Assassins require the most skill of any class to play well?

What other classes have you played? lol

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

try leveling a 0 vit bm sometimeb:chuckle

Blademasters are the most simple class to play.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

nope skill to play greatest required to least is as follows

all weapon bm
cleric
wizzie
archer
barb
assasin
vit axe bm
psycic
venomancer

im sry but thats a matter of preference and the players own skill and playing style

early level sins are pretty tough, since u have like 0 vit (since pure dex sins/archers hit their full potential late game) and u have no + def skills (like BMs get) and the fact dodge in general fails in pve (u can have the ultimate dodge rate and mobs somehow pull insane accuracy out of their bum and still smack u 9/10 times lol

dmg wise though i found sins pretty fair u can 3 shot most mobs, but yes very very squishy and unlike sins counter part the archer u cant kill things before they get to u XD

but i can already tell sins will be very annoying pvp wise late game (other then a small skill delay animations and hide sucking up too much mp that is) itll be like a annoying dodgy archer without a dead zone lol

any BM class i would put as the 2nd most skilled class they are pretty squishy with low dmg and high mp atks at lower lvls which puts off a lot of players not realizing they become epic late game

Barbs/venos i find to be the easiest to play (most survivable classes) with clerics/psys coming in at 2nd easiest

Unfortunately, for PvE assassins may require some skill to figure out the good combos for cheap and effective grinding, for PvP it does seem like it will be some degree of no-brainers.

For them, they have only so much status causing skills, which have very long CDs. Meaning one use per combo of killing, so it won't really need much thinking for it. They build their attack self-buffs in the beginning, use slept time to do any sparking/prep work, and then unleash after doing their long term stun to get the damage in.

Mostly, look at the skills that prevent target from taking action. Look at their short durations and use the longer duration self-buffs first so that they don't wear off during the true spike. The long duration stun gets used for final spike chain that should have the most boosts all together.

Some thought will be needed for maximizing CD vs. Effects vs. cast/channel time. But chances are, most of the players will be relying on someone else to figure them out and post them. It's mostly the short duration of debuffs, and CD times that makes it seem like they jump in, beat the heck out of the target, then run off if it fails while waiting for the CDs to finish. If they don't maximize their skill effects, they won't succeed as often as they should.

Thought I'd be an **** and place one in for ya to think about or make counters for. For this particular method having a spark block or anti stun is the key to surviving should the sin attack you without stealth (duel scenario)

(The much QQ'd stun and run technique for most assassin types)

59port/stun 0 dmg, 3 sec stun -

bleed, base +x amt -

sleep, small dmg, will take effect as stun is waring off -

gain 155 chi(lvl59) -

strike with 150chi gain skill, reasonable dmg and chi gain, (at this pt you have full chi again) -

apply 2 spark stun 3.2 sec -

re-bleed -

normal atk or slipstream to finish off, (for a cleric i prefer slip to out DD the IH heal, for others normal attacks work fine)


Lots of ways to go around this type of thing but it's just one that I find to fit the stereotype method. Effect will vary on the opponents genie skills, pots and whether or not you've caught them off guard and made the player too confounded to think quickly/calmly and react.



(Edit: woops forgot the test data) This is what I used on an 80 cleric and an 80 veno for .... test purposes. Both are robes, the cleric heal needs to be out DD'd provide they heal first, the veno pet is an issue and should be dealt with by type immediately.

ex: mele pet - as they are casting pet will run to you, let it get out just a bit, then port and start to get in skill w/o interrupt.

ex: nix.... well you're probably boned, get out of the cast range by running or something or sleep that damn bird, then drop the veno preferably before the KFC meal can make it to you and drop you with it's bleed which is similar to your karma reaming you back.

Morty - Raging Tide wrote: »

Blademasters are the most simple class to play.

lol. In what way are blademasters the simplest to play?

Morty - Raging Tide wrote: »

Blademasters are the most simple class to play.

Knowing which marrows to use, timing stuns, effectively switching weapons(especially if you use 4) during fights is simple to you?

As Phoenix said, BMs are only simple if you're playing them wrong.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:beatenup what the hell happened to your wiz? why aren't you posting under the wiz's avatar?

From what I can tell, he ended up on the wrong end of a ban hammer.

2 words: Life Powder

If you constantly have life powder going, playing the sin becomes MUCH easier.

On a side note, I also regret not rolling on a PvP server, but too much time/money invested now on DW between my 8 characters (yes, 8...one of each class, lvls 6-79).

~EDIT~

Hmm...my avatar didn't show up...odd.

Also, can u define "decent level"? You're only in ur 30s Personally, i view myself as a decent level when i get a character up to 60+ (3 of them now, and 1 not too far )

I agree with the OP. The assassin requires skill and timing to play effectivly. (or like any other class, the best gear you can possibly get to smash through things)

Many skills can either save you or sink you, and for the first time since starting PW I find that it actuially matter when a mob interupts a skill instead of me just spamming my normal rotation.

I've played:

Axe BM (Vit Based, and Str based.)
Fist BM (Vit Based, Str Based, and Dex based)
Axe / Fist BM (0 Vit build, insane damage, 2nd hardest class to play imo)
Sword BM
Veno (Arcane Build, LA Build, and HA build)
Wizzy (Random Hybrid, found the class too easy to play)
Cleric (Arcane Build, LA Build. Fairly fun to play)
Archer
Assassin (1 Str, 4 Dex build)

Only classes I haven't played are Barbs (I hate tanking, WoW taught me that), and Psychics, because they just seem too Wizzy like, and from what I've seen, Assassin is by far the most in depth fun class to play, though they don't have much flexability for build variations sicne anything but a 1 str 4 dex build would kill the dmg output.

I dunno I can macro most mobs at on a level 29 assassin but then again only got to 29 and its still really simple.

=_= although I beg to differ venos are not the easiest class to play.......BMs are hard too but venos are murder when its your first class. If you have it easy on a veno like the BM then you are doing it wrong. This does not hold true to barbs which are in my opinion the easiest class to play out of every other class albeit a bit more time consuming and sometimes more expensive.