why can't assasins be in squad?

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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I agree that, other than classes esential to fulfill a squad's role, no one should be left out. The flaming on this thread aside, why is it that people insist on bashing traditional DD classes on every sin thread? i mean, really...
  • Kouankyuuka - Heavens Tear
    Kouankyuuka - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I really did blacklist you for that 5-10 minutes because we need to wait for cleric's reply.

    however, you did not do anything more than just trying to irritate me, i took you down from blacklist.

    People deserves to be in perm blacklist are those who kills squads. this is my last reply on the blacklist thing.

    It was never against you in person nor class. It just more important to secure clerics and barbs first rather than damage dealers and i did advertise for mage at one point to tank the bosses and me tanking the mobs if necessary.
  • Olivassin - Heavens Tear
    Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I understand your position. It has been a missunderstanding only. Really, i'm not the kind of ppl you think i am. i hope i wasn't in your blacklist when i send my apologizes to you 10-20 minutes ago.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Me too. . . can't believe these amount of hate to new race. b:surrender
    If you meet some annoying player, that not mean the entire race or class is same. (they may just has a bad day, or bad mood, or people think negative things to much makes them seem bad)
    And since tideborn still new probably many pure newbie pick them to play.
    Btw, these was some hate that never lost. It still here today.
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    meh i dont like TBs in my bh squads mainly cause i got no idea how they work mainly sins are the ones i dont like in bh69 especially nob and pole physical aoes and because psyshics are just some kinda predictable magic DDs while sins are DDs in an entire new style
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

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  • Kamiller - Dreamweaver
    Kamiller - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Well I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything because I only got through the first page. I feel for you and sorry that happened to you. This was exactly what I mean when I said people should give the new class a break and all these people QQing on the forums isn't helping the TB. I honestly don't know what the problem is. The TB is just a new thing people can bytch about b:surrender
    If we were on the same server I would have no problem squading with you b:victory For the "Leader," she was an **** and I'm sure she didn't kick you because of having a friend coming along like that other person said. As for the spamming common chat on the platform.... EVERYONE does that when looking for a BH squad and commom chat has a minimal range so it's not like you're spamming the whole server. I'm a very laid back person and I try hard to just sit on the back burner but lately, reading these forums and seeing how people act in-game, I have been so disgusted and want to walk away from it because people are so damn rude and ignorant. I can also be sure there will be post's below mine who will be saying something nasty about what I had to say but who cares anymore. I won't walk away because I'm here to have fun and enjoy myself and I wont let people ruin that for me. Apologies for my QQing and trailing off topic b:chuckle anyways, just have fun for yourself and no one else and I hope things get easier for you.
  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    why must ppl discriminate based on race in games nowb:surrender
  • Kamiller - Dreamweaver
    Kamiller - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I find that Dreamweaver has very little discrimination against classes. I've never run into a squad who has unreasonable hate towards Sins.[/QUOTE]

    Dreamweaver FTW!! b:victory

    Maybe that's another reason why I can't understand all the hate towards the new class because I play on Dreamweaver and don't see this kind of thing happen. I have a Psy as my alt and never have a problem getting a squad so maybe you all should come join us in Dreamweaver b:pleased
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kamiller - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I find that Dreamweaver has very little discrimination against classes. I've never run into a squad who has unreasonable hate towards Sins.


    Yes, join the official cash shopper's server! Oracles FTW!!

    Now, really... Stop bashing other servers to make yours look good.

    And stop bashing other classes you hunchbacked fishies.

    Apparently only taking things to this level may make you realize saying something good about yourself doesn't imply putting others down...
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes, join the official cash shopper's server! Oracles FTW!!

    Now, really... Stop bashing other servers to make yours look good.

    And stop bashing other classes you hunchbacked fishies.

    Apparently only taking things to this level may make you realize saying something good about yourself doesn't imply putting others down...
    I dunno, but i think the purpose is not to bashing other server but to give info.
    Just because some of them bashing, not mean every fish bashing . . . b:shedtear
    This b:cry
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    BH squading is all about each person's need and availability

    I have been rainbow squads for BHs. I have also done archer + cleric duo squad for BH59s (a zeal genie works just fine or timing your escapes from the walkers for glutt) when finding other members was just too time consuming. Takes a little longer but heck its a lot less messy when you the person.

    Heck I remember going on a BH69 for pyro, with 3 BMs, 2 clerics and myself. Since the BMs were lower levels (70~71) and wanted to try tanking it so, I tanked pyro with 1 cleric BBing and the other DDing and healing when needed. That being said I dont think any class would be unwelcomed into a BH squad as long as they have a use for them.

    It all comes down to who is available at the time and how they would be helpful with the current squad setup. Also helps to inform them on how its intended to be done and listen to their ideas as well.

    I am currently making a sin and the damage is promising. However I dont like the idea of being hit that hard. Most of the higher lvl bosses seem to have harder melee damage than the ranged magic atks that they do. Also LA seems to provide more on elemental resists as compared to physical defense. So one definite problem i forsee when playing an assassin is getting hit hard when DDing up close (even with the skills they have). And if the sin opts to use a bow when tanking from range, then their dmg is reduced since they dont have the masteries that an archer has. So definitely it all comes down to what sort of a thing the squad is going for.
  • Scutillette - Sanctuary
    Scutillette - Sanctuary Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Did Yan the Traitor last night with 2 assassins, 2 clerics, a psychic, and a venomancer with no pet. The tank was a 76 assassin, and we did fine.

    Assassins may be a bit squishier than their heavy armor cousins, but they still do in a pinch. No need to refuse to group with someone based on class.
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kamiller - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I find that Dreamweaver has very little discrimination against classes. I've never run into a squad who has unreasonable hate towards Sins.

    Dreamweaver FTW!! b:victory

    Maybe that's another reason why I can't understand all the hate towards the new class because I play on Dreamweaver and don't see this kind of thing happen. I have a Psy as my alt and never have a problem getting a squad so maybe you all should come join us in Dreamweaver b:pleased[/QUOTE]

    Yea I don't relally see it either on my 83 sin. never been kicked atleast lmao xD. there is single people around who hate, but their problem ^^.
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • Kamiller - Dreamweaver
    Kamiller - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    "I find that Dreamweaver has very little discrimination against classes. I've never run into a squad who has unreasonable hate towards Sins."

    Is actually a quote made by Maocchi, I just some how managed to **** it up in my original post b:surrender
  • Aloque - Sanctuary
    Aloque - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Well I got to admit... I'm not to fond of purple skin color... b:laugh plus most assassins I've met are total jerks. I was helping one with this bh29 everything was going smoothly until we were at the end, when the barb I was with ventured to close to qingzi, anyways party wipe, and the sin ended up ditching us. Sooo I invited one of my good level 80 friends in her place o.-

    Qingzi was no more after that, but it sure gives me a bad opinion on alot of tideborns now b:surrender seeing as how this isn't the first time one (particular assassins) ended up ditching the squad b:sad not to mention a lot of them are very rude. b:angry
  • Foxgrit - Lost City
    Foxgrit - Lost City Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    anyone with an IQ higher than 50 can join. problem is that excludes 99% of people on this game
  • AngelOfLies - Heavens Tear
    AngelOfLies - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    well 1 time i was doing bh29 on my psy, had i think 2-3 sins, and a cleric, 1 person said this isnt going to work. so they just left, im like wtf? a sin tanking with a cleric + psys heals will be fine. i hate ppl like that, no barb and OMG ITS THE END OF THE WORLD. -_- i just did bh69 with a bm tanking pole, trust me not easy, but hell ive had a bm tank several times, why would letting a sin be any different on other bosses? other than ones u absolutely need a barb to tank that is. but with barbs going onto alts, other classes, or just down right leaving. getting them is harder and harder. so a good sin or bm tanking isnt a bad idea ppl. Angel out ^^
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  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The way I see it, is a sin being kicked out of squad without explanation for the reserved slot.

    And goes on to make a thread here to QQ about it. So even when the guy explains his position, people assumes that this sin was kicked out because of his a fish.

    Does that sums up everything?

    An Immature-Drama sin blows things out of proportion, while maybe I would say LEFT out parts of the conversation, so that people are able to assume things the way he had wanted?

    From the 'leader' response, it seems to me that this sin is annoying the hell out of people. So this Immature-Drama prone sin went on to the forums do set up a stage, with cries of unjust done to his 'class' or 'race'.

    Wow... this is so political. And on top of that, he even remembered to pm that 'leader' that he is leaving with his new-found squad.

    Then, the forums is turned into a beehive with his malicious intent.

    I applaud the drama that this sin has put out. b:bye
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The way I see it, is a sin being kicked out of squad without explanation for the reserved slot.

    And goes on to make a thread here to QQ about it. So even when the guy explains his position, people assumes that this sin was kicked out because of his a fish.

    Does that sums up everything?

    An Immature-Drama sin blows things out of proportion, while maybe I would say LEFT out parts of the conversation, so that people are able to assume things the way he had wanted?

    From the 'leader' response, it seems to me that this sin is annoying the hell out of people. So this Immature-Drama prone sin went on to the forums do set up a stage, with cries of unjust done to his 'class' or 'race'.

    Wow... this is so political. And on top of that, he even remembered to pm that 'leader' that he is leaving with his new-found squad.

    Then, the forums is turned into a beehive with his malicious intent.

    I applaud the drama that this sin has put out. b:bye

    this....
    the sin was the one at fault...and wasn't kicked for being a fishy....was kicked for the slot already being reserved and ignored since he be annoying....
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  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    AngelOfLies - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    well 1 time i was doing bh29 on my psy, had i think 2-3 sins, and a cleric, 1 person said this isnt going to work. so they just left, im like wtf? a sin tanking with a cleric + psys heals will be fine. i hate ppl like that, no barb and OMG ITS THE END OF THE WORLD. -_- i just did bh69 with a bm tanking pole, trust me not easy, but hell ive had a bm tank several times, why would letting a sin be any different on other bosses? other than ones u absolutely need a barb to tank that is. but with barbs going onto alts, other classes, or just down right leaving. getting them is harder and harder. so a good sin or bm tanking isnt a bad idea ppl. Angel out ^^

    Are you serious? For tanking needs, I would take a BM any day because after all, BM is using HA, has more HP and can last longer than a sin.

    It's just a higher risk that I will not make.

    What do you figure the sin will do when he decides he cannot tank it? He sure as hell won't die and lose exp. You will die in his place instead, so will the rest of the squad. Even if he is that noble, your turn will come soon enough too. b:chuckle
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    this....
    the sin was the one at fault...and wasn't kicked for being a fishy....was kicked for the slot already being reserved and ignored since he be annoying....
    b:surrender

    Thank you, my Magical little friend. b:victory

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