MAG influence on MP regen rate

Ylthyn - Sanctuary
Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Cleric
Simple question : Does anyone knows how many MAG points give you 1 MP regen bonus :) ?
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i think i have umm over 20+/per sec in combat mode with 453mag (not sure - can check it later tho)


    so.. kinda. not worth to bother about it
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  • Ylthyn - Sanctuary
    Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Seems that nobody knows exactly how many mag point gives you one regen mp point :o (when doing nothing, not in battle or meditation).
    But ty anyway Para, if you have other informations I'll be happy to ear them =3 !
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  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    its every 20 magic = 1 MP regen I know this as an archer as many noob archers get 20 magic to not lose mana when they fly
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  • Kimbley - Harshlands
    Kimbley - Harshlands Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ussichu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    its every 20 magic = 1 MP regen I know this as an archer as many noob archers get 20 magic to not lose mana when they fly

    I was one of those noob archers b:cry
  • Sealion_man - Dreamweaver
    Sealion_man - Dreamweaver Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Is it the same for every class/race?? Because, if it's like vitality, it varies depending on the class (We only get 10hp per vit b:shocked)
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sealion_man - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Is it the same for every class/race?? Because, if it's like vitality, it varies depending on the class (We only get 10hp per vit b:shocked)

    MP regen per mana = the same for all classes.
    you has to has 20 to get 1 more extra MP per second.

    but wizards and psychics (probably clerics and mayhaps venos as well) get 14 MP per point of magic.
    (wizards technically get 18.9 minimum since we has to get required level 5 wellspring quaff and any decently smart wizard will keep it on so that sutra/sparks regain more mp back.)
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I thought it would be 10 mag. per 1 mp of regen not meditating or buffed.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Ylthyn - Sanctuary
    Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    So, 10 or 20 :D ?
    But that's cool, that answer at many question about the stuff I should wear :) .
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  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    As much as MP recovery is awesome... it's not the best... Just using a 100 MP regen apoth pot is enough to spam IH nonstop without ever losing mana XD and other situation you'll find yourself in combat mode which means it'll only slow down the amount of pots you use. Does makes a difference with BB, you're now spending 400ish mana every 5 seconds since you gain 25 mana a second + natural regen.
    Navarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ussichu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just using a 100 MP regen apoth pot is enough to spam IH nonstop without ever losing mana

    Really? I find that hard to believe. On my veno, spamming pet heal with a 100mp/sec recovery pot, I lose about 1000mp/10minutes. Factor in that IH uses 230mp/3seconds (or so) and pet heal uses 100mp/3seconds. I really doubt a single +100mp regen pot can hold IH spam.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    honestly me just made a few of the 100 mp/sec and then used a few artic orbs (which me later switched to the 5k MP event pots especially for zhen + RB)
    b:victory
    darn those things are awesome lol.
    err the 100 mp/sec be used for normal questing and stuff now.
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  • Ylthyn - Sanctuary
    Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Depend of what you want to do with your char I think, for me it's important to know even if this don't influence the way you put your points or change your stuff.
    More you know about your own class, best is the way you play it.

    So..... 20 or 10 MAG for 1 mp regen bonus b:chuckle .
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  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Really? I find that hard to believe. On my veno, spamming pet heal with a 100mp/sec recovery pot, I lose about 1000mp/10minutes. Factor in that IH uses 230mp/3seconds (or so) and pet heal uses 100mp/3seconds. I really doubt a single +100mp regen pot can hold IH spam.

    demon/sage IH take 400 mana a cast. Now it takes 1 second to cast and 1 second to cooldown. And there is a 1 second lag usually so A cleric gains 300 + natural regen x3 MP while spending 400 MP. Using strictly IH does not put you in combat mode.
    Navarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Around 20.

    I have 402 magic without any gear on. And, my regen rate was about 21-22/second.

    ah, forgot about them clerics not attacking. Q_Q Different story if they throw in a debuff/boss aoe.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    yep
    smart cleric stays out of combat mode while healing.
    b:thanks
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    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Around 20.

    I have 402 magic without any gear on. And, my regen rate was about 21-22/second.
    seems to match up with what everyone said about 20 mag = 1 MP/second
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    wow, so how this smart cleric debuff or dd? xD
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  • TurboWolf - Harshlands
    TurboWolf - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Simple, he doesnt. Debuffing while healing is quite much wasting mana, clerics already have to spend a lot on that!
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Or... it can be a boss that doesnt do much damage, and the tank doesnt need IH spam. No need to stand around and do nothing, DD a bit.
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  • TurboWolf - Harshlands
    TurboWolf - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ooooor you could just heal less and save the remedy =P
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Better yet, dont do anything at all and tell the barb to charm + pot tank.
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  • TurboWolf - Harshlands
    TurboWolf - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hahahah! Right on!
    I'm so greedy I'd do that, but then I could get kicked from squad ;P
  • Ylthyn - Sanctuary
    Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I already saw some cleric who AFK meditate in the middle of some boss.. I'm not surprise on anything now x_x .
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  • Aydamn - Lost City
    Aydamn - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I afk meditated in the middle of a boss once >_>
    But that's because it was a herc tank and I had to afk for some reason. With no mana.
    <_<
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Aydamn - Lost City wrote: »
    I afk meditated in the middle of a boss once >_>
    But that's because it was a herc tank and I had to afk for some reason. With no mana.
    <_<

    u did what?? b:angry

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  • Ylthyn - Sanctuary
    Ylthyn - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    We were 2 clerics, I was low mana and him more than 3/4 MP left, just said "AFK" -> meditate and went away.. In the middle of the boss..
    That was the worst one.. But not the last b:chuckle !
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