Sage/Demon Last Words

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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Softie - Harshlands wrote: »
    can someone sticky jus one of these sage vs. demon threads we have 2 many b:surrender

    2 new per week, is that too many?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    there is only 15 sage wizards on Dreamweaver b:avoid

    Who is there? I'm sure there's more. Me, you, Xegeth, Legacci, Ursa, SurferGirl, mytwen, Elanya, Misqu, Krelian, Stormyy, Satchiko, Shadowfire, Laidrom, Erving, CamelToe, Witchikelz (courtesy of Stormyy), and 1 or 2 random ones I've squadded with yet can't remeber their names.

    to be continued. . .
  • _Leiian_ - Heavens Tear
    _Leiian_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    More -chan and more +crit means more dmges, anyways.
    But all wizzies pure mag I know, wanna go sage.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Who is there? I'm sure there's more. Me, you, Xegeth, Legacci, Ursa, SurferGirl, mytwen, Elanya, Misqu, Krelian, Stormyy, Satchiko, Shadowfire, Laidrom, Erving, CamelToe, Witchikelz (courtesy of Stormyy), and 1 or 2 random ones I've squadded with yet can't remeber their names.

    to be continued. . .

    Ursa and Elanya quit i believe.

    Chillum, Amounet, and one other wiz recently went sage.

    There is a lot of new ones.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ursa and Elanya quit i believe.

    Chillum, Amounet, and one other wiz recently went sage.

    There is a lot of new ones.

    Do you know why they quit?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    _Leiian_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    More -chan and more +crit means more dmges, anyways.
    But all wizzies pure mag I know, wanna go sage.
    Speak for yourself.

    As I've said before, there are only 2 reasons you go pure magic.

    1. You like to die.
    2. You have uber gear.

    And FFS, demon DOES NOT chant faster, disregarding their spark. You realize that sage has -channeling on some of their skills too, right?
    ●Wizard (Male) - Fasditious and pretentious, carries the arrogance of intellectual superiority. Feels the need to remind everyone of his world-ending power, but grows a little manic and unhinged when he finally is allowed to unleash it. "Ahh-hahahahaha!! NOW YOU ALL BURN!!!!"
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Do you know why they quit?

    Elanya didnt have time to play anymore and Ursa got bored with the game.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Astoru - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Speak for yourself.

    As I've said before, there are only 2 reasons you go pure magic.

    1. You like to die.
    2. You have uber gear.

    And FFS, demon DOES NOT chant faster, disregarding their spark. You realize that sage has -channeling on some of their skills too, right?

    sage have less -chan skill and got -ressist/+vigor, so demon got more speed from spark,buff, more skill with -channeling.

    i am pure mag and withou uber gear, i like it indifferent i am 1 hit sometimes but i love the pure way with dd's (like pure dex archer, pure mag wizz etc)
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Astoru - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Speak for yourself.

    As I've said before, there are only 2 reasons you go pure magic.

    1. You like to die.
    2. You have uber gear.

    And FFS, demon DOES NOT chant faster, disregarding their spark. You realize that sage has -channeling on some of their skills too, right?

    im pure mag and my gear is far from uber.


    In TW, i was tanking 5 BMs, they were stupid Bms who didnt bother to stun me while i had dragons breath up, but nevertheless, i didnt die. Even with a veno and an 9x archer hitting me, it took a while for me to drop.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Elanya didnt have time to play anymore and Ursa got bored with the game.

    O, I see. I think I will not be bored soon. I have so many goals to reach and then huge KO list of players which I must kill.b:laugh
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    O, I see. I think I will not be bored soon. I have so many goals to reach and then huge KO list of players which I must kill.b:laugh

    Well Ursa finished all his goals and he isnt too big on PvP, so he found no reason to play the game.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Well Ursa finished all his goals and he isnt too big on PvP, so he found no reason to play the game.

    It sad anyway. She/he had some good advices.b:pleased
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Shadowfire - Dreamweaver
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Who is there? I'm sure there's more. Me, you, Xegeth, Legacci, Ursa, SurferGirl, mytwen, Elanya, Misqu, Krelian, Stormyy, Satchiko, Shadowfire, Laidrom, Erving, CamelToe, Witchikelz (courtesy of Stormyy), and 1 or 2 random ones I've squadded with yet can't remeber their names.

    to be continued. . .

    Lunatris is sage also, and I think Clintos is sage as well.
  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    DWP mages suck b:scorn

    *waits to get brownflamed*
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No.. no.. There's a few of them on there that can one shot my poorly geared ****. But yeah the others are easy to kill, one or two shots for me. b:beg
  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    never heard of a DWP server. just DW. lol. anyway, well i really don't care how this thread goes since i mean seriously, do we really need another sage vs demon or AA vs LA thread?
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i cnt w8 for my wiz to be a sage wizzie everything will burnb:angry
    Collector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle
  • Magikrap - Lost City
    Magikrap - Lost City Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lost city pokemans > DWP pokemans . IJS.
  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    yeah LCP pokemans have rabies though. (note the extra P)
  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    yeah LCP pokemans have rabies though. (note the extra P)

    DWP - Dreamweaver Port -.- Things get stuck in your head once you play this game for over a year.

    Lost City Port sounds kinda hot, you gotta admit.

    .. Talk about way off topic
    /Thread?
  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ursa and Elanya quit i believe.

    Chillum, Amounet, and one other wiz recently went sage.

    There is a lot of new ones.

    Slowlight turned sage the same time as I did.

    PS - Mizzy remembers me b:dirty b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Chillum - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Slowlight turned sage the same time as I did.

    PS - Mizzy remembers me b:dirty b:chuckle

    umm...ya...sure...ok....sooo...gotta go...
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    anwynd wrote: »
    i cnt w8 for my wiz to be a sage wizzie everything will burnb:angry

    don't you mean freeze?
    b:puzzled
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  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    umm...ya...sure...ok....sooo...gotta go...

    b:cry b:chuckle

    I've been sage for about a week and a half now and my inital thoughts put simply: I really like it.

    Before I plumped for Sage I have to say I was to-ing and fro-ing between Sage and Demon.

    Master Li's Technique makes such a big difference. I think for me that was the tipping point. Before I heard about it I thought Sage Pyrogram was the only Chi building skill and when I heard that it only had a 20% chance of generating extra chi, I wasn't particularly impressed.

    Now that I have Sage Pyrogram, if that was the only chi building skill I had, I would definetly be unimpressed. The chance of the extra chi seems, to me, to be lower than 20%.

    The extra chi and the 20% MP regen seems to me to be off set by the higher MP cost of Sage skills.

    The increased damage however is very very nice though. Sage Pyro is hitting same to more than L10 Divine Pyrogram.

    The next L89 sage skill I want is Divine Pyrogram as combined with increased damage and reduction of fire resistance of target, makes the rest of my fire skills a lot more potent.

    As much as I like Sage, I think I would have been equally happy with Demon. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Once you choose one, embrace it's qualities and make the most of them in your play.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Chillum - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    b:cry b:chuckle

    I've been sage for about a week and a half now and my inital thoughts put simply: I really like it.

    Before I plumped for Sage I have to say I was to-ing and fro-ing between Sage and Demon.

    Master Li's Technique makes such a big difference. I think for me that was the tipping point. Before I heard about it I thought Sage Pyrogram was the only Chi building skill and when I heard that it only had a 20% chance of generating extra chi, I wasn't particularly impressed.

    Now that I have Sage Pyrogram, if that was the only chi building skill I had, I would definetly be unimpressed. The chance of the extra chi seems, to me, to be lower than 20%.

    The extra chi and the 20% MP regen seems to me to be off set by the higher MP cost of Sage skills.

    The increased damage however is very very nice though. Sage Pyro is hitting same to more than L10 Divine Pyrogram.

    The next L89 sage skill I want is Divine Pyrogram as combined with increased damage and reduction of fire resistance of target, makes the rest of my fire skills a lot more potent.

    As much as I like Sage, I think I would have been equally happy with Demon. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Once you choose one, embrace it's qualities and make the most of them in your play.

    sage pyro is pretty much like demon stone rain. If it happens, YAY! If it doesnt, FUUUUUUUUUU SAGE PYRO!!!!!!(i been known to yell that in faction chat).

    I just go with the flow and not really worry about it, but sage pyro is nice in TW when you are hitting cata barbs and building chi b:chuckle
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Irritate - Lost City
    Irritate - Lost City Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Pyro-Crown-Pyro-Chi skill/Gush and triple spark when possible with GE + WQ = never run out of mp.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Irritate - Lost City wrote: »
    Pyro-Crown-Pyro-Chi skill/Gush and triple spark when possible with GE + WQ = never run out of mp.

    actually this works well if you do

    pyro > d pyro > pyro > dpyro

    same exact effect but a bit slower, but if you have sage dpyro= b:dirtyultimate afk DDing!
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Magikrap - Lost City
    Magikrap - Lost City Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    pyro= demon

    gush= demon

    stone rain= sage

    divine pyro= demon

    glcial snare= demon

    sandstorm= demon

    force of will= ??? very close imo, kinda favouring demon / 3m aoe kinda useless ppl rarely bunch up like that

    wellspring quaff=??? who the **** uses this in PVP if you do demon effect is better but only last 15 secs

    dragon breath= sage

    emberstrom= demon

    masteries = sage

    bids= sage

    blade tempest = sage / who the **** uses a 4 sec channel move to cancel other ppls channeling

    mountain seize= sage

    shrink= sage

    spark= demon

    hailstron= demon

    crown of **** = LOL!!!!

    pitfall = demion

    earth barrier = demon
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Magikrap - Lost City wrote: »
    blade tempest = sage / who the **** uses a 4 sec channel move to cancel other ppls channeling

    ZMOGGASM! ME PREDICT THAT THEY WILL USE A SKILL 5.8 SECONDS IN THE FUTURE THAT ME HAS TO PREVENT IT'S CHANNELING! AND ME ARE RISKING A 50% CHANCE TO FAIL!
    b:shockedb:shockedb:shocked
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Ishmah - Sanctuary
    Ishmah - Sanctuary Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Blade Tempest, has zero channeling when used in conjunction with Essential Sutra.

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