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  • beastboyisbeast
    beastboyisbeast Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Sins can get one shotted by every other class in the game?
    He's charging his lazer.



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  • Legendadry - Harshlands
    Legendadry - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    lulz this thread still going on? b:shocked. Yeah BM Aoe>sin. however 1v1 sin>BM. And chi not a problem w/ genie skill cloud eruption, never go to FC w/out it b:dirty
    I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender
  • BIaze_ - Heavens Tear
    BIaze_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    beastboyisbeast wrote: »
    Sins can get one shotted by every other class in the game?

    100% true

    but then again everyclass is 1 shot for each other giving the right conditions
  • CuteLilDemon - Lost City
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Sage BM can gains 50 per min + e/ marrow on, increase def u nub
  • Djaen - Lost City
    Djaen - Lost City Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Sins can get 2 sparks INSTANTLY + 50 every 15 sec+ 150 every 30 sec, can avoid magic , and has 2 teleports all b4 lv 89. your turn ...
  • Dhboy - Dreamweaver
    Dhboy - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Djaen - Lost City wrote: »
    Sins can get 2 sparks INSTANTLY + 50 every 15 sec+ 150 every 30 sec, can avoid magic , and has 2 teleports all b4 lv 89. your turn ...

    Your level 19.

    Your turn.
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Roar of the Pride.
    /thread.

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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Roar of the Pride.
    /thread.

    [All posters below this will get a kick in the nuts.]

    could you grab mine, instead of kicking them DD b:kiss

    DD lets go PKing, i need to update my sig since that was when i was LA.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Javon - Lost City
    Javon - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Dhboy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Your level 19.

    Your turn.

    Thats my alt , my BM is higher than yours.......

    Any way its clear that sins gain more chi, i wasnt saying sins are superior though
  • Starchief - Sanctuary
    Starchief - Sanctuary Posts: 606 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Javon - Lost City wrote: »
    Thats my alt , my BM is higher than yours.......

    and my BMs higher than yours :D
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  • Rockstare - Heavens Tear
    Rockstare - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Yeap,

    sins are OP - now, gief BM's more powahs plz. b:thanksb:pleased
  • Starchief - Sanctuary
    Starchief - Sanctuary Posts: 606 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    and rockstare's bm is higher than both of ours! b:shocked
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  • Legendadry - Harshlands
    Legendadry - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    yo do know what any class can gain like a huge chunk of chi w/ cloud eruption?

    at lvl 1 you gain 1 spark. GG
    I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Legendadry - Harshlands wrote: »
    yo do know what any class can gain like a huge chunk of chi w/ cloud eruption?

    at lvl 1 you gain 1 spark. GG

    yup we are all screwed....


    2 sparks for a 30% amp
    2 sparks for a crit+
    2 sparks for a 5 second stun

    oh wait their spark skills suck horriblyb:chuckle

    sins are the exact inverse of bm's in that respect lots of chi and nothing to do

    bm's are omg chi skills but need fists to get a decent amount

    seriously a sinn spent 2 sparks to do what what a bm does with 1 and do it nowhere near as effectivly

    but ya Q.Q me a river that i shall use to convey goods via a riverboat service leading to profit enough to afford 90 gears
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Djaen - Lost City
    Djaen - Lost City Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yup we are all screwed....


    2 sparks for a 30% amp
    2 sparks for a crit+
    2 sparks for a 5 second stun

    oh wait their spark skills suck horriblyb:chuckle

    sins are the exact inverse of bm's in that respect lots of chi and nothing to do

    bm's are omg chi skills but need fists to get a decent amount

    seriously a sinn spent 2 sparks to do what what a bm does with 1 and do it nowhere near as effectivly

    but ya Q.Q me a river that i shall use to convey goods via a riverboat service leading to profit enough to afford 90 gears

    Your just jelaous cuz we got chi for days. Also you cant compare their spark skills because the classes work different. If our spark skill were the same a bms, sins would be OP.

    btw as much as u post on these forums and talk about BMs ,You ought to be lv 95+ by now, ijs
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Djaen - Lost City wrote: »
    Your just jelaous cuz we got chi for days. Also you cant compare their spark skills because the classes work different. If our spark skill were the same a bms, sins would be OP.

    btw as much as u post on these forums and talk about BMs ,You ought to be lv 95+ by now, ijs

    far to lazy to level >.<

    and im quite happy with 2.5 sparks every 30 seconds + spark pots

    if i really wanted more chi id stick cloud eruption on my geni but far better uses for that skill spot

    cant compare our skills? thats like saying you cant compare tempest to BIDS similar effect same cost but one is vastly stronger than the other

    HF level 10 =100% amp 2 sparks
    subsea lvl 10 = 30% amp (dosent stack with exe poison) 2 sparks

    bm > sin here

    power dash lvl 10= +44% crit 2 sparks
    dragon bane= +25% crit and a debuff that needs to be removed to take advantage of the skill 1 spark

    sin > bm here ill admit...probobly the only skills sins have thats really worth 2 sparks

    headhunt= 5 second stun 2 sparks
    drake bash= 6 second stun 1 spark
    RotP= 6 second aoe stun 35 chi

    bm > sin
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • dekciw
    dekciw Posts: 954 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Not sure what you're trying to argue here, those 2 class have nothing in common but the fact that they're both melee.
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  • Djaen - Lost City
    Djaen - Lost City Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    dekciw wrote: »
    Not sure what you're trying to argue here, those 2 class have nothing in common but the fact that they're both melee.


    +1 my point exactly
  • Dreaded_Fate - Lost City
    Dreaded_Fate - Lost City Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Dhboy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Your level 19.

    Your turn.
    Necro necro necro. your turn
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  • Downed - Harshlands
    Downed - Harshlands Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No matter how you look at it, game programmers will not "invent" a new class that just replaces another popular class.

    Sins will have different skills, but those skills will not just replace a bm in any way. Sins will be an addition to the game, not a replacement. And this goes for phys as well.

    I'd rather have a BM doing dmg, then a sin going stealth to avoid dmg in a party.

    Sins and psys have to prove their worth before they will get into any good parties. If they don't, it's bye bye to them.

    I don't see the bm's going out the door that soon, lol

    to me psys has proven there worth they deal awsome dmg and they have a heal which is helpfull in bh partys wen cleric has to focus on tank and cant aoe heal.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Downed - Harshlands wrote: »
    to me psys has proven there worth they deal awsome dmg and they have a heal which is helpfull in bh partys wen cleric has to focus on tank and cant aoe heal.

    agreed although their AoE heal alone is a bit weak.
    but for bosses like nob who has the weak aoe they can use their life bubble to give clerics peace of mind.
    (also me wuv the synergistic effect wizard + psy has)
    constant earth/water dmg from psy + wizard undine strike = win. (only problem be either me or the psy could easily accidentally grab aggro.)
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  • Zerhee - Lost City
    Zerhee - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    This thread is sooo 2009.
    Far Beyond Driven
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  • Alzerius - Sanctuary
    Alzerius - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Oh my god, enough with the statistics and PLAY ONE ALREADY. Jesus Christ, man. last 11 pages have been nothing but QQ and misunderstood skill information (yea, lv89 for stealth IceJazmin? wtf, I mean really. We get that -censored- at lv13 and force stealth at 29.)
    Sure, Sin's may be kinda squishy, but is that gonna matter when YOU can't see us when we competely buff up + DOUBLE spark next to you? AND we can nearly stun-lock you? Not only that, but we get a skill called Maze Steps which looks like this
    Maze Steps
    Range Self
    Mana 100
    Cast instant
    CoolDown 90.0 seconds
    Weapon Daggers
    Require Cultivation Aware of Discord

    Increases own movement speed by (80+2*skill level)%,
    Immune to Stun and Immobilize. Lasts for 10 seconds.

    Costs 1 Spark
    (got from ArkToNE)
    if you really want to know about the skills, go here
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=553811
    ArkToNE's guide for assassins.
    I dueled lv37 psy and a lv46 archer the other day, mind you, i'm currently lv36. Beat the psy twice, third time they healed up using mantou (1.5k of HP and MP, boo) and after that i stealthed and i was one shot away from killing her (a literal 10 damage away). The archer, of course, beat me, but i got his health down to 1/4. Squishy? sure. Heavy damage? heck yea. 9% (7 points from 10%) critrate at lv36. Woo, you BM's are in for one nasty PvP surprise >.>
  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Alzerius - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh my god, enough with the statistics and PLAY ONE ALREADY. Jesus Christ, man. last 11 pages have been nothing but QQ and misunderstood skill information (yea, lv89 for stealth IceJazmin? wtf, I mean really. We get that -censored- at lv13 and force stealth at 29.)
    Sure, Sin's may be kinda squishy, but is that gonna matter when YOU can't see us when we competely buff up + DOUBLE spark next to you? AND we can nearly stun-lock you? Not only that, but we get a skill called Maze Steps which looks like this
    Maze Steps
    Range Self
    Mana 100
    Cast instant
    CoolDown 90.0 seconds
    Weapon Daggers
    Require Cultivation Aware of Discord

    Increases own movement speed by (80+2*skill level)%,
    Immune to Stun and Immobilize. Lasts for 10 seconds.

    Costs 1 Spark
    (got from ArkToNE)
    if you really want to know about the skills, go here
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=553811
    ArkToNE's guide for assassins.
    I dueled lv37 psy and a lv46 archer the other day, mind you, i'm currently lv36. Beat the psy twice, third time they healed up using mantou (1.5k of HP and MP, boo) and after that i stealthed and i was one shot away from killing her (a literal 10 damage away). The archer, of course, beat me, but i got his health down to 1/4. Squishy? sure. Heavy damage? heck yea. 9% (7 points from 10%) critrate at lv36. Woo, you BM's are in for one nasty PvP surprise >.>

    Woo gg we have will of the bolshi, does the same thing. And until there are more high level sins you can't really judge how they're gonna fare in pvp endgame.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Is the same thing happen in these thread too ? About replacing other class.
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  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    Alzerius - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh my god, enough with the statistics and PLAY ONE ALREADY. Jesus Christ, man. last 11 pages have been nothing but QQ and misunderstood skill information (yea, lv89 for stealth IceJazmin? wtf, I mean really. We get that -censored- at lv13 and force stealth at 29.)
    Sure, Sin's may be kinda squishy, but is that gonna matter when YOU can't see us when we competely buff up + DOUBLE spark next to you? AND we can nearly stun-lock you? Not only that, but we get a skill called Maze Steps which looks like this
    Maze Steps
    Range Self
    Mana 100
    Cast instant
    CoolDown 90.0 seconds
    Weapon Daggers
    Require Cultivation Aware of Discord

    Increases own movement speed by (80+2*skill level)%,
    Immune to Stun and Immobilize. Lasts for 10 seconds.

    Costs 1 Spark
    (got from ArkToNE)
    if you really want to know about the skills, go here
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=553811
    ArkToNE's guide for assassins.
    I dueled lv37 psy and a lv46 archer the other day, mind you, i'm currently lv36. Beat the psy twice, third time they healed up using mantou (1.5k of HP and MP, boo) and after that i stealthed and i was one shot away from killing her (a literal 10 damage away). The archer, of course, beat me, but i got his health down to 1/4. Squishy? sure. Heavy damage? heck yea. 9% (7 points from 10%) critrate at lv36. Woo, you BM's are in for one nasty PvP surprise >.>

    I've been stomping sins my lvl since 3x and we all started the same time on my server.
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    ^ how long u been 3x? 15 minutes? b:bye
  • ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear
    ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    PvP Sins might have the edge endgame, for the simple reason they can stealth spark which doesnt give squishie's time to kite/pot.

    PvE Bm's pretty much win this for their usefulness to squads Aoe/amps/ Aoe stuns/cancelling etc etc etc.

    Sins have a few nice skills for single targets/bosses but not seen anything that can compare to a BM when things go FUBAR
  • Veronica_ - Heavens Tear
    Veronica_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    BMs have crazy aoe stun b:dirty and are THE insane class in TW b:surrender
    there are difrences in the classes - no class is the same , every class is unique and has it's use b:surrender
  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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    still waiting for a sin of equal or higher lvl to beat me.

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