Gratitude and Respect

Boozin - Sanctuary wrote: »

*sigh*
Couldn't be more off the OP's point if you tried harder.. How do repair costs have anything at all to do with a little common courtesy?

When ever doing bh, fb, tt etc etc, every class has its role, be it tanking or healing or DD'ing and at the end of the run common sense (to me anyway) says to take less than half a second to hit 2 damn keys ... T Y... (no need to cry and complain if it was a fail squad, if you killed the boss, mission accomplished, just say thanks and be on your way and don't squad with em again)

The same logic applies to the (more an more infrequent) random buff's some clerics still throw out there in the world... just a simple thanks.. no more, no less.

....and why even bother bringing up repair bills... thats been argued over in countless other threads... if you feel the need to QQ and post about how expensive they are and that you can't afford it, YOUR DOING IT WRONG..
(and before you throw out the old "play one an see" garbage, I do have a 7x barb of my own and have NEVER EVER taken a single coin from others for repairs)
b:shocked

You also forgot to say, he chooses to play a barb. If he don't like it he can reroll.

Hmm...
Well when I go buffing random people sometimes I get a thanks sometimes not
I'm to the point where I'm starting not to care...

I think I cared more in the beginning cause the game I moved from have a more.... uh (hmm how to say it) respect towards healers?

And cause the system was a little better since each time someone buffed you, you would see who did it and with what buff.

But yeah... previous game if you had said "pls buff" it would have been a "no", no buffs till it became a "Please Buff"

I guess here people are more light hearted about things?

But anyways a thanks from time to time is very nice
It lets us know that you appreciated the help! ^.^
Makes us feel nice and fuzzy inside

You should never expect anything in return for your random kindness.

Pretty much says it all.

ya....
just don't expect a thank you or anything.
b:surrender
you be the one who choose to help them while they didn't ask for said help.
._.'

although me do randomly heal and buff people as well. and most people do show the gratitude.
but me don't expect the thanks.
b:thanks

XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You ARE going to deal with other humans, and these humans, even on the interwebs, HAVE FEELINGS.

No. They don't.

They...really don't. If I can't see them, they're obviously not real.

Pot_Head/ - Lost City wrote: »

No one is really "real" this could all be a dream in my head or your head or someones head and you would never know.

Also a Bm can have is much Hp as a barb you would just half to +12 everything and shard it with elemental def shards^^ means best class eva!

There's a difference between a troll reply, and a downright foolish one.

Kaneharo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sure, this may not come as a surprise to some of you, and it isn't meant to offend any of you. But there are times when someone helps someone else out at the cost of their own repair bill/charm/other thing that costs time or money to maintain. Sure, the person may not ask for it, but even still so, there's a couple things called gratitude and respect. I'll take an example of my own, from the very incident that caused me to post this:

I was helping doing boss runs, waiting for my squad's turn to take care of Chin. There was a squad consisting of a barb, an archer and a cleric. The cleric was focusing on the archer instead of the barb, so I took it upon myself to start healing said barb. Sure, as a wizard, my heal wasn't exactly efficient until I kept spamming sutra, but it kept him at full health, keeping him from dying, as I was taking my own damage, and using up my own pots just to be within range to heal him. He finishes the boss, and begins to fly off. I say "wow, no thanks for the help?" Sure, I may have seemed a bit rude, but obviously, I didn't exactly have to do it.

The barb flies back down, and responds, "no," then dissappears.

It wasn't as if I were expecting items or any such thing in return, just a simple "thanks" would have sufficed. What I'm trying to say here is, Just because someone CAN do something, doesn't mean they exactly have to. And if they take the time to help YOU out, and somehow keep you from losing your own exp in the process, or allow you to get something done and they didn't seem to need it at all, just at least say thanks or something... Cause no one had to help you out, and they could have easily just left you there to attempt to do it by yourself and fail.

No, I'm not talking about KSing, either.I'm talking about the person who happens to come by and buff you or heal you when you didn't have it, without you asking for it, or the cleric that you happen to ask for a revive, when they could have easily just told you to go back to town or get your own pots, or that your charm can do the work for you. They could have also just let you die.

I'm also not just talking about random barbs either. I mean anyone who degrades a DD because they supposedly "can't tank," or "don't have to pay as much for repairs," or that they "aren't needed," or even that "they don't use as much mana as I do," I'm talking about anyone who degrades a player based on class because "it's their job to ____, that's what they're supposed to do, no questions asked." And I'm not talking about the people who aren't doing their jobs, rather the people who are doing their jobs, either the right way or even better, with the most minimal costs possible, and aren't even appreciated.

They didn't choose to play that class to suit YOUR needs. They chose that class because that's what they wanted to do, whether they're the best at it, or the worst fail class ever. So show a bit of gratitude. It doesn't have to be large, such as giving them a gold or plat charm, or some kind of monetary reward, but at least say thanks, and show some respect. Cause I'm quite sure you wouldn't want to get a rude remark the next time you help someone out.

And to all those who reply saying I don't practice what I preach: I'm sorry for not showing gratitude beforehand, as it most likely skipped over my mind as I was too pissed off at something else at the time. This doesn't count the people who tried to scam their way through TT runs because they thought that they did the most work, and happened to hear it from me, or the people I had gotten pissed off at because in an attempt to save their charms/pots/money, stopped doing their role in an instance or quest (not including those who stated they were going AFK for RL purposes.)

I'm mostly on ctrl f9 settings and I do not care about buffs, neither do I want it which might result me being too reliant on those buffs during grinding.

Also. you could have blacklisted that barb and walked away. Gratitude comes from the heart, and how do you expect that coming from someone without one?

Just blacklist these people and move on.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That was me on my alt.

And I completely agree. I help people a lot, and there are often times when the helping burns part of a charm or a lot of pots, but I am always happy just to be thanked. I have come to the point where I definitely do not expect it; in fact I generally expect to not be thanked. But to have someone be so completely rude about it would make me think twice about helping in that situation next time.

I also think it is rude and annoying when someone walks up to me as I am fighting a mob and says "buff me." First of all, would it hurt to at least ask nicely? If you phrase it as a demand then I will ignore it. Secondly, I am in the middle of a fight and am not going to stop to buff some random person or even type a reply and let myself get injured. If you wants buffs that badly, wait until the fight is finished and ask politely.

Yep! been in those kind of situations before, where you're in the middle of a fight, and someone runs up and says, "BUFF ME!" If I'm fighting, I will ignore you, and pay attention to what I'm doing so I don't get myself killed! Otherwise, I am happy to buff you.

I am fond of the "fly-by" anonymous buffing, lol, or if someone is obviously in trouble, I will stay and keep buffing them, or rez them, till they are done with that battle. I don't always get a thank you, but usually I do, which is nice; I just don't expect it.
Sometimes it's apparent that the person doesn't speak English, and I don't speak whatever their language is, so they send me a smiley-face, or a bear-face, or a big XD, which I appreciate, and return the favor. Cheers! b:laugh

... So you're saying that 95% of the ppl that posted here will get their feeling hurted if someone do not thank afte making a good action?


Huwauhwauhawhuwauhawuhawuha!

omg, so if you all care that much for a "ty" I wonder what would happen if one of you got pked and the guy said : Die noob or Cry Emo or something like that.


And btw, this game is not about socialization like Second Life or something, since the lvl1 the game is => kill, get stronger and kill more monsters, fluffy thing or whatever that cross you way mwahuawhwauhawa! And again it is a
G A M E -.-'

'-' about the other classes that want to be "The Tanker" try to tank the world bosses, the ones that hit 24k, be tanker is not "I can tank anything that is lower than my level" or "I can take the magic atk boss" be a tanker is=> Got a boss? I tank u_u

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... So you're saying that 95% of the ppl that posted here will get their feeling hurted if someone do not thank afte making a good action?


Huwauhwauhawhuwauhawuhawuha!

omg, so if you all care that much for a "ty" I wonder what would happen if one of you got pked and the guy said : Die noob or Cry Emo or something like that.


And btw, this game is not about socialization like Second Life or something, since the lvl1 the game is => kill, get stronger and kill more monsters, fluffy thing or whatever that cross you way mwahuawhwauhawa! And again it is a
G A M E -.-'

'-' about the other classes that want to be "The Tanker" try to tank the world bosses, the ones that hit 24k, be tanker is not "I can tank anything that is lower than my level" or "I can take the magic atk boss" be a tanker is=> Got a boss? I tank u_u

Seriously...
It's not really about whether someone will get hurt or not over this matter -.-
It's just a simple "Ty" and it costs you nothing to type that in a sec and "enter"

As for the bold text,
If this game isn't about socialization, why you even bother to party with a cleric?
Or those DDs that throw all their mighty buffs, heals, and powers in cutting down the bosses HP, huh?
Or perhaps, you should have sent a ticket to have the "grouping" system being disabled -.-"

Furthermore, it's not like ONLY barb could tank...
Another classes sometimes tank too.
Your class isn't the only option for tanking business.
And you should have aware the first time you choose to be a barb.
It's your job to TANK, meaning...
You should have known about all those costs and not rolling one then say...
"I'm the TANK, it costs way more than your repair bills. So, why should the mighty me thank you??"
And, just for you to know, I'm lucky enough to have a kind barb friend.
He flew all his way half map just to help me tanking a boss that my friend needed.
In the end, you know what?
All people thanked him. And he himself, thank everyone as well.
From that, we got to meet some new people and be friend with them.
Now that's what I meant by 'socializing' in game -.-

To the OP, I myself don't expect people to thank if I help them.
It's because "I" choose to help, not because they force me to.
A simple thank would be great.
All I could say is, it's more than enough.
But without it, it's not like I'm going mad or whatsoever.
I'll just get over it and continue on my quests.

To random clerics that buffed me,
I always didn't know who they were.
But I threw a simple "Ty".
Then got a reply "Np" or "Yw".
Isn't that just nice if everyone could get along well?
Of course, I hereby thanks all tanks, DDs and cleric for all the effort they have put in doing their job b:cute

Note : Sorry for the long post XD
I just couldn't leave without saying anything b:beatup

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... So you're saying that 95% of the ppl that posted here will get their feeling hurted if someone do not thank afte making a good action?


Huwauhwauhawhuwauhawuhawuha!

omg, so if you all care that much for a "ty" I wonder what would happen if one of you got pked and the guy said : Die noob or Cry Emo or something like that.


And btw, this game is not about socialization like Second Life or something, since the lvl1 the game is => kill, get stronger and kill more monsters, fluffy thing or whatever that cross you way mwahuawhwauhawa! And again it is a
G A M E -.-'

'-' about the other classes that want to be "The Tanker" try to tank the world bosses, the ones that hit 24k, be tanker is not "I can tank anything that is lower than my level" or "I can take the magic atk boss" be a tanker is=> Got a boss? I tank u_u

As a lvl 6x barb, you haven't even began to play this game. You are barely high enough to do many tt runs. Your points are invalid as you are not high enough to properly assess.

As far as the game not being about socialization, there is this thing called an xbox, a wii and any other SINGLE playing game you can think of. Perhaps you misunderstand what MMO means... Massive Multiplayer Online...

This means you will be socializing with other people weather you want to.. OR NOT. Why? Because we will be here regardless of how you like your game play.

It might be nice for you to grab some social skills, as a barb can not tank anything his level... totally alone. cept regular mobs of course.

Lacrimarine - Raging Tide

You know that there is a big difference if I say:

This game is not about socialization.

and

This game is not about socialization like The Sims.

You do understand that?

BadAss Purple Mage (it's on your sign, before ppl saying that I'm givin you nicknames flames bla bla bla ), o-o' hurting my feeling? Man... try to think if everyone that helped somebody that did not asked for the help and by that, did not recieved a "thank you" start to write a topic... Anyway you did something that nobody asked and almost demanded a "ty". It is not big deal, this is a G A M E, if you did not liked the way that the dude acted, kill his char, you can't kill? Call your friends and kill him anyway I bet with anyone here that this action would made anyone feel better than post a topic.
Another thing, what is this "is ppl like you..." meant? Just because I disagree with your topic it does not meant that I've never helped any player or got helped and thanked. But, when I WANT to help somebody that did not asked, I ASK if he/she want my help, or if I want help with something I ASK too.

i always say ty and sometimes i even tell them i love them

Elezara - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yep! been in those kind of situations before, where you're in the middle of a fight, and someone runs up and says, "BUFF ME!" If I'm fighting, I will ignore you, and pay attention to what I'm doing so I don't get myself killed! Otherwise, I am happy to buff you.

I am fond of the "fly-by" anonymous buffing, lol, or if someone is obviously in trouble, I will stay and keep buffing them, or rez them, till they are done with that battle. I don't always get a thank you, but usually I do, which is nice; I just don't expect it.
Sometimes it's apparent that the person doesn't speak English, and I don't speak whatever their language is, so they send me a smiley-face, or a bear-face, or a big XD, which I appreciate, and return the favor. Cheers! b:laugh

this is a good attitude to have about these kinds of things. i think the OP is just sensitive. oh and good color choice