Potentially Awesome Psychic Build Endgame?

Pinball_Map - Heavens Tear · February 2010

NOTE: Thought I'd make a separate thread about this instead of posting in another thread like I did yesterday....

Well oki here's a potential build I thought up of (Expensive of course lol):

Also don't flame me cuz there might be something I could be missing or didn't understand so plz keep that in mind....Anyways...

There are 7 types of gears that can have 4 sockets embued, so why not embue them all with 28 Defense +1 shards?

Think about it. It'll work very well with both Voodoos.

Black Voodoo MAX reduces Defense Level By 11, and with the shards equipped it'll be compensated, hence giving you still +17 Defense and +22 ATK lvl.

White Voodoo MAX increases Defense Level by 66 (according to ecatomb), 66+28 = 94 (Maybe 96 if you're able to put defense shards in weapon). Now correct me if I'm wrong plz but I am thinking that w/e damage you take has been reduced by 96% (unless opponent has ATK level shards or something to make the difference). That imo right there is a super tank build. If what I'm thinking is correct, then that means you are the ultimate meat shield (that will fail miserably to get aggro lol) BUT you can be useful in TW by manipulating the opponents and whatnot with Diminished or Empowered Vigor...or you could prolly use the Catapault and tank everything/Soul of Vengeance/Stun/or w/e u think.

I dunno, I could be COMPLETELY wrong but this is just a hypothesis. Someone of better/higher knowledge of this game plz confirm that this can be a very good potential build

Tried my best to help out a good Psychic build.
Oh and I apologize beforehand if this has been mentioned but I thought of this idea up completely off the top of my head.

beastboyisbeast · February 2010

Unless you have $1,000 or A LOT of time this is not going to happen. Sometimes i fantasize about the amazing gems I could socket with xD.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · February 2010

Its a pretty nice idea if you want to be offensive all the time. You can also try the +2 defense level items.

I noticed that black voodoo -def level is lower with blessings.

Pinball_Map - Heavens Tear · February 2010

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Its a pretty nice idea if you want to be offensive all the time. You can also try the +2 defense level items.

I noticed that black voodoo -def level is lower with blessings.

Well I was more interested in the defensive aspect of that build. And now that you've mentioned the other important belt/necklace gears that adds ATK/DEF +1, you can potentially become even more of an indestructible tank....but only a tank b:chuckle

+98 Defense level b:shocked

And if ATK/DEF does not affect the Soul of _______s then that means you can become a very scary support/disruptive class, especially in TW.

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear · February 2010

These idea actually already mentioned by some people. b:laugh
But the chance to reach that end game was kinda small and we also need lots of cash to reach it.

Antiseptic - Harshlands · February 2010

It seems pretty doable actually since +1 def level shards are cheap compared to g9+ citrines/garnets (Only 4m in cat shops, 3m if you bargain with them). The only problem is crafting/finding 4 socket 9x gear. I wish there was a real world comparison between the def lvl sharded gear compared to a garnet/cit build to see which one would be more worth it.

Pinball_Map - Heavens Tear · February 2010

Cool, but here's my question. Let's say if I were to gett DEF lvl +100 does that mean I am completely immune (0 damage) to every attack OR I just have twice as much defense from my gear?

Cuz this is the description of Defense Levels:

For each Defense Level point you have over Target's Attack Level, you take 1% less damage.

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

6 pieces of armor with 3 sockets each is pretty attainable without cash shopping

u could get 18 defence level pretty easily

18+66=84 defense level

with a charm u would be pretty much unkillable in 1v1 even with 84 defense level

if you grab some def level items and maybe are lucky ebeough to get 4 sockets and one ro two pieces of armor u could get 90 def level making u even more unkillable

the downside of this is that when u are not using white voodoo u will be really squishy because
more defense level added = exponential increase is survavbility

thus small amount of def level eg 10-20
will barely make u tanker

defense level does scale linearly in terms of survavbility

eg u have 100 hp
person deals 100 damage

if u have 0 def level u die in 1 hit

if u have 50 def level u die in 2 hits

if u have 80 def level u die in 5 hits

if u have 90 def level u die in 10 hits

id u have 99 def level u die in 100 hits

volst · February 2010

Don't know... def level is pretty useless in pve. Mobs don't have attack levels.

From what I can tell in tw, pet flesh ream still wrecks you up even with white voodoo on.

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

volst wrote: »

Don't know... def level is pretty useless in pve. Mobs don't have attack levels.

From what I can tell in tw, pet flesh ream still wrecks you up even with white voodoo on.

i dont think DOTs are effected my attack and def level

for example psychic DOTs do not lose damage when white voodoo is on

i think it is because DOTs actually count as debuffs rather than damage moves

psychics shouldnt have problem with nix

psychic will + genie skills skills + knock back should keep u alive

Shadowvzs - Lost City · February 2010

Magikrap - Lost City wrote: »

i dont think DOTs are effected my attack and def level

for example psychic DOTs do not lose damage when white voodoo is on

i think it is because DOTs actually count as debuffs rather than damage moves

psychics shouldnt have problem with nix

psychic will + genie skills skills + knock back should keep u alive

dots do low dmg anyway at 90+

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »

dots do low dmg anyway at 90+

psychic dots have 200% wep damage modifer on them and good flat spell damage adds

they have good damage

its just that u only have 2 dots and they both have 15 sec CD and last for 15 secs

even though the damage is good you wont be killing anyone due to the long cooldown

white voodoo+ around 20 def level from gear + charm = unkillable psychic in 1v1

Joshcja - Sanctuary · February 2010

*posted the same thing 2 months ago*

and you forgot the blessing

a psy can get 100 def levels in an instance with DOD sharded armor

also there are def level +2 gems out now i beleive so if your really rich your basicly unkillable

psys and sins need to be cashshoped for endgame viability anyways

low channel high cast = little boost from - channel ear

low weapon adds high static ads = little bonus from refines

psys need high refines for def and soulforce as well as attack level def level gems to take full advanatage of voodoo

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

*posted the same thing 2 months ago*

and you forgot the blessing

a psy can get 100 def levels in an instance with DOD sharded armor

also there are def level +2 gems out now i beleive so if your really rich your basicly unkillable

psys and sins need to be cashshoped for endgame viability anyways

low channel high cast = little boost from - channel ear

low weapon adds high static ads = little bonus from refines

psys need high refines for def and soulforce as well as attack level def level gems to take full advanatage of voodoo

low weapon adds?

yeh this is true

but

i use spark lots on my psy for pvp

and spark depends completely on weapon adds

and spark + glacial shards + sandburst blast = dead people

in a TW

note: refines also help ure mattack which is a factor in all spells

Pinball_Map - Heavens Tear · February 2010

Good stuff so far. More questions to ensure this build's validity! b:shutup

1. Can Venos Purge and Archer/BM Soul Shatter Voodoo Skills? (In other words, can they get rid of your Voodoo buffs?) EDIT: Yes they can.

2. Does Soul of Vengeance work in PK/TW? Seeing as how Bramble doesn't work in PK.

3. And with such a low ATK level, what can we use to compensate our damage? Soulforce related attacks? Triple Sparks?

Shadowvzs - Lost City · February 2010

Magikrap - Lost City wrote: »

low weapon adds?

yeh this is true

but

i use spark lots on my psy for pvp

and spark depends completely on weapon adds

and spark + glacial shards + sandburst blast = dead people

in a TW

note: refines also help ure mattack which is a factor in all spells

but if u use white voodoo then with 3rd spark still sucks the dmg output, its ok u are not killable but u cant kill too, max with dot but to dot the spark burst dont ahve effect so if somebody have low hp maybe die by physic dot or from soulburn but no other way, ok still better than other defensive skills but idk will be changed or no.

ElderSig - Dreamweaver · February 2010

All I know is that if you can't become immune to damage no matter how high your defense lvl. I can't find the post but spoons said somewhere that there are built-in hard caps on things like that to prevent damage immunity.

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »

but if u use white voodoo then with 3rd spark still sucks the dmg output, its ok u are not killable but u cant kill too, max with dot but to dot the spark burst dont ahve effect so if somebody have low hp maybe die by physic dot or from soulburn but no other way, ok still better than other defensive skills but idk will be changed or no.

i wasnt saying that u have white voodoo on when using sparked aoes

white voodoo is something which u put on when you need to surive

eg in a TW u see 2 bms approaching u and u dont have any chi and genie os out of stamina

having 80-90 def level will stop u from dying until help arrives/ there stuns lock finishes

BoozeLover - Dreamweaver · February 2010

^1 BM can stunlock, what would 2 do ofc its around 1 minute of stunchains till voodoo wears off its likely that backup is there OR BM(s) can switch to purge spear and wish for it to activate removing white voodoo OR just use genie skill

however idea is pretty good..however you might have to sell your own mother to get thatb:surrender

MagicHamsta - Lost City · February 2010

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

All I know is that if you can't become immune to damage no matter how high your defense lvl. I can't find the post but spoons said somewhere that there are built-in hard caps on things like that to prevent damage immunity.

yep me saw that post as well that there be supposed built in game mechanics that prevents one from becoming immune to damage.

o.O
of course me am just assuming spoons tested it out with 100 defense level himself or something.
b:chuckle

Joshcja - Sanctuary · February 2010

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

yep me saw that post as well that there be supposed built in game mechanics that prevents one from becoming immune to damage.

o.O
of course me am just assuming spoons tested it out with 100 defense level himself or something.
b:chuckle

intristing...you know what that cap is and if its affected by reduction skills or debuffs such as the geni skill dragonfire?

Magikrap - Lost City · February 2010

BoozeLover - Dreamweaver wrote: »

^1 BM can stunlock, what would 2 do ofc its around 1 minute of stunchains till voodoo wears off its likely that backup is there OR BM(s) can switch to purge spear and wish for it to activate removing white voodoo OR just use genie skill

however idea is pretty good..however you might have to sell your own mother to get thatb:surrender

its actually quite cheap

diamonds of dragon are 4-5 mil

white voodoo lasts for 10 mins

if you can have 2 BMs foccusing you for 10 mins straight in a TW you have put your team at great advantage

if u get get purged by veno that is one purge which the barb does not have to take

switching to purge spear is unlikely, most bms dont have it

probably better do get an archer win heaven shatterer to attack

hoping for purge

either way you are drawing focus to yourself and still taking ages to kill

which is putting ure team at great advantage in a TW

u can always break bm stunlock with genie skills and pots as well

BoozeLover - Dreamweaver · February 2010

Sry checked Ecatomb about duration of Voodoo, don't know myself where I pulled that 1minute

White Voodoo lvl10:
Increase your Defense Level by 66.0.
Reduces your Attack Level by 99.
Lasts 15 minutes.

so Diamond of Dragon adds 1 def lvl(dunno)
you need 34 of them to get 100def lvl aka "immortality" not proven

34x4-5mil = 136-170mil which is in my scale lots of coins also you gotta get many sockets to your armor

Joshcja - Sanctuary · February 2010

BoozeLover - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sry checked Ecatomb about duration of Voodoo, don't know myself where I pulled that 1minute

White Voodoo lvl10:
Increase your Defense Level by 66.0.
Reduces your Attack Level by 99.
Lasts 15 minutes.

so Diamond of Dragon adds 1 def lvl(dunno)
you need 34 of them to get 100def lvl aka "immortality" not proven

34x4-5mil = 136-170mil which is in my scale lots of coins also you gotta get many sockets to your armor

with just DOD and 24 armor spots you will also need cube neck and belt

the G16 ones with +5 attack def levels

wich take warsoul mats me thinks >.<

thats where the price tag comes from

Pinball_Map - Heavens Tear · February 2010

Another reason why this build could be viable:

Frenzy Genie Skill b:laugh

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