Weird Problems With Skills?
I know some of these problems are mentioned in other threads, but many were not. I'm going to try to list every problem/bug/glitch I find here.
1) Both Tackling Slash and Puncture Wound have their range listed as 4.5. Here's the thing ~ Puncture Wound has a shorter range than Tackling Slash. This is easily testable. Cast Tackling Slash on a non-aggro wraith from as far away as possible, then follow up with Puncture Wound. Your character will scoot forward before he/she can perform Puncture Wound.
2) Shadow Escape. The skill reads "...Dispel all negative status". What does this actually mean?...because it doesn't dispel poison or the mana drain over time spell that some wraiths use.
3) Throat Cut - I am aware that the skill description says it has a chance to seal the target. But do me a favor and hover your mouse over this skill while its in one of your hotkey rows. It says that it silences the target for some seconds, but doesn't mention the percent chance of this happening. It only mentions the chance to interrupt channeling. The wording implies that the skill has a 100% chance to seal the target, which is not true.
4) Logging out and back in of PW just to get rid of Chill of the Deep gets tiring b:shedtear.
If anyone else has anything to add, please do!
1) Both Tackling Slash and Puncture Wound have their range listed as 4.5. Here's the thing ~ Puncture Wound has a shorter range than Tackling Slash. This is easily testable. Cast Tackling Slash on a non-aggro wraith from as far away as possible, then follow up with Puncture Wound. Your character will scoot forward before he/she can perform Puncture Wound.
2) Shadow Escape. The skill reads "...Dispel all negative status". What does this actually mean?...because it doesn't dispel poison or the mana drain over time spell that some wraiths use.
3) Throat Cut - I am aware that the skill description says it has a chance to seal the target. But do me a favor and hover your mouse over this skill while its in one of your hotkey rows. It says that it silences the target for some seconds, but doesn't mention the percent chance of this happening. It only mentions the chance to interrupt channeling. The wording implies that the skill has a 100% chance to seal the target, which is not true.
4) Logging out and back in of PW just to get rid of Chill of the Deep gets tiring b:shedtear.
If anyone else has anything to add, please do!
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I can confirm the first 2. but not #3 seeing as i dont have that skill yet.
heres another good catch:
4) My Focus Mind skill is at level 1. And although it says it requires 63 mana to use. It appears to only require about 12.0 -
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I know some of these problems are mentioned in other threads, but many were not. I'm going to try to list every problem/bug/glitch I find here.
1) Both Tackling Slash and Puncture Wound have their range listed as 4.5. Here's the thing ~ Puncture Wound has a shorter range than Tackling Slash. This is easily testable. Cast Tackling Slash on a non-aggro wraith from as far away as possible, then follow up with Puncture Wound. Your character will scoot forward before he/she can perform Puncture Wound.
2) Shadow Escape. The skill reads "...Dispel all negative status". What does this actually mean?...because it doesn't dispel poison or the mana drain over time spell that some wraiths use.
3) Throat Cut - I am aware that the skill description says it has a chance to seal the target. But do me a favor and hover your mouse over this skill while its in one of your hotkey rows. It says that it silences the target for some seconds, but doesn't mention the percent chance of this happening. It only mentions the chance to interrupt channeling.
4) Logging out and back in of PW just to get rid of Chill of the Deep gets tiring b:shedtear.
If anyone else has anything to add, please do!
throatcut has silenced the target every single time i have used it0 -
Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »throatcut has silenced the target every single time i have used it
Keep using it Lusca. The chance to silence something is greater than 80%, but sooner or later you'll see that the silence can fail. Paying attention to the little status ailment icons is the easiest way to see this happen.
And thanks for the tip Aadi. I'll try that.0 -
Keep using it Lusca. The chance to silence something is greater than 80%, but sooner or later you'll see that the silence can fail. Paying attention to the little status ailment icons is the easiest way to see this happen.
And thanks for the tip Aadi. I'll try that.
i barely ever use deep sting and i have actually seen it fail but i use throat cut a lot and it has never failed to silence the target0 -
Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »i barely ever use deep sting and i have actually seen it fail but i use throat cut a lot and it has never failed to silence the target
It will eventually. It has happened to me on occasion. If I knew what program to use to record my game play I could show you.0 -
to add to the range prob. of skills. as already said tackling slash ahs 4.5m range. Ribstrike is melee....well i never had to go a bit forward for rib strike....always used it after tackling slash without moving an inch(and i sued tackling slash from as far as possible). not that i complain cause its kidna nice but well its a bug i guess0
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Focused mind says it has a chance to avoid someones "skills" but ive seen it avoid melee atks from mobs to.0
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Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »Focused mind says it has a chance to avoid someones "skills" but ive seen it avoid melee atks from mobs to.
lol thats probobly when your evasion kicks in b:victory0 -
Mizore_P - Sanctuary wrote: »lol thats probobly when your evasion kicks in b:victory
well with evasion it just says "miss" but when u avoid something with focused mind it says "1" lol. focus mind doesnt rly "avoid" anything, it just reduces the dmg u would have taken to 1. so its also just a problem with the skill description.
but the tides is a unfinished and rushed class so im kinda not surprised alot of the descriptions are wrong/inaccurate.0 -
I remember thinking that focused mind was pointless in pve until I noticed the 1 hp dam thing. I use it all the time now b:victory
I used to hate that after using bleed I had to walk up to use a melee range skill. Now I used tackle/dragon/bleed and rib on melee mobs before they can even get a chance to attack due to that little bit of range on the skills. Or at least I did back when I was using deep chill all the time and spamming skills. Now that I have subsea strike, headhunt, and the chi granting skill I mix it up or melee mostly.
The skill that I was looking forward to fo rth elongest time was powerdash. Contrary to the skilltree decription that says you dash into an enemy formation with increased crit rate, the skill text says increased rage damage. Since wolf emblem already does this chi free with higher % and for much longer I see no use for this skill. Even if it did stack with wolf emblem it only lasts 8 sec IIRC and takes too much chi that could be better used on pretty much any other lv59 skill or spark erupt.
I never used spark erupt on my veno, but I thought that between the chi skill and the 10% mp restore from spark+ I'd save on mp pots a lil. I have noticed nothing close to 10% of my max mp getting restored when I used Spark+. I don't notice anything above normal regen when I use it. b:cryI Aim To Misbehave0 -
Mizore_P - Sanctuary wrote: »lol thats probobly when your evasion kicks in b:victory
Nuh uh, that's when Focused Mind kicks in.BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear wrote: »to add to the range prob. of skills. as already said tackling slash ahs 4.5m range. Ribstrike is melee....well i never had to go a bit forward for rib strike....always used it after tackling slash without moving an inch(and i sued tackling slash from as far as possible). not that i complain cause its kidna nice but well its a bug i guess
I forgot about this one. Thanks for mentioning it. I can confirm that this is another bug.Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »Focused mind says it has a chance to avoid someones "skills" but ive seen it avoid melee atks from mobs to.
Yeah, all the skill descriptions could use some work. Compared to other classes, our skill descriptions are brief 1-2 liners that on occasion don't even describe the skill accurately.KoudelkaMorg - Heavens Tear wrote: »The skill that I was looking forward to fo rth elongest time was powerdash. Contrary to the skilltree decription that says you dash into an enemy formation with increased crit rate, the skill text says increased rage damage. Since wolf emblem already does this chi free with higher % and for much longer I see no use for this skill. Even if it did stack with wolf emblem it only lasts 8 sec IIRC and takes too much chi that could be better used on pretty much any other lv59 skill or spark erupt.
Awww...so it's confirmed that it doesn't raise critical rate, but rage damage instead? =Sigh=, that's depressing :c.0 -
If one of you would care to confirm this one I'd quite appreciate it.
Shadow Teleport- brings you to mob, 1 spark gone, stuns 3 sec
issue: after porting there is a large delay in which you are unable to use a skill attack, ex rib strike, click click click nada, oh the stuns gone Oo bam skills function again.
Stealth: both combat and out of combat,
It was mentioned on an earlier guide that this skill hides your name and basically your entire entity from anyone other than other assassins or squad mates.
test run - to all of my faction even the members lower than my sin, daggers were visible, genie is visible, mist is visible, name, and all skill animations = visible.
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DayzFade - Heavens Tear wrote: »If one of you would care to confirm this one I'd quite appreciate it.
Shadow Teleport- brings you to mob, 1 spark gone, stuns 3 sec
issue: after porting there is a large delay in which you are unable to use a skill attack, ex rib strike, click click click nada, oh the stuns gone Oo bam skills function again.
Stealth: both combat and out of combat,
It was mentioned on an earlier guide that this skill hides your name and basically your entire entity from anyone other than other assassins or squad mates.
test run - to all of my faction even the members lower than my sin, daggers were visible, genie is visible, mist is visible, name, and all skill animations = visible.
Any Ideas?
I'll test Shadow Teleport after I get fb 59 done xD.
About stealth - Any character that has an awareness level that's lower than your stealth level will not be able to see you at all. You disappear from their screen, radar, and player list. You were probably in a squad with your faction members while you were testing it - squad members can always see you, regardless of whether you're invisible or not.0 -
Power Dash is weird... description says rage damage, icon looks like a critrate boost, stat window doesn't change at all. I have no idea what it does and damage/critrate are too random to be able to test it easily.
I'm also annoyed by certain skills like slipstream... says they're melee range, but the range in which you can melee is shorter.Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.0 -
My wolf emblem says it gives me 16% more rage damege but in the character panel it shows as 215%dmg[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Nagamorph - Harshlands wrote: »My wolf emblem says it gives me 16% more rage damege but in the character panel it shows as 215%dmg
Wolf Emblem increases your crit rate, not crit damage.Also Known As: Sora_Kaiyou
I got tired of my avatar not showing up. b:sad0 -
Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »Wolf Emblem increases your crit rate, not crit damage.
It does increase your critical damage and not otherwise.
It wouldnt be funny for others to face a 100% critical rate char b:bye
check it out by yourself: http://ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nagamorph - Harshlands wrote: »It does increase your critical damage and not otherwise.
It wouldnt be funny for others to face a 100% critical rate char b:bye
check it out by yourself: http://ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php
Ok, you're right. Now. It was crit rate before the last patch. I hadn't played my Assassin after it.Also Known As: Sora_Kaiyou
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Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok, you're right. Now. It was crit rate before the last patch. I hadn't played my Assassin after it.
Now? lol b:laughb:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok, you're right. Now. It was crit rate before the last patch. I hadn't played my Assassin after it.
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Nagamorph - Harshlands wrote: »Now? lol b:laughb:bye
Yes. Now. Because now is after the last patch.Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »no it was crit damage very first day of the expansion
Really? Explain why my crit rate went up by 14% when I used it on Monday then.
I've been called a liar by better people before. b:byeAlso Known As: Sora_Kaiyou
I got tired of my avatar not showing up. b:sad0 -
Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »Yes. Now. Because now is after the last patch.
Really? Explain why my crit rate went up by 14% when I used it on Monday then.
I've been called a liar by better people before. b:bye
well obviously you've smoked too much pot
it has only increased the rage damage on the stat window0 -
Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »Really? Explain why my crit rate went up by 14% when I used it on Monday then.
I repeat it: Do you think it would be fair for others to deal with a 100%crit rate char?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »well obviously you've smoked too much pot
it has only increased the rage damage on the stat window
I'm sorry. I'm not an advocate of drugs, illegal or otherwise. I have never in the past or present touched harmful drugs of any sort, nor will I ever in the future. So when I say that my crit rate went up to 19% and back down to 5% after 30 seconds, then my crit rate went up to 19% and back down 5% after 30 seconds. Accusing me of doing drugs won't change that fact.Nagamorph - Harshlands wrote: »I repeat it: Do you think it would be fair for others to deal with a 100%crit rate char?
And attack rate will display above 5.0/second but will not actually go as high as displayed.
Again, bigger men than you have tried and failed. b:byeAlso Known As: Sora_Kaiyou
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Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm sorry. I'm not an advocate of drugs, illegal or otherwise. I have never in the past or present touched harmful drugs of any sort, nor will I ever in the future. So when I say that my crit rate went up to 19% and back down to 5% after 30 seconds, then my crit rate went up to 19% and back down 5% after 30 seconds. Accusing me of doing drugs won't change that fact.
And attack rate will display above 5.0/second but will not actually go as high as displayed.
Again, bigger men than you have tried and failed. b:bye
whatever x.x
fact is you are the ONLY person who says there crit rate went up
and you have absolutely no proof at all to back up what your saying
i could say the sky use to be green last week but that doesn't make it so
were as i could simply go in game take a ss of my crit rate and rage damage, cast my little self buff and take another ss of my crit rate being the same and my rage damage having increased0 -
Wolf Emblem increased Rage Damage before the last maintenance patch, just like it did the very first time I acquired the skill at lv 14 (the day of the expansion release). It did this on PWMY as well. b:kiss
Yeah the inaccuracies in the skill descriptions for the TB are really beginning to annoy quite a few people.
Anyone find out what Power Dash really does? Anyone know what shadow escape actually dispels?0 -
shadow escape dispel your aggro b:victoryb:thanks0
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Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm sorry. I'm not an advocate of drugs, illegal or otherwise. I have never in the past or present touched harmful drugs of any sort, nor will I ever in the future. So when I say that my crit rate went up to 19% and back down to 5% after 30 seconds, then my crit rate went up to 19% and back down 5% after 30 seconds. Accusing me of doing drugs won't change that fact.
you are a pure bold face lie then. the skil never increased crit rate, it only and always did increase crit dmg. i know this with 500% certainty because i looked and tested the skill NUMEROUS times when i got it the FIRST day of expansion release because i wanted to see how much my crits would increase with wolf emblem on vs with it off. and my 200% rage dmg increased, not my crit rate... my crit rate didnt change at all and i didnt expect it to because the description said it increases my CRIT DMG.
so u sir are lying out ur **** pretty hard.0 -
Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm sorry. I'm not an advocate of drugs, illegal or otherwise. I have never in the past or present touched harmful drugs of any sort, nor will I ever in the future. So when I say that my crit rate went up to 19% and back down to 5% after 30 seconds, then my crit rate went up to 19% and back down 5% after 30 seconds. Accusing me of doing drugs won't change that fact.
And attack rate will display above 5.0/second but will not actually go as high as displayed.
Again, bigger men than you have tried and failed. b:byeWondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.0
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