The new Sort button

I would be much happier if this sort button was for the bank / wardrobe / cupboard instead.

And I bet that the people who are anal about their inventories are way more annoyed at misclicks than the small benefit this feature provides to those who don't care about their inventory anyway.

Back to how the OP described it: Lets install a switch in your home, nestled among your other light switches, which rearranges all the furniture in your house. Now we'll tell you: if you don't like it, don't use it. How about it?


Edit: To those who like the new feature, here's an example why some of us don't like it. My inventory:


Since item drops always fill inventory from the top, my secondary sets of armors/apoth/permanent inventory stuff is organized at the bottom. Pressing the button (glitchy mouses, mindless clicking, etc- accidents happen >.>) means that my valuable good armors will get mixed with the junk armors. Apoth items may get mixed with DQ items. And sometimes they share the same icon. It is not at all helpful.

What would be helpful for -everyone- is if we could designate the rows that are subject to be 'sorted'-- eg, having a little check button to the right of each row. The ones not checked are left alone. It shouldn't be very hard to program in, and we'll all be happy. Aye?

I love that button. *_*

But yeah, I'm all in for a lock, warning box, or undo function - and of course, a "sort by type" function.

Great feature, hope they tweak it as per some of the suggestions here.

How can anyone possibly click the button "by accident"? There are 3 buttons, each clearly titled what they do: Folded, Unfolded, Sort. Not sure what they do? Hover the mouse over one and you'll see a description.

It's funny how they add something nobody requested or suggested for, yet (as always) left all the reported bugs/glitches we DID mention alone.
b:scorn

Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »

people's responses are a riot.

the 'holier than thou' attitudes in the gaming world never ceases to amaze me. I apologize for not being as perfect as the rest of you, but instead of insulting others who might have accidentally pressed the button (btw, I did read the patch notes, after I pressed the button accidentally), you could have supported the feature of having an option to lock it. But nah, you figured you would be a smart **** and flame others who simply voiced their opinions of not liking this new feature, which they have every right to express. Typical.

Its a neat feature, dont get me wrong. The idea is a neat one, I just think it could use some improvement. Like the option of locking the button, so us click happy people dont keep **** up our meticulously organized inventory or bank space (which btw, I have max of both, and Im a pack rat, so it would take awhile to re-organize lol)

Yes, it could use some tweaking. Would be nice if you could organize up and down or pick the order in which it organizes things. But instead of people making suggestions about how to make it better most are just complaining and want the whole idea scrapped.

The old saying "If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem" comes to mind. Lets make things better, or suggest how they can get better

Vivre - Harshlands wrote: »

I would be much happier if this sort button was for the bank / wardrobe / cupboard instead.

And I bet that the people who are anal about their inventories are way more annoyed at misclicks than the small benefit this feature provides to those who don't care about their inventory anyway.

Back to how the OP described it: Lets install a switch in your home, nestled among your other light switches, which rearranges all the furniture in your house. Now we'll tell you: if you don't like it, don't use it. How about it?


Edit: To those who like the new feature, here's an example why some of us don't like it. My inventory:


Since item drops always fill inventory from the top, my secondary sets of armors/apoth/permanent inventory stuff is organized at the bottom. Pressing the button (glitchy mouses, mindless clicking, etc- accidents happen >.>) means that my valuable good armors will get mixed with the junk armors. Apoth items may get mixed with DQ items. And sometimes they share the same icon. It is not at all helpful.

What would be helpful for -everyone- is if we could designate the rows that are subject to be 'sorted'-- eg, having a little check button to the right of each row. The ones not checked are left alone. It shouldn't be very hard to program in, and we'll all be happy. Aye?

When I was 18 and got my first apartment I rearranged all the furniture once a week anyways, a button like this would have really saved me some back work! But honestly, your idea is like saying ok your apartment comes with a dishwasher, YOU MUST USE IT. When the person moving in is totally green and doesn't like the electricity or water waste that comes with using one. Just b/c its there doesn't mean you must use it. However; there are some tweakings that could be done to make it a better functionality. Maybe everyone can compile suggestions to that effect instead of complaints.

Its like a mom whose child wines, she tunes it out and doesn't hear. But when the child talks in a normal tone she hears everything said. I imagine this is how PWI overlords see this forum.

i love this sort button, it makes everything look neat :P

Hmm.... but does it work on the quest item's inventory also?

I don't want to press it on my veno's inventory because i have about 3 rows of harvested mats organized in alphabetical order, but in my quest inventory, I have empty spaces and random quest items just floating around in there.

I would like the quest items in any order, w/e, just not floating about.

Vintersun - Sanctuary wrote: »

First of its a game, it won't take you that much time to put everything back as it was before you hit the sort button. How do you surf on internet and use your computer? some functions do not ask you if you want to push them or not. Like when writing on the keyboard its like your going to write "Hello"
Upon pushing "H" a message appears "do you want to push H? yes or no?"
Upon pushing "E" a message appears "do you want to push E? yes or no?"
Upon pushing "L" a message appears "do you want to push L? yes or no?"
And so on you get the point...this would be very annoying so instead when making the keyboard they put the letters on the buttons so that everyone could see what each button do. Same with the sort button if you hold over it it says what it does and so on. And I also have a laptop but it never pushes something of its own. Also many things in pwi do activate without asking for confirming like pots and skills.

This isn't about being negative about the fact that everyone makes mistakes, I do not start to complain and want to change something every time I make a mistake and trust me I make hundreds of mistakes eveyday.
NO...this thread is more about the complaining than any actual problem.

Yes and your example is rendered moot because the keyboard also has a backspace and delete button in case you press a key by accident, as well as you can always use ctrl+z/ctrl+y to undo/redo.

This new feature, on the other hand, has no such thing. Some of us, particularly those with a fully extended bank/inventory, have come to prefer to have our items sorted a certain way. Having mouse issues, misclicking, being a bit tired and not paying full attention, or using a laptop's mousepad are all ways that we may accidentally push the sort button while knowing full well what it does and then have to suffer the annoyance of re-sorting our inventories to the way we prefer it to be.

But there's NO confirm/deny button (why on earth would you be spamming the sort button often enough for this to be a problem? You have a confirm/deny button for WC that most don't complain about so how would this be a problem?), there's no way to protect certain areas from being sorted, there's no way to choose how things are sorted (which would probably make things a bit easier for many of us), and there's no way to... say... UNDO the changes (aside from manually going through your stuff for the next 5-10 minutes to fix something you didn't want to do in the first place).

We're not asking for this to be removed. We're human and we make mistakes by them by our own fault or hardware issues. What we are asking for is a way to have a chance of catching ourselves. For those of you who enjoy the feature or are gods who are immune to ever making mistakes, good for you. The rest of us would like a bit of help with our mortal ways so we don't **** up.

Imagine if clicking a item in a catshop, just once, was all it took to buy it. No confirm. No chance to double check the price. One click and you're stuck with it. Can you imagine how many (more) people would be screwed over by catshop scams? At least those of us who are smart can, on a bad day where we may not hover over all the items, look at the bottom before we hit that buy button and see that something isn't right. This feature, on the other hand? No such chance. Is it really so wrong for those of us who don't want it to ASK for such a thing? Most of us who have problems with it think this should have been a given for a feature that automatically sorts an entire inventory but we're not ramming that down people's throats. We just want a slight fix or modification so we can continue along our merry way.




To those saying, "Don't like it then don't use it," that's what we're trying to do here. Unfortunately, some of us are not able to perfectly avoid the occasional misclick and will wind up using this feature by mistake. At least have some courtesy and decency to those of us with this issue instead of ignorantly putting on a facade of omnipotence and telling us things we already know, such as that hovering our mouse over the button tells us what it does... which is something we wouldn't want to do so that we'd avoid clicking the mouse while it's hovering, or giving us a condescending attitude about how it's impossible to accidentally click something. I'm quite certain all of you have had at least one misclick in the past, so it's not as if this is completely unreasonable to ask for.

axt57 wrote: »

I pressed it due to curiosity.

Spent the next 10 mins putting stuff back to its correct place; I really don't see how it sorts anything, just dumps everything together at the top.

I did the samething but it didn't take 10 mins simple solution just press it much like the safety lock.

"accidentally hit it..."

Heh.

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

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+1 b:chuckle

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Firefox's programmers realized this was a UI problem and fixed it by making Firefox remember everything you typed if you accidentally clicked the back button. The browser can even crash and it'll usually recover everything you typed. This is good UI design. If a mistake or error can cause loss of a significant amount of work, then the software is designed to allow you to recover that work painlessly.

The current Sort button implementation is a poster child for poor UI design.

Tell that to my firefox, I have the newest one and it still cant remember anything if I push the back button. O_O

And also the crash recover has the effect that every time I shut down firefox and then try to turn of the computer firefox tries to recover the page I was on when closing the browser window and the computer reboots every time I turn it off because firefox tries to recover the page.

Nothing is perfect that is infact what I am trying to say and many of the pwi players do a mistake, don't feel like they want to admit it and instead start to complain because everything must be the gms fault.