've said we at vanquish "might be crazy enough" to take them on. I personally would love to.

And a nice plug on saying only the faction you're in has a chance. I hope we prove you wrong.

Saitada - Sanctuary

Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wow. Just Wow.

RedMenace

\sadly takes Sai off the list of people he once thought were human
\\does not even begin to understand how a TW dominance thread spawns a Libertarian frothing fit
\\\will fight for your right to do so, but does not have to agree with the content

Maybe you should read what I said again.

I don't believe in helping people who can't be assed to try and help themselves (welfare scabs that don't even TRY to improve themselves, get a job, get re-educated etc.).

I don't believe in helping churches divest their parishioners from their money under the guise of 'doing gods work' (he created the universe, if he wants something done, I am fair certain he is capable of doing it).

I don't believe in helping countries that do nothing but bad mouth the US, that is until they need the USA to help them. Sorry, they can help themselves after talking all that smack in my mind.

I don't believe in helping drunks and drug addicts because having been one (an addict), I know damn well that you can't help them until they start helping themselves.

I donate plenty of my time to things I feel are worthy of it. But I sure as hell won't to things I don't think are worthy of it. If that bothers you so much that you 'think I am not human', Oh well, it just shows that some people think everyone 'must' think the same way or they are somehow 'bad'.

In my eyes, that is simply a fail way of thinking, and makes me think less of you for it.

Have a nice day. Cupcake.

~Saitada

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Maybe you should read what I said again.

I don't believe in helping people who can't be assed to try and help themselves (welfare scabs that don't even TRY to improve themselves, get a job, get re-educated etc.).

I don't believe in helping churches divest their parishioners from their money under the guise of 'doing gods work' (he created the universe, if he wants something done, I am fair certain he is capable of doing it).

I don't believe in helping countries that do nothing but bad mouth the US, that is until they need the USA to help them. Sorry, they can help themselves after talking all that smack in my mind.

I don't believe in helping drunks and drug addicts because having been one (an addict), I know damn well that you can't help them until they start helping themselves.

I donate plenty of my time to things I feel are worthy of it. But I sure as hell won't to things I don't think are worthy of it. If that bothers you so much that you 'think I am not human', Oh well, it just shows that some people think everyone 'must' think the same way or they are somehow 'bad'.

In my eyes, that is simply a fail way of thinking, and makes me think less of you for it.

Have a nice day. Cupcake.

~Saitada

Why are you making so much sense lately b:chuckle. Everything your saying is true.
Those who disagree are to worried to step out of the crowd and say how they really feel.

Saitada - Sanctuary

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why are you making so much sense lately b:chuckle. Everything your saying is true.
Those who disagree are to worried to step out of the crowd and say how they really feel.

Oh Gods, I've been drinking to much ermmm... 'Coffee' and I am starting to think logically again!!!

*hides the booze*

*whistles innocently* Nothing to see here.

~S

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh Gods, I've been drinking to much ermmm... 'Coffee' and I am starting to think logically again!!!

*hides the booze*

*whistles innocently* Nothing to see here.

~S

Coffee is the common thing here and the same line of thinking although you word it much more effectively b:laugh.

Want to think logically people? Drink coffee b:victory.