Gratitude and Respect

Kaneharo - Dreamweaver

Sure, this may not come as a surprise to some of you, and it isn't meant to offend any of you. But there are times when someone helps someone else out at the cost of their own repair bill/charm/other thing that costs time or money to maintain. Sure, the person may not ask for it, but even still so, there's a couple things called gratitude and respect. I'll take an example of my own, from the very incident that caused me to post this:

I was helping doing boss runs, waiting for my squad's turn to take care of Chin. There was a squad consisting of a barb, an archer and a cleric. The cleric was focusing on the archer instead of the barb, so I took it upon myself to start healing said barb. Sure, as a wizard, my heal wasn't exactly efficient until I kept spamming sutra, but it kept him at full health, keeping him from dying, as I was taking my own damage, and using up my own pots just to be within range to heal him. He finishes the boss, and begins to fly off. I say "wow, no thanks for the help?" Sure, I may have seemed a bit rude, but obviously, I didn't exactly have to do it.

The barb flies back down, and responds, "no," then dissappears.

It wasn't as if I were expecting items or any such thing in return, just a simple "thanks" would have sufficed. What I'm trying to say here is, Just because someone CAN do something, doesn't mean they exactly have to. And if they take the time to help YOU out, and somehow keep you from losing your own exp in the process, or allow you to get something done and they didn't seem to need it at all, just at least say thanks or something... Cause no one had to help you out, and they could have easily just left you there to attempt to do it by yourself and fail.

No, I'm not talking about KSing, either.I'm talking about the person who happens to come by and buff you or heal you when you didn't have it, without you asking for it, or the cleric that you happen to ask for a revive, when they could have easily just told you to go back to town or get your own pots, or that your charm can do the work for you. They could have also just let you die.

I'm also not just talking about random barbs either. I mean anyone who degrades a DD because they supposedly "can't tank," or "don't have to pay as much for repairs," or that they "aren't needed," or even that "they don't use as much mana as I do," I'm talking about anyone who degrades a player based on class because "it's their job to ____, that's what they're supposed to do, no questions asked." And I'm not talking about the people who aren't doing their jobs, rather the people who are doing their jobs, either the right way or even better, with the most minimal costs possible, and aren't even appreciated.

They didn't choose to play that class to suit YOUR needs. They chose that class because that's what they wanted to do, whether they're the best at it, or the worst fail class ever. So show a bit of gratitude. It doesn't have to be large, such as giving them a gold or plat charm, or some kind of monetary reward, but at least say thanks, and show some respect. Cause I'm quite sure you wouldn't want to get a rude remark the next time you help someone out.

And to all those who reply saying I don't practice what I preach: I'm sorry for not showing gratitude beforehand, as it most likely skipped over my mind as I was too pissed off at something else at the time. This doesn't count the people who tried to scam their way through TT runs because they thought that they did the most work, and happened to hear it from me, or the people I had gotten pissed off at because in an attempt to save their charms/pots/money, stopped doing their role in an instance or quest (not including those who stated they were going AFK for RL purposes.)

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

Seriously, its so long; very few will read it all.

But I will agree with you.

Clerics can heal/buff/revive.. but that doesn't mean they have to.

Archers can offer you extra evasion and speed.. doesn't mean we gotta.

Every class has stuff they can do.. doesn't mean they have to. There are always going to be ungrateful people. Thats just part of life. Just shake it off and move on, remember their name and never squad with them.

Sheeeba - Dreamweaver

yes, it was long, but also 100% correct. it takes about half a second to type "TY" when someone helps u out, and u don't look like an a-hole.

Magikrap - Lost City

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just pk his ****

Kriekata - Heavens Tear

i agree that pple should say thank you when u go out of your way to help them i remember when i was doing the final boss of the tideborn quests the fish boss there was a cleric near by who healed me through the whole fight.

in the end i offered the cleric some money for the amount of healing they did and thanked them but they told me they didnt need the money and that the thank you was enough.

Sheeeba - Dreamweaver

Magikrap - Lost City wrote: »

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just pk his ****

see what i mean about looking like an a-hole? case in point.

Saitada - Sanctuary

I don't expect anyone to thank me when I help them out, but I always appreciate it when they do. I also try to make sure I let people know who have helped me out that I appreciate their help. It's just simple courtesy.

~Saitada

eternalnab

i always help ppl..and sometimes i dun get ty for helping but i dun care

Lyzzern - Lost City

You're a Wizard lol. That's my explanation.
Many people don't know that Wizards can Heal/Buff (Yes, I'm talking about the crappy melee water dmg buff we have) and so, they think we have done nothing, also many people have told me on BH59's: LOL, YOU TANK? LMAO And then if the melee tanker dies I'd take the dmg for the rest of the boss. With cleric's there's not a problem that I've seen. Every cleric that heals/buffs/revives gets a thanks in return as far as I've seen.
I usually help people in need, I recall many times Sutra+Heal on dying people and using the **** buff on melee players and yes, I do like when people thank me for helping them.

StormHydra - Sanctuary

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Another thread like this.

Although youre perfectly right.

EDIT: Except if someone says "No thanks then?" to me I probably wouldnt thank them, instead say somthin like "I was ABOUT to say it.."

Belligero - Sanctuary

I'm probably one of the nicest, and politest people on my server. [Not to sound conceited or anything, because this isn't something to brag about.]

And I hate myself for it. b:cry

KeMeK - Heavens Tear

If i could count the number of time I'm tanking mobs/ instances and someone shows up late asking for a barb buff.. They aren't gonna get hit on my watch.. so i tell them no you dont need and hp buff, in addition to the fact a full barb buff or me, hp/titans takes 80% of my mana, I usually wont buff a late comer who wont need it. And of course I'm called rude and stupid, blah blah blah. But if you've got a barb tanking... you should trust him.. If he's any good you wont need that HP buff so stop bothering them about it...

Im done QQing about my personal issues, g'night

ChaoticTears - Harshlands

I agree with the OP, Gratitude doesnt cost anything but 2 seconds typing. There's been countless times I have been ninja cleric buffed or brambled and those people have taken their time to stop what they are doing to do so. So its the least I can do to quickly type " Thankyou " in local chat.

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Go Kane, go!

Anyway, my opinion on this.

If you help somebody and expect to be thanked for it, be prepared to be disappointed sometimes. While most people realise that thanks is appreciated, there are *******s out their who do not give a damn whether you saved their skin or whether you helped them succeed in something they would have otherwise failed at.

When you help somebody, you do it because you want to help - not because you want them to recognise you helped and show some gratitude. Gratitude is nice and always appreciated but if you help people in order to get gratitude, well... it's not always going to happen and you're going to find yourself angry at a few people who can't be bothered to say thanks.

When you badger somebody about saying thanks, making a potentially spiteful sort of comment as you admitted you did, then some people aren't going to thank you. I will admit, I can make a spiteful "No thanks then?" comment - I have done and will do in the future no doubt - but some people will take this to be as rude as it can sound and purposefully not thank you for that very reason.

So, while I agree with every word you said, if you go out looking for respect and thanks, you're going to find you don't get it as often as you would like - and if you're going to make remarks like "no thanks then?" to people who do not thank you, you're going to find some people may be just as spiteful in return.

XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver

Ohaithar, Airyll!

I was in Kaneharo's squad, and really, I was flabbergasted. Sure I don't get thanked everytime I do nice stuff, but I find it at least very, very basic in etiquette. "Ty", press enter.. about a second of your life. Even if you don't even mean it, I think. Well, probably because I do so (I've been in highly aggravating teams, but I still got my quest/run done... quick thanks and I leave the party).

I can live with people not even thanking me. But when such things happen (who knows, team I helped may have caught me in a bad mood, or I was a in a downright horrible run) I tend to react like Kaneharo here: "What, not even a thanks?". Usually I don't even get reply on that one; I just roll my eyes, may say something in faction/squad/vent about some people aren't grateful, but give me the time to get outta the instance and I'll most likely have stopped caring.

But the "no, I know you spent some time for me, but you're not getting a thanks back" kinda attitude throws me off.

Although I admit, most of the squads I end up helping say thanks, like 99% of the people in it. It's, as I've said, very very basic stuff. But there's always that guy who just doesn't care, and yet would pull off an Angry German Kid scene when they aren't thanked.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

KeMeK - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If i could count the number of time I'm tanking mobs/ instances and someone shows up late asking for a barb buff.. They aren't gonna get hit on my watch.. so i tell them no you dont need and hp buff, in addition to the fact a full barb buff or me, hp/titans takes 80% of my mana, I usually wont buff a late comer who wont need it. And of course I'm called rude and stupid, blah blah blah. But if you've got a barb tanking... you should trust him.. If he's any good you wont need that HP buff so stop bothering them about it...

Im done QQing about my personal issues, g'night

Though there are a few bosses where the clerics and DDs really need a barb's buffs. Drummer and Soulbanisher to name just two I'm familiar with.

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear

I agree with you 100%, its costs nothing to say a simple thank you.

XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver

Mayfly's post made me think of something...

Wouldn't it just be the polite thing to do, to wait till everyone's around before buffing? Some people lag - I know it happens to me when I play on my laptop. It takes me 5 minutes to go through Archo, and like a good 2 minutes before I've loaded up an instance. I warn my teams, and very few people mind - give me a valid reason, and I won't mind either (insane lag doesn't always happen to me). If I've buffed before the whole party gets here, I'll rebuff again. I don't really mind, even on my cleric.

Lack of respect is probably my biggest pet peeve, and it goes for online and offline for me. I gotta remind myself that I'm part of an online, anonymous community and therefore, there will be asses because they can.

SaintDominic - Sanctuary

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't expect anyone to thank me when I help them out, but I always appreciate it when they do. I also try to make sure I let people know who have helped me out that I appreciate their help. It's just simple courtesy.

~Saitada

-takes notes- mhmm mhmm ok i should do that b:cute

XylolyX - Heavens Tear

Agreed. It is a long post.

Also agreed. People should say thank you. And it can be a bummer when they don't say it. My simple rule is: no thanks, no second time helping.

If I'm running around questing on this toon or one of my alts and I get a random buff, I say thank you (if I can find the giver of buffs.) I offer mana pots to those in squad that use 'em (clerics first, DDs second.) I would hate to count how many thousands of mana pots I've given away...but if they're gonna spend a bunch of mana keeping me alive, it's the least I can do.

So yes, a little gratitude and a little respect go a long way towards diplomacy and getting help the next time one needs it.

Krisnda - Lost City

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Go Kane, go!

Anyway, my opinion on this.

If you help somebody and expect to be thanked for it, be prepared to be disappointed sometimes. While most people realise that thanks is appreciated, there are *******s out their who do not give a damn whether you saved their skin or whether you helped them succeed in something they would have otherwise failed at.

When you help somebody, you do it because you want to help - not because you want them to recognise you helped and show some gratitude. Gratitude is nice and always appreciated but if you help people in order to get gratitude, well... it's not always going to happen and you're going to find yourself angry at a few people who can't be bothered to say thanks.

When you badger somebody about saying thanks, making a potentially spiteful sort of comment as you admitted you did, then some people aren't going to thank you. I will admit, I can make a spiteful "No thanks then?" comment - I have done and will do in the future no doubt - but some people will take this to be as rude as it can sound and purposefully not thank you for that very reason.

So, while I agree with every word you said, if you go out looking for respect and thanks, you're going to find you don't get it as often as you would like - and if you're going to make remarks like "no thanks then?" to people who do not thank you, you're going to find some people may be just as spiteful in return.

i agree that people should be more considerate when people do random things to help you, but i also agree with this post here, if you don't get a thanks, then don't worry about it, its just another dumb person who doesn't care about your help and you don't have to help them anymore. because asking people "can i get a thanks?" would make some people think (ill thank you if i want to or not) sad but true

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

Kriekata - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i agree that pple should say thank you when u go out of your way to help them i remember when i was doing the final boss of the tideborn quests the fish boss there was a cleric near by who healed me through the whole fight.

in the end i offered the cleric some money for the amount of healing they did and thanked them but they told me they didnt need the money and that the thank you was enough.

That was me on my alt.

And I completely agree. I help people a lot, and there are often times when the helping burns part of a charm or a lot of pots, but I am always happy just to be thanked. I have come to the point where I definitely do not expect it; in fact I generally expect to not be thanked. But to have someone be so completely rude about it would make me think twice about helping in that situation next time.

I also think it is rude and annoying when someone walks up to me as I am fighting a mob and says "buff me." First of all, would it hurt to at least ask nicely? If you phrase it as a demand then I will ignore it. Secondly, I am in the middle of a fight and am not going to stop to buff some random person or even type a reply and let myself get injured. If you wants buffs that badly, wait until the fight is finished and ask politely.

Gasoline - Lost City

Sometimes people don't need or want help which is why they don't show gratitude...specially if they might be in a bad mood lol. Than having to type "thank you very much" to some guy that kept healing you when you didn't even need it (and really most wanted him to go away and leave you alone) can be rather annoying.

Like random barb spamming me party invite so he can hp buff me while im doing some oracles <.< Its a nice gesture of course but i rather he just leave me alone so i can lvl up and leave the spot.

Or some cleric that starts buffing and healing you while you're killing a lowbie culti boss for your tideborn, a boss that your pet can like 3 shoot. Than the cleric tries to add you on friend list and thinks you should be so damn grateful for the heals that you wanna spend 15 minutes killing 3 bosses for him.

I always say thanks tho since its the right thing to do, even if i wish the person would gtfo instead lol.

Dustinmurphy - Harshlands

Kaneharo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sure, this may not come as a surprise to some of you, and it isn't meant to offend any of you. But there are times when someone helps someone else out at the cost of their own repair bill/charm/other thing that costs time or money to maintain. Sure, the person may not ask for it, but even still so, there's a couple things called gratitude and respect. I'll take an example of my own, from the very incident that caused me to post this:

I was helping doing boss runs, waiting for my squad's turn to take care of Chin. There was a squad consisting of a barb, an archer and a cleric. The cleric was focusing on the archer instead of the barb, so I took it upon myself to start healing said barb. Sure, as a wizard, my heal wasn't exactly efficient until I kept spamming sutra, but it kept him at full health, keeping him from dying, as I was taking my own damage, and using up my own pots just to be within range to heal him. He finishes the boss, and begins to fly off. I say "wow, no thanks for the help?" Sure, I may have seemed a bit rude, but obviously, I didn't exactly have to do it.

The barb flies back down, and responds, "no," then dissappears.

It wasn't as if I were expecting items or any such thing in return, just a simple "thanks" would have sufficed. What I'm trying to say here is, Just because someone CAN do something, doesn't mean they exactly have to. And if they take the time to help YOU out, and somehow keep you from losing your own exp in the process, or allow you to get something done and they didn't seem to need it at all, just at least say thanks or something... Cause no one had to help you out, and they could have easily just left you there to attempt to do it by yourself and fail.

No, I'm not talking about KSing, either.I'm talking about the person who happens to come by and buff you or heal you when you didn't have it, without you asking for it, or the cleric that you happen to ask for a revive, when they could have easily just told you to go back to town or get your own pots, or that your charm can do the work for you. They could have also just let you die.

I'm also not just talking about random barbs either. I mean anyone who degrades a DD because they supposedly "can't tank," or "don't have to pay as much for repairs," or that they "aren't needed," or even that "they don't use as much mana as I do," I'm talking about anyone who degrades a player based on class because "it's their job to ____, that's what they're supposed to do, no questions asked." And I'm not talking about the people who aren't doing their jobs, rather the people who are doing their jobs, either the right way or even better, with the most minimal costs possible, and aren't even appreciated.

They didn't choose to play that class to suit YOUR needs. They chose that class because that's what they wanted to do, whether they're the best at it, or the worst fail class ever. So show a bit of gratitude. It doesn't have to be large, such as giving them a gold or plat charm, or some kind of monetary reward, but at least say thanks, and show some respect. Cause I'm quite sure you wouldn't want to get a rude remark the next time you help someone out.

And to all those who reply saying I don't practice what I preach: I'm sorry for not showing gratitude beforehand, as it most likely skipped over my mind as I was too pissed off at something else at the time. This doesn't count the people who tried to scam their way through TT runs because they thought that they did the most work, and happened to hear it from me, or the people I had gotten pissed off at because in an attempt to save their charms/pots/money, stopped doing their role in an instance or quest (not including those who stated they were going AFK for RL purposes.)

You chose the wrong server then pale good thing about a pvp server is if someone said something like that then they would get pked for being a smart ****.
But I'm sorry that you were treated bad by a **** barb.

RaDeSK - Sanctuary

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

haybails

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

By my reckoning, a barb (and the rest of the squad) should be thankful, saves doing the boss again, therefore saves on a bigger repair bill and pots. Any which way, from your examples, besides the wanting to be killed (hmmm...), outside assistance should still be welcomed.

It really doesn't take much to say thanks, yes, there are many that don't expect it (they have learned not to, sort of easy come, easy go) but everyone appreciates when thanks are duly given.

Kaneharo - Dreamweaver

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

It seems you don't appear to understand, either that, or you're trying to say that it's more expensive to say "thank you" than to pay your repair costs. Chances are, if you were taking the boss alone, with no one healing you (in which case you're either crazy and want to die, you think you can take it, or you're in a fail party) your costs would be quite a ways higher unless the others were there to kill it quicker than if you were just killing it on your own. The reason I helped out was not that I was demanding anything in return, or to show that I was a better person, rather, to actually allow them to leave with more than what they would have had, had I not helped them out. And just because you're a tank, doesn't mean that you don't need to show gratitude. On the occasion that I tank magic-based bosses, such as Mantavip, I show gratitude quite often, and usually get shown it back.

To everyone else who submitted positive responses: Thanks for the support, and sure, I know that there are always going to be jerks out there who believe that they don't need to thank that random person for help. Part of the reason for this rant is to notify the ones who aren't grateful that happen to read this that don't often give gratitude, that they most likely won't get helped very often if they keep it up.

Lady_Iona - Heavens Tear

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

What on earth does that have to do with treating people with a little bit of courtesy? Crazy Stone is absolutely in no way required, you do that because you choose to. How is it ok not to thank someone who spent their time helping you out because you spent coins doing something that is completely optional?

Yes, Barbs have high repair costs. That does not mean you do not take the 2 seconds to thank the people who helped to keep you alive by either healing, buffing, or DDing for you. Imagine how much higher those costs would be if you did not have those things. I am not saying that Tanking as a Barb is any less important than a Cleric healing and buffing, or a Wizard or any of the other classes chipping away at the health of a boss. Every single class has their own maintenance costs, those who put themselves in a position to take damage are going to have high repairs. Those who don't have other costs involved. This should not preclude anyone from showing courtesy to those who take the time to stop whatever other plans they may have had to help out someone else.

Notgood - Heavens Tear

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

So basically your saying people (being the barbs) should not use manners because they have a tough time b:sad.

LOL

Pretty sure clerics mp charm cost way more then a barbs repair cost. Especially when they have a fail barb. "Cough Cough" and with the gold prices these days i'm pretty sure mp charms cost more then wines, cs, ect (which they have to do too) cost more. b:surrender would go on but got to go for a while.

Starchief - Sanctuary

you people take this game waaaay too seriously.b:shocked

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

RaDeSK - Sanctuary wrote: »

... Now why we, barbarians do not thank ppl in boss killing

First => We're the tankers, if we die than 90% chance that the whole pt die too, probably we'll be close to the boss when it respawn.

Second => repair costs, how much do you think a barb waste in fb/tt and get out of there with empty hands?? Something very usual in TT runs (with low lvls)

"Ah, Drum it's too hard, lets just get the first boss and sell the drops..."

yeah but the barb will have to wait for days till he get the drum drops and will waste more money than anyone, and no, your pots do not have the same price as the repair.So put the wine costs+crazy stone+ repairs+ etc... = $$$$$$$

And you my healing friend that save the day, who helps us with that???
Do you think that a pot that regen 100mana/sec will cost the same that a boss repair? (usually 10k @ least with ONE boss) It's just grab a few herbs and do this, but what about the repair? We do not farm without wasting money, a mage, veno, psy, cleric can do that with slow nukes and running, but we?
And btw, if you see a barb with a boss it could be one of those reasons
1=> he's crazy and want to get killed, so your random healing will be bad
2=> He's strong enought to kill the boss alone without any help and do not need to thank
3=> He knows or @least was said to him that SOMEBODY WOULD BE HEALING HIM! Yes it is the cleric job to use the bubble or healing in Drum God, if you do not do you'll be DEAD, about the topic issue, in your case you should be mad with the cleric that was not healing or just let everyone die and again blame the cleric.

This person wasn't even in the squad that was doing Chin. He was there with HIS OWN squad and decided to help out and heal the barb in the squad AHEAD of them. Therefore he did not have to help at all, wasn't his squad.

You sir are exactly why people are asking more and more veno's to do the tanking, and I myself am asking more bms. For some reasons barbs feel they need to be revered above all other classes for their gracious tanking abilities. You give yourself way more credit than you deserve and give other classes way less than they deserve.

I recently went on a FF run where I tanked almost as much as the barb. (Saved us lots of time). I also spent 100k in arrows, 60k in repairs and numerous money on pots, event food, and charms of the like. The barb had the cleric healing him, he spent 60k in repairs. NOW who do you think spent more in that instance? Cause I can tell you, it wasn't the barb. Veno also tanked 3 or 4 of the bosses.

Every class has expenses. You should be kind enough to thank ANYONE who helps you when they don't have to. Like that cleric who buffs you just b/c. Or the veno who randomly flies by and brambles you. Or that cleric who wasn't in a squad with you but flies all the way across the map to res you so you lose no exp.

Its not hard to say "thanks" and it costs you nothing. And you get so much more in return in the way of people wanting to help you when you need it, and gaining their mutual respect.