Need Barb!!

this has already been discussed a lot.

people are dumb, you'll just have to live with it. a wizaed or a cleric can do a better job tanking Slitt or Mantavip yet they only ask for barbs =P

it's cuz people are ****ing ****...you should be glad that you got left out of that squad because with that level of retardation something bad was sure to happen during the run. get yourself a competent squad and good luck. Mantavip with Barb? i aint going to be in on that squad lol

I agree, barbs can be way over rated. Some people like to just sit back, hit a macro and not really think about the dynamics of this game.

i might be a barb myself but i dont really get it either
at my alts id rather have a tank then endless shouting for a barb
the only good thing about a barb is agro skils but a bm with alpha male
and that 1 agro building skill maxed and a holding back squad idc why not to let them tank(if fist bm idc why even having agro skils)
at a boss like pole i see why youd prefer a barb easily but when a bm manages to have 7k+ hp unbuffed that again sorta disapears for me

the only real reason you can have a must be barb tank is being lazy since they have easily predictable agro skils which again doesnt matter if your barb fails

Is it a server specific thing? I don't see issue a lot personally. I tank what I can and leave BM/herc/barb to do their thing b:laugh

No real reason to go out there and volunteer your time. To many idiots QQ at the moment, stay with your core friends and faction members and play the game with people you know.

Do this and you'll stay sane much longer.

Nicely said b:victory

Myralis - Sanctuary wrote: »

Maybe those people will realize one day, they did wrong and that they got a lot to learn.

But this is too much of wishful thinkingb:chuckle

I wanted to help a squad with Farren on my lvl 86 BM...they kicked me cause "only one cleric cant heal me enough"...
Next time ill ask a sage barb to come tank Farren for them...b:bye

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Even more depressing is bh59. There is not a squad alive that will listen to you when you suggest letting the wizzy or cleric tank drake or qianji. Doesn't matter how much you ramble on about "magic mob" and "weak DoT, easy to purify"... it goes in one ear and out the other.

Yesterday I joined a Qianji squad. There were already 3 other clerics in the squad. The leader of the squad starts spamming in common chat for a "tank". Apparently, he got a pm from another cleric, saying they could tank Qianji. The guy starts spamming the "LOL" smiley in squad chat after he invited said cleric. The new cleric asked what was so funny, and the guy's reply was, "5 clerics" followed by more of the smileys. She said, "Not funny."; then a bm was invited to the squad as the cleric left, and his first comment was, "get a barb." A veno was then invited to the squad. Then the bm gave us the name of a barb and left the squad.

More of my BHs are looking like this across all of my toons. For example, on my Veno's BH I have had a level 67 bm completely fail at tanking Wyvern. That was just a bad BH, now that I think about it. Half of the squad was hopelessly lost(the bms and the sin in the squad were always arguing with me about where to go), we had a bm who was suicidal(he rushed Wyvern before everbody was ready. I honestly think he though he was god because he had a platinum charm.), the other bm blamed me for his death because I was in foxform meleeing the boss(he said the cleric couldn't click on him to heal him because I was in the way O_O), we had a sin there for the token quest, and the other veno and the cleric were having lag and connection problems.

The squad ended up disbanding after the second attempt at Wyvern. The attempt went something like this: Wyvern was sitting on top of the bm, so I sent in my magmite to him him. Then put my magmite on follow and kited wyvern while telling the squad my intentions; I was going to kite Wyvern until they were ready, then bring him back. The bm resed and started chasing after me, not giving the cleric a chance to buff him. He stopped and waited at the end of the hall after the last guardian. I notified the squad that I was coming back. As I brought wyvern up on the BM, the cleric had just ran up, the bm didn't self buff, and after the first debuff he was dead within 2 hits even with the cleric healing him. By my experience as a cleric, I wouldn't have had time to use purify after the debuff hit him. The only reason the BM was tanking was because I told the squad that one of the bms should be able to tank, and was I wrong about that. I was expecting them to be somewhat competent and not be total idiots when it comes to working in a squad.

On a different BH, I had a level 64 HA Veno in foxform tank Wyvern with no trouble. This was after the cleric in the squad had failed to heal the barb because she was spam healing the archer. Luckily, I had brought my cleric along on that BH; I had my cleric following my Veno for most of the bh. While I was healing the veno, the cleric was spamming IH on the archer, and the barb was still dead.

On my barb, I normally never had trouble holding multiple aggros on BHs. That is until I had a surge of noob DDs hit me. In normal situations DDs target the same mob as the Barb so they don't get aggro. Since the Rising Tide expansion I can't even hold aggro on one mob because I try to keep aggro of all mobs on me. Now, it seems like, no matter what the DDs in my squad always target the mobs I'm not targeting, and even using knockbacks on the mobs that I do have targeted(even after I had said multiple time for them to not use knockbacks! I realize that Landslide is an awesome skill, but come on; I don't want 5 more mobs aggroing on me while roar is on cooldown). I started noticing this surge of bad DDing about 2-3 weeks ago. Not to mention the cleric with level 3 IH who would/could not heal on Farren, or the cleric who told a Psy to tank Farren over a higher level barb(the Psy being early 50s and me being a late 50s Barb with close to 6k hp; it worked out, but it would have been easier to heal a barb, right?).

Most of the BHs that have been "interesting" like this have happened in the past 2-3 weeks. I normally have no trouble finding squads that run with no trouble and no quarrel. I don't know if it has been my luck recently or if random squads are really getting to be this bad.

On a more on topic note, I have been seeing more world chats for barbs. The reasons have varied from low level bhs, to mid level bosses, and high level instances. Is there a sudden lack of barbs? Have they gone into hiding because of the abuse from the low levels? I know that I have had higher leveled barbs be called in for bh39, 51, and 59 on many occasions. There have also been times in each of those bhs where a barb wasn't necessary or would have run just fine without one.

Honestly, in most situations a Barb really isn't necessary, especially in lower level instances or for lower level bosses. Better yet, having a higher level barb brought in over a lower level barb for bosses such as Jewel, Viriddis, the 49 culti bosses, and Khewy; I have had it happen to my barb. A friend of mine, a 9x barb, couldn't help with the bosses at the time so he asked me to help since my barb was in the level range of the bosses needed. The cleric was level 84 and shortly after I was invited an 86 barb was brought into the squad.

I'll end my rant here. It went on longer than I was wanting it to, lol. Sorry about the wall of text. b:surrender

-Ling

LingBanamu - Sanctuary wrote: »

On my barb, I normally never had trouble holding multiple aggros on BHs. That is until I had a surge of noob DDs hit me. In normal situations DDs target the same mob as the Barb so they don't get aggro. Since the Rising Tide expansion I can't even hold aggro on one mob because I try to keep aggro of all mobs on me. Now, it seems like, no matter what the DDs in my squad always target the mobs I'm not targeting, and even using knockbacks on the mobs that I do have targeted(even after I had said multiple time for them to not use knockbacks! I realize that Landslide is an awesome skill, but come on; I don't want 5 more mobs aggroing on me while roar is on cooldown). I started noticing this surge of bad DDing about 2-3 weeks ago.

I hate this. Not that you don't keep aggro, but that the DDs keep taking it.

I've said it before and I'll just rage about it here again, fail DDs are starting to give the competent ones a bad name. I'm joining squads these days and am being told to "nerf my damage" and "not go crazy" - and as much as I appreciate the fact these people don't want me to steal, I know very well already how to play my class.

Not to moan at people being safe, but it irks me that people now assume I cannot play my class worth a dime and walk me through what firing an arrow at a mob does. And this aside, even if you tell a bad DD what to do, they're still going to **** up anyhow because they don't know WTF to do when you tell them to play properly.

Then again, over the past few weeks, there has been an influx of failures in EVERY class. Like the level 92 barbarian who had no idea what tiger form was, and was confused when the entire squad decided to kick him from the run we were doing and acted like we were in the wrong.

Somebody needs to make a thread so we can share all our stories of failure and hiss and spit and laugh at the idiots.

Iseria - Harshlands wrote: »

this has already been discussed a lot.

people are dumb, you'll just have to live with it. a wizaed or a cleric can do a better job tanking Slitt or Mantavip yet they only ask for barbs =P

HAHAHAHAHA....I'll DD for Mantavip but I will not tank him. I let clerics/Wizzies tank that one. I may be a barb but I know my limits.

Slitt doesn't bother me too much though.

But yes, some people have been conditioned to think that only barbs can tank, and that's just wrong. There are certain bosses that can be tanked by other other classes and tanked very well. There's a few that, IMO, barbs do a better job at.

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I hate this. Not that you don't keep aggro, but that the DDs keep taking it.

I've said it before and I'll just rage about it here again, fail DDs are starting to give the competent ones a bad name. I'm joining squads these days and am being told to "nerf my damage" and "not go crazy" - and as much as I appreciate the fact these people don't want me to steal, I know very well already how to play my class.

Join my squad and we play the "steal the aggro" game. It's pretty fun in a good squad.

Then again, over the past few weeks, there has been an influx of failures in EVERY class. Like the level 92 barbarian who had no idea what tiger form was, and was confused when the entire squad decided to kick him from the run we were doing and acted like we were in the wrong.

If you're not joking, that has got to be the most fail of all barbs.

Somebody needs to make a thread so we can share all our stories of failure and hiss and spit and laugh at the idiots.

Agreed.

whats wrong with asking for the class that is made for tanking to tank?

think of it this way, if you had one spot left for the squad and you needed a cleric, would you take a wizzy instead?

Hemoglobin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

whats wrong with asking for the class that is made for tanking to tank?

Nothing really, whats wrong is in thinking it's 100% needed when it's not.