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Noob - Heavens Tear
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Alright. I've played Perfect World for roughly 3 years through PWI and the Malaysian versions. And I'd just like to say that it's becoming a theme that every part of this game is just completely half-done.
How is it fair that people pay money for things in this game when we're given back with horrible quality of service to players? There's horrible typos in important things such as the cash shop. If you ever care to read the literature in the quests, you'd find there to be HORRIBLE grammar.
There's glitches in this game that have not been fixed for years, but this PW-CN's fault after all.
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give.
How is it fair that people pay money for things in this game when we're given back with horrible quality of service to players? There's horrible typos in important things such as the cash shop. If you ever care to read the literature in the quests, you'd find there to be HORRIBLE grammar.
There's glitches in this game that have not been fixed for years, but this PW-CN's fault after all.
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give.
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how many rant threads a week are you going to make? its a baby game, give the damn thing time to blossom, rather than sitting here criticizing things that cant be easily fix/just handed to you.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
*raises both hands in the air*
Preach it to the choir sister!
AAAAmen0 -
This is the only "rant" thread I have ever made. I am nobody's alt if that's the impression you're getting here.
Blossom? This game has been out for some hell of a time now. This must be some hell of a flower. b:surrender0 -
apologies must be thinking of someone else.
but PWI compared to things like [removed] (10 years) [removed] (10) [removed] (8) etc. it is a baby MMO. hell, [removed] is like the granddaddy of MMOs and its still the number one MMO in asia O_o;[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »how many rant threads a week are you going to make? its a baby game, give the damn thing time to blossom, rather than sitting here criticizing things that cant be easily fix/just handed to you.
take your own advice.
Paying customers deserve to get what they paid for. It's completely ridiculous to say "just handed to you".
Baby game? With all the scantily clad characters? I really pity a person who is so jaded & hardcore that they think that way. Sad to be you & all the joy in life gone.
Time to blossom? What a joke. They've had plenty time to fix things. They ignore errors & issues to choke us with new content that is also broken & say that's an EXCUSE for not fixing things.
This whole attitude is extremely immature... on your part... and on PWI's.0 -
Noob - Heavens Tear wrote: »Alright. I've played Perfect World for roughly 3 years through PWI and the Malaysian versions. And I'd just ...
...where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give.
Yet, you've put up with it for this long. As have many others. I guess the poorly translated storyline and inconsistent content doesn't really affect their bottom-line now does it? Why would it be a high priority if better grammar won't likely bring more moola? If anything, a proper translator would cost more moola for no visible return. To be fair, they most likely have their hands full, trying to keep the majority of players happy, adding new content and fixing major bugs. The majority of players probably just click through the contents without reading anything anyway. After all, it's just another kill quest. It's a nice to have fix, not a game breaker. If it was, we would have all quit a long time ago. PWI version hasn't been around that long, have some patience and hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised one day.0 -
we dont pay for anything by choice, its a 'free game' that is most definitely handed to you free of charge.Paying customers deserve to get what they paid for. It's completely ridiculous to say "just handed to you".
you really must be really stupid... baby game refers to the age of its release (ie, a little over a year ago?) not the rating of its content. can you not read?Baby game? With all the scantily clad characters? I really pity a person who is so jaded & hardcore that they think that way. Sad to be you & all the joy in life gone.
playing on the above point, this game is relatively new. they fix bugs weekly, and things sometimes arent as simple as adding a few lines of code to fix, ask any programmer, they can tell you this; oh ignorant one.Time to blossom? What a joke. They've had plenty time to fix things. They ignore errors & issues to choke us with new content that is also broken & say that's an EXCUSE for not fixing things.
if youd like to display more stupidity and an inability to read, be my guess, ill be glad to counter your BS and make a fool out of you yet.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
hallsvaporaction wrote: »Yet, you've put up with it for this long. As have many others. I guess the poorly translated storyline and inconsistent content doesn't really affect their bottom-line now does it? Why would it be a high priority if better grammar won't likely bring more moola? If anything, a proper translator would cost more moola for no visible return. To be fair, they most likely have their hands full, trying to keep the majority of players happy, adding new content and fixing major bugs. The majority of players probably just click through the contents without reading anything anyway. After all, it's just another kill quest. It's a nice to have fix, not a game breaker. If it was, we would have all quit a long time ago. PWI version hasn't been around that long, have some patience and hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised one day.
When PWI was created the community revolved around GM and player interaction. You'd constantly have personal interaction with GMs. What was funny was, the administration here kept picking fun on the other versions of the game. Calling them money hungry and lazy, promising instead that their service will be unrivaled. And now a little over a year later, I feel like nothing has changed when you look at one version of Perfect World vs. this one.0 -
Noob - Heavens Tear wrote: »Alright. I've played Perfect World for roughly 3 years through PWI and the Malaysian versions. And I'd just like to say that it's becoming a theme that every part of this game is just completely half-done.
How is it fair that people pay money for things in this game when we're given back with horrible quality of service to players? There's horrible typos in important things such as the cash shop. If you ever care to read the literature in the quests, you'd find there to be HORRIBLE grammar.
There's glitches in this game that have not been fixed for years, but this PW-CN's fault after all.
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give.
play another game, problem solved[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Starchief - Sanctuary wrote: »play another game, problem solved
Lol....
I've played with my friends on this game for years. Why should I go somewhere else when I know every corner of this game and how to play it?0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »fix bugs weekly
You must have been playing a different game.0 -
And PW (wan mei) is from 2004, not really a baby game0
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Noob - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lol....
I've played with my friends on this game for years. Why should I go somewhere else when I know every corner of this game and how to play it?
"Alright. I've played Perfect World for roughly 3 years through PWI and the Malaysian versions. And I'd just like to say that it's becoming a theme that every part of this game is just completely half-done.
How is it fair that people pay money for things in this game when we're given back with horrible quality of service to players? There's horrible typos in important things such as the cash shop. If you ever care to read the literature in the quests, you'd find there to be HORRIBLE grammar.
There's glitches in this game that have not been fixed for years, but this PW-CN's fault after all.
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give."
thats why[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »PW, not PWI :P
Well considering PWI is 100% dependent on the Chinese developers for bug fixes and all that, it's all the same game.
If you were to download PW-CN and create an account and login, you'd find the game to be identical to this one besides the translations and a few variations in things like mounts and fashion.0 -
name one then.There's glitches in this game that have not been fixed for years, but this PW-CN's fault after all.
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give."
the god of all MMOs,[removed] is still FULL of glitches and bots and bugs. PWI takes WAY better care of their game than you may think. we arent spammed to death with gold buyers, we arent crowded due to bots (both which all the games i mentioned in a previous post are.) and glitches dont make PVP/PVE unplayable. (unlike [removed]where you cant ven PVP due to glitched gear item buyers, or level to 99 in a week off a class' attack glitch)
you people really are ignorant and i feel sorry for you all.
hell on a side note, i just remembered a perfect example of two glitches of something youd NEVER see in pw.
one time when we came back from maint, the letter N was randomly blocked in the chat filter.
another was RO's infamous warp bug where priest classes could save a location to warp to later but it would erase your warps any time you went to PVP maps. they tried rewriting the code, respecing it, a number of things. it took them a YEAR to figure out what was finally wrong (i quit before finding the answer, but still.
quit being ridiculous[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »name one then.
the god of all MMOs, [removed] is still FULL of glitches and bots and bugs. PWI takes WAY better care of their game than you may think. we arent spammed to death with gold buyers, we arent crowded due to bots (both which all the games i mentioned in a previous post are.) and glitches dont make PVP/PVE unplayable. (unlike [removed] where you cant ven PVP due to glitched gear item buyers, or level to 99 in a week off a class' attack glitch)
you people really are ignorant and i feel sorry for you all.
Look, I don't get why you're becoming so upset here. If you want people to listen to you and take what you say into consideration, it would be advisable to treat other people on the forums with respect. You're definitely not winning my support through tagging the ends of your posts by calling us ignorant.
And I don't want to sit here all day naming all the glitches we deal with each day. There's walk-through walls in FBs for one. Problems with glitching while running/going down mountains. Just simple stuff like that which would indeed take just a little effort to reverse.
I also noticed that you made a point that fixing these things is not a matter of changing a simple lines of code within the game. And though that may be true, remember that people are being payed with our money to develop and moderate this game. It would be their JOB to go into the game code and fix problems like these. It's not a matter that these problems are difficult or that they might take a while to fix, these people have jobs they are payed to carry out, and to not give their mistakes attention would be unethical.0 -
biggest flaw in your argument! no one it paying a dime by choice! youre NOT a paying customer, in essence, youre just a donator. how the business uses your donation, and whether they give you something in return is upto them.remember that people are being payed with our money to develop and moderate this game.
quite frankly, looking at the package of pwi, its a really good investment.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »how many rant threads a week are you going to make? its a baby game, give the damn thing time to blossom, rather than sitting here criticizing things that cant be easily fix/just handed to you.
If the expected life of a decent MMO is 2 years (not my own speculation just what I've read)before it starts getting put on the back burner and ppl leave for new/better games. Then this game has already passed its peak. If each game has an estimated 2 years to make it or break it.. PWI is already there.
They dont' have time to sit with their thumbs twiddling. Blossom time should have more than happened in the first year. I don't think ANYONE was screaming we need new races. However; ppl was begging for bugs to be fixed, higher content to be released, drop rates to be increased and sales to stop happening like they were events weekly.
You see it all as whining/criticism. I do hope you realize the actual players here aren't even PWI's worst critics. We actually care enough about the game to try to get change implemented. Other sites and gamers who are paid to check this game out.. they don't wait for PWI to take time to "BLOSSOM". Its past time that PWI step up their A game.hallsvaporaction wrote: »Yet, you've put up with it for this long. As have many others. I guess the poorly translated storyline and inconsistent content doesn't really affect their bottom-line now does it? Why would it be a high priority if better grammar won't likely bring more moola? If anything, a proper translator would cost more moola for no visible return. To be fair, they most likely have their hands full, trying to keep the majority of players happy, adding new content and fixing major bugs. The majority of players probably just click through the contents without reading anything anyway. After all, it's just another kill quest. It's a nice to have fix, not a game breaker. If it was, we would have all quit a long time ago. PWI version hasn't been around that long, have some patience and hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised one day.
Please read the above. Most people aren't going to wait 2 or 3 years for a game to get with the program, time for A game is NOW!0 -
Noob - Heavens Tear wrote: »Look, I don't get why you're becoming so upset here. If you want people to listen to you and take what you say into consideration, it would be advisable to treat other people on the forums with respect. You're definitely not winning my support through tagging the ends of your posts by calling us ignorant.
And I don't want to sit here all day naming all the glitches we deal with each day. There's walk-through walls in FBs for one. Problems with glitching while running/going down mountains. Just simple stuff like that which would indeed take just a little effort to reverse.
I also noticed that you made a point that fixing these things is not a matter of changing a simple lines of code within the game. And though that may be true, remember that people are being payed with our money to develop and moderate this game. It would be their JOB to go into the game code and fix problems like these. It's not a matter that these problems are difficult or that they might take a while to fix, these people have jobs they are payed to carry out, and to not give their mistakes attention would be unethical.
[removed][removed][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »biggest flaw in your argument! no one it paying a dime by choice! youre NOT a paying customer, in essence, youre just a donator. how the business uses your donation, and whether they give you something in return is upto them.
quite frankly, looking at the package of pwi, its a really good investment.
By that logic I guess it'd be okay for me to donate some money to a Kid's Cancer association and have them spend it on themselves instead of the cause of cancer.0 -
yeah, sure thats why game informer magazine gave PW and jade dynasty a seal of approval as one of the best MMOs displayed at E3 >>; its pretty much praised wherever it goes, this forum is just a bunch of whiners who cant find better things to do, i have seen far too little players who geniunely cares for the game like i do.OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »If the expected life of a decent MMO is 2 years (not my own speculation just what I've read)before it starts getting put on the back burner and ppl leave for new/better games. Then this game has already passed its peak. If each game has an estimated 2 years to make it or break it.. PWI is already there.
They dont' have time to sit with their thumbs twiddling. Blossom time should have more than happened in the first year. I don't think ANYONE was screaming we need new races. However; ppl was begging for bugs to be fixed, higher content to be released, drop rates to be increased and sales to stop happening like they were events weekly.
You see it all as whining/criticism. I do hope you realize the actual players here aren't even PWI's worst critics. We actually care enough about the game to try to get change implemented. Other sites and gamers who are paid to check this game out.. they don't wait for PWI to take time to "BLOSSOM". Its past time that PWI step up their A game.
Please read the above. Most people aren't going to wait 2 or 3 years for a game to get with the program, time for A game is NOW!
you obviously havent donated to a 'feed the children's fund' before. not very much of it goes to feed children, i can tell you that much for sure.By that logic I guess it'd be okay for me to donate some money to a Kid's Cancer association and have them spend it on themselves instead of the cause of cancer.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »yeah, sure thats why game informer magazine gave PW and jade dynasty a seal of approval as one of the best MMOs displayed at E3 >>; its pretty much praised wherever it goes, this forum is just a bunch of whiners who cant find better things to do, i have seen far too little players who geniunely cares for the game like i do.
you obviously havent donated to a 'feed the children's fund' before. not very much of it goes to feed children, i can tell you that much for sure.
I'd like to see the proof of this. Ugh, are you trying to undermine my ethics as a person now? Let's keep this around the subject here.0 -
Noob - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Yeah I s'pose I'm QQing, but this is completely unfair. What pushed me over the edge here is charging 70 USD for a mount, where I could go elsewhere and use that money to buy MONTHS worth of subscriptions to MMOs who take care of their problems directly and actually push out content they promised to give.
Umm, what the current cost for a herc or nix pet? Have a nice day!!b:laugh0 -
OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »If the expected life of a decent MMO is 2 years (not my own speculation just what I've read)before it starts getting put on the back burner and ppl leave for new/better games...
Please read the above. Most people aren't going to wait 2 or 3 years for a game to get with the program, time for A game is NOW!
Players come and go. Some stay for a while longer than 2 or 3 years. Some folks still play [removed]. [removed] has been around since 1999. 16 expansions later, it still has customers, and it still has bugs. All evolving software are like this. You patch some, others pop-up. Want bug free, play "Hello World." Though I have seen some bugged ones in those too. xD Some grammar mistakes are never fixed (all you bases are belong....) Doesn't mean there won't be players, though it may no longer be you that play.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »name one then.
the god of all MMOs, [removed]is still FULL of glitches and bots and bugs. PWI takes WAY better care of their game than you may think. we arent spammed to death with gold buyers, we arent crowded due to bots (both which all the games i mentioned in a previous post are.) and glitches dont make PVP/PVE unplayable. (unlike [removed] where you cant ven PVP due to glitched gear item buyers, or level to 99 in a week off a class' attack glitch)
you people really are ignorant and i feel sorry for you all.
hell on a side note, i just remembered a perfect example of two glitches of something youd NEVER see in pw.
one time when we came back from maint, the letter N was randomly blocked in the chat filter.
another was RO's infamous warp bug where priest classes could save a location to warp to later but it would erase your warps any time you went to PVP maps. they tried rewriting the code, respecing it, a number of things. it took them a YEAR to figure out what was finally wrong (i quit before finding the answer, but still.
quit being ridiculous
D2 was one of the best game made from programming perspective and had the least bugs while PW and other games are still far from it even if are made this century...
bots are in PW too, you just dont pay attention to them. there is no single mmo in this world w/o bots.
thats not the point anyway... PW had for example Forest Ruins, closed due to some glitch (the whole game has bad geodata) and its still closed for almost 2 YEARSWaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »yeah, sure thats why game informer magazine gave PW and jade dynasty a seal of approval as one of the best MMOs displayed at E3 >>;.
probably best of... free mmos... since this game engine is far inferior to any p2p mmo0 -
yeah and paladins and their stupid grief zerk axes with glitched damage on smite = OP one hit KO, cant even PVP with the dumb things. dont forget aura stacking on top of that. paladins are freakin cheaters!D2 was one of the best game made from programming perspective and had the least bugs while PW and other games are still far from it even if are made this century...
bots are in PW too, you just dont pay attention to them. there is no single mmo in this world w/o bots.
thats not the point anyway... PW had for example Forest Ruins, closed due to some glitch (the whole game has bad geodata) and its still closed for almost 2 YEARS
im aware its a good game, its just heavily glitched and botted[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »yeah and paladins and their stupid grief zerk axes with glitched damage on smite = OP one hit KO, cant even PVP with the dumb things. dont forget aura stacking on top of that. paladins are freakin cheaters!
im aware its a good game, its just heavily glitched and botted
name one game without a single glitch[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
hallsvaporaction wrote: »Players come and go. Some stay for a while longer than 2 or 3 years. Some folks still play [removed] [removed] has been around since 1999. 16 expansions later, it still has customers, and it still has bugs. All evolving software are like this. You patch some, others pop-up. Want bug free, play "Hello World." Though I have seen some bugged ones in those too. xD Some grammar mistakes are never fixed (all you bases are belong....) Doesn't mean there won't be players, though it may no longer be you that play.
Thank you for choosing to get your point across without being lewd. I understand that. That will be why the people who stay here do. In hopes of more change and because they truly love this game.
A nice suggestion would be for them to make a server without the gold exchange in it. I doubt that will happen, and tbh this is the first game I ever played where you could actually do that.
No doubt that people will be playing this game for years to come, I wasn't trying to say it would completely die out. Even people who first started playing and left will likely eventually come back with the betterment of the game.
Change is often hard, and sometimes its not liked. Many of us feel that PWI doesn't listen to the core of its player base and what we'd like. For instance.. doing an entire TT run and getting only 1 mat. What a waste of peoples time. There should be at least enough (even cheap) mats to drop that everyone can get at least 1. There are problems like that with this game that should be corrected.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »yeah and paladins and their stupid grief zerk axes with glitched damage on smite = OP one hit KO, cant even PVP with the dumb things. dont forget aura stacking on top of that. paladins are freakin cheaters!
im aware its a good game, its just heavily glitched and botted
Ermm, I would just like to add that D2 isn't a real Massively-MORPG... 8 players per game is significantly easier to handle than west arch.... It's soul remained a single player rpg with multiplayer aspirations.0
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