boku 1euro = 100 zhen=1gold?fail

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Myrtle - Raging Tide
Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Cash Shop Huddle
b:cute hello!
i just tryed the new payment methode called Boku!
i payed 1 euro → 60 zhen that`s soo unfair
so if i pay 50 euros i get 30 golds
that`s even wierd !
so please tell me if boku option will bcm 1euro-100zhen-1gold
cuz im sure no1 will spend 50 euro for 30 gold that`s rap!ng !
ty ! i would like a gm response ty !
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Myrtle - Raging Tide wrote: »
    b:cute hello!
    i just tryed the new payment methode called Boku!
    i payed 1 euro → 60 zhen that`s soo unfair
    so if i pay 50 euros i get 30 golds
    that`s even wierd !
    so please tell me if boku option will bcm 1euro-100zhen-1gold
    cuz im sure no1 will spend 50 euro for 30 gold that`s rap!ng !
    ty ! i would like a gm response ty !

    no, its based off how much the euro is to the dollar.

    1 dollar = 1 gold
    so 1 dollar in euros = 1 gold.
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  • Lunnark - Sanctuary
    Lunnark - Sanctuary Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Actually the currecy is
    1euro=1,3dollars (roughly)

    I agree to the OP - it is a rip off.
    I think that is fair that you should pay more for a simpler way to achive zhen -by phone- but that would have meant arounf 10% more not almost double as it is now.
    Maybe they will revise the BAKU system, and more important - extend the the number of countries this is available to.
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  • VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver
    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no, its based off how much the euro is to the dollar.

    1 dollar = 1 gold
    so 1 dollar in euros = 1 gold.

    That doesn't make sense since 1 euro is worth more than 1 dollar last time I checked.
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense since 1 euro is worth more than 1 dollar last time I checked.

    It hasn't changed, the euro is still stronger than the dollar. Right now, 10 dollars = ~7.50 euros.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Eh O_o

    I use euros too, but when I charged zen via credit card last, it cost something like 39 euro for 50gold. Euro is worth more that the dollar with current exchange rates.
  • VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver
    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    It hasn't changed, the euro is still stronger than the dollar. Right now, 10 dollars = ~7.50 euros.

    Damn, the dollar is quickly losing it's power. I still remember when the dollar was only worth slightly less than the euro (damn EU for ganging up on us b:angry).
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Eh O_o

    I use euros too, but when I charged zen via credit card last, it cost something like 39 euro for 50gold. Euro is worth more that the dollar with current exchange rates.

    Must have been a glitch or something that screwed over OP. Either that or, like Lunnark said, they're making people pay for the 'convenience' of buying gold through the phone.
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    I think he was referring to the normal credit card system, not Boku. I cashed a little too, I used euros and it was about the same amount for the same quantity of gold.

    And yes, we're owning the damn dollar!! :D
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  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    yes but still 50 euros own 50 dolars so y some1 who pay with 50 dolars get 50 gold and im paying 50 euro and get 30 gold via phone!!
    thats unfair!!b:cry
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  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Myrtle - Raging Tide wrote: »
    yes but still 50 euros own 50 dolars so y some1 who pay with 50 dolars get 50 gold and im paying 50 euro and get 30 gold via phone!!
    thats unfair!!b:cry

    because you're paying thru the phone. use a credit card and avoid this problem!
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  • Satiah - Heavens Tear
    Satiah - Heavens Tear Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    I pay via phone too, but at these rates:
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    me confoosed
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  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Satiah - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I pay via phone too, but at these rates:
    2r3j8le.png

    from where are u?
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  • Satiah - Heavens Tear
    Satiah - Heavens Tear Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    germany b:cute
  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    im from romania!
    here is mine! capturecrancomplet17022.jpg
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Phone costs much?

    If you call to america from europe, that costs some money on it's own. I'd gues you have to pay that
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  • orinj
    orinj Posts: 460 admin
    edited February 2010
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    hi there.

    allow me to elaborate on this situation.

    -- CAUTION: long-winded wall-of-text reply below --

    perfect world and paymo (boku) are partners. if the partnership could solely exist between these two groups, there wouldn't be any issue. sadly, this is not the case. because the payment system operates via mobile phone, the telco-carriers are involved in this transaction. the telcos actually take a HUGE chunk of the payment you make. while i would love to disclose the actual numbers, NDA prevents me from doing so. but if you look at numbers and crunch the math, you should be able to figure it out for yourself.

    anyway, i digress.

    the telcos take a big chunk and because of this, the net revenue that PWE receives from the transaction is very little. as a matter of fact, PWE actually gives out more ZEN than it receives as part of the transaction. so every paymo/boku transaction that takes place actually has bonus ZEN attached to it. does that make sense?

    and because we are bound by a higher power (parent company ^_^), we can only give out so much ZEN for a given amount of revenue.

    so trust me, we'd love to be able to give you a 1:1 near ratio, but it is quite honestly out of our hands.

    however, for american users on verizon, a new payment method will be added in the coming months by the name of BilltoMobile. BilltoMobile is also a mobile-phone based payment, but because of the new technology it utilizes, doesn't require a giant chunk of the revenue to be removed; thus ensuring a more or less 1:1 ration. but more on that later.

    i hope that addresses the issue.

    if you have any more concerns, drop me a PM.

    thanks!

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  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    oh ty 4 response!! b:cute
    but i still want it in rom like in germany--25euro:27gold... not 50euro:30 gold --romaniab:cry
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    use paypal instead of the ridiculous phone?
  • Sezan - Harshlands
    Sezan - Harshlands Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Ok I see boku but another few mobile payments which PW can get are

    DAO Pay , ZONG and paymo, I aint sure how much they would take from each PW transaction b:surrender

    P,s I see paymo aswell ? lol


    300 ZEN 2.5 GBP
    360 ZEN 3 GBP
    420 ZEN 3.5 GBP
    480 ZEN 4 GBP
    540 ZEN 4.5 GBP
    600 ZEN 5 GBP
    900 ZEN 8 GBP
    1200 ZEN 10 GBP
    1500 ZEN 12 GBP
    1800 ZEN 14 GBP
    2100 ZEN 17 GBP
    2400 ZEN 19 GBP
    2700 ZEN 21 GBP

    Thats really bad =( I'd love to charge with mobile aswell :(
  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    sezan !! yes agree! i want so bad to charge via phone ! but i must pay 1 euro=60 zhen
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  • DXBWarrior - Harshlands
    DXBWarrior - Harshlands Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    b:surrendero.o i have a problem with phone payment method too >.> i cant click confirm cuz its not there :o try'd to restart and chack and its the same since morning...b:surrender
  • DXBWarrior - Harshlands
    DXBWarrior - Harshlands Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    =/ no reply b:sad
  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    idk we are speaking here about rate!b:shutup
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  • Limeball - Heavens Tear
    Limeball - Heavens Tear Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Americans always get the better side of things .__.;

    I think i'll stick with paypal from now on, considering the zen transfer rate and the fact that boku hardly works properly most of the time. Would have just been nice to have an instant payment for once instead of waiting 5 day+ for paypal -.-;;
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  • orinj
    orinj Posts: 460 admin
    edited February 2010
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    hi again,

    actually all those other mobile-payment options operate on the same principle. zong, dao, allopass, etc. all are the same; and boku is actually the same company paymo (brand change).

    even if we partnered with let's say zong, we wouldn't be able to get past that horrible revenue rate. =(

    really sorry about that.

    i know it seems unfair, but we provide mobile payments as an option to those that have absolutely no way of paying. if you do have the means, use paypal or moneybookers. you get a 1:1 ratio and it's quick and easy (unless you use e-checks, cuz that would take like 5 to 7 days).

    if credit cards aren't your thing, you can always go the prepaid card route or paybycash.

    sorry, we do our best to cater to the mass audience but sometimes fall a little short.

    cheers,

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  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    i have no card !
    i cant buy precards in romania!
    phone is the ultimate thing 4 me to charge my acc! >(
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  • DXBWarrior - Harshlands
    DXBWarrior - Harshlands Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    if u cant pay with cards or credit card , just deal with it , probably its good for ppl who has no credit card or a shop card just if u want to cash shop - Deal with it please -
  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    DXBWarrior - Harshlands wrote: »
    if u cant pay with cards or credit card , just deal with it , probably its good for ppl who has no credit card or a shop card just if u want to cash shop - Deal with it please -
    lol i love pwi and i wanna buy golds!! and i wont deal with it till i wont charge my accont via phone !!with an acceptable rate!b:sadb:sad
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  • orinj
    orinj Posts: 460 admin
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    Myrtle - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lol i love pwi and i wanna buy golds!! and i wont deal with it till i wont charge my accont via phone !!with an acceptable rate!b:sadb:sad

    have you tried paybycash? according to their site, they have some alternate payment methods in romania. this is what i found:

    http://www.paybycash.com/options/index.php?country=RO

    thanks,

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  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    here is paysafecard but in my zone i didnt found any shops!
    and pay by phone is kinda my last option!
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