Idiot Wiz
Crimson_MM - Dreamweaver
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um ok so i was doing my bh51 today...i was the "tank" one cleric, archers and two wiz i think....ok we got to wyvern....i said "let me get full aggro first" so i started attacking...after two to three hits this wiz starts using his ultimates which i was worried about him stealing aggro but i didnt say anything...bad mistake on my side...then at the end he steals aggro and he dies...he says "damn tanker"...."noob squad"..i told him that i said that let me get full aggro...he said im a noob and need to learn how to tank...o.o..which really pissed me off when i warned to let me get full aggro....i mean if he was able to live while going crazy on wyvern and dint die i wouldnt care about anything that happened. about him stealing aggro....
so was it my part that i cant tank?
cus i think not i mean im a bm...i tried my best to keep aggro..
do i have the right to be pissed off at him saying im a noob -.-
pls comment i want to know ur thoughts about this.
so was it my part that i cant tank?
cus i think not i mean im a bm...i tried my best to keep aggro..
do i have the right to be pissed off at him saying im a noob -.-
pls comment i want to know ur thoughts about this.
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Black list him and advise everyone you know not to let him in their squads.
b:chuckle
that wizard be a dumb ****.
b:surrenderhemoglobin: idk how the hell you can turn the word burrito into something sexual. perversion at its finest
b:shocked
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storehammy wrote: »Black list him and advise everyone you know not to let him in their squads.
b:chuckle
that wizard be a dumb ****.
b:surrender
ty!!!
u just made me feel better by saying his a dumb **** b:victory0 -
<----82 wizard.....
tell that guy me suggest he rerolls to another class.......
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reason: lack of required brainpower to DD as much as one can while still keeping aggro on the tank barb (or BM in this case)....
b:surrenderhemoglobin: idk how the hell you can turn the word burrito into something sexual. perversion at its finest
b:shocked
Nastassiya - Sanctuary
A clone of MagicHamsta... wow. He's original but you're not.
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storehammy wrote: »<----82 wizard.....
tell that guy me suggest he rerolls to another class.......
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reason: lack of required brainpower to DD as much as one can while still keeping aggro on the tank barb (or BM in this case)....
b:surrender
tysm now i feel way better and not have to second guess my abilities b:victoryb:pleased0 -
Should have stopped him.Crimson_MM - Dreamweaver wrote: »um ok so i was doing my bh51 today...i was the "tank" one cleric, archers and two wiz i think....ok we got to wyvern....i said "let me get full aggro first" so i started attacking...after two to three hits this wiz starts using his ultimates which i was worried about him stealing aggro but i didnt say anything...bad mistake on my side...then at the end he steals aggro and he dies...he says "damn tanker"...."noob squad"..i told him that i said that let me get full aggro...he said im a noob and need to learn how to tank...o.o..which really pissed me off when i warned to let me get full aggro....i mean if he was able to live while going crazy on wyvern and dint die i wouldnt care about anything that happened. about him stealing aggro....
so was it my part that i cant tank?
cus i think not i mean im a bm...i tried my best to keep aggro..
do i have the right to be pissed off at him saying im a noob -.-
pls comment i want to know ur thoughts about this.0 -
PartyAnimal - Harshlands wrote: »Should have stopped him.
yup big mistake on my side there but then again he never listened thro the whole bh so doubt hed listen then0 -
DDs seem to forget their job is NOT to go all out using the highest DPS e-peen flashing abilities they have. It IS their job to estimate the tank based on Experience & watch their DPS to try & stay under the aggro mark. Also if they do grab aggro, to know their "save my ****" techniques & STOP DDing imediately hoping the cleric will heal (which in some cases isnt possible, also for the DD to know) and the tank will get aggro back. Now, a good DD will know his estimates & some Tanks are also fail (Barb that tank in human form or asks "what's flesh ream?") and thereby taking aggro isnt always a sign of fail DD. But BMs dont have much in the way of direct Aggro gain other then their own DPS, and any DD should know to stay under that mark.0
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Should have still tried.Crimson_MM - Dreamweaver wrote: »yup big mistake on my side there but then again he never listened thro the whole bh so doubt hed listen then0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »DDs seem to forget their job is NOT to go all out using the highest DPS e-peen flashing abilities they have. It IS their job to estimate the tank based on Experience & watch their DPS to try & stay under the aggro mark. Also if they do grab aggro, to know their "save my ****" techniques & STOP DDing imediately hoping the cleric will heal (which in some cases isnt possible, also for the DD to know) and the tank will get aggro back. Now, a good DD will know his estimates & some Tanks are also fail (Barb that tank in human form or asks "what's flesh ream?") and thereby taking aggro isnt always a sign of fail DD. But BMs dont have much in the way of direct Aggro gain other then their own DPS, and any DD should know to stay under that mark.
the thing is he didnt stop he kept attacking...which was really stupid...0 -
It puzzles me that a lot of DDs seem to feel a sense of pride that they can overpower a tanker's aggro as if that alone makes them better than me. They spend up big on interval and crit gear but have to nerf themselves to stop stealing aggro.
I was fortunate to be tanking in a squad of DD's 10 levels above me with 2 archers that might have complained a bit about monsters taking longer, but I was impressed with their ability to ensure the aggro remained with me. You certainly appreciate a good DD when you find one. The reverse is true, you soon learn where someone isn't doing their job.
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PartyAnimal - Harshlands wrote: »Should have still tried.
ya ur right0 -
In general you're right, but - specifically on wyvern?
A wizard makes a fine tank. Potentially better defences than you (since it's arcane damage)0 -
Slearnn - Sanctuary wrote: »It puzzles me that a lot of DDs seem to feel a sense of pride that they can overpower a tanker's aggro as if that alone makes them better than me. They spend up big on interval and crit gear but have to nerf themselves to stop stealing aggro.
I was fortunate to be tanking in a squad of DD's 10 levels above me with 2 archers that might have complained a bit about monsters taking longer, but I was impressed with their ability to ensure the aggro remained with me. You certainly appreciate a good DD when you find one. The reverse is true, you soon learn where someone isn't doing their job.
Isn't it great when a team works together!!
sigh just wish ppls would stop being so stupid and DD right and listen to the team....if the DD that steals aggro can handle it then its fine for them to steal aggro cus they can stay alive...i mean i did say to let me get full aggro but after 2-3 hits on my side he used ultimates one after another...and even stealing aggro he kept attacking...sigh...0 -
Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »In general you're right, but - specifically on wyvern?
A wizard makes a fine tank. Potentially better defences than you (since it's arcane damage)
but he was a lvl 60 wiz and arcanes cant really tank wyvern till idk forgot the lvl but a lvl 60 arcane wiz cant tank wyvern just showed that today....and his phys damage....0 -
Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »In general you're right, but - specifically on wyvern?
A wizard makes a fine tank. Potentially better defences than you (since it's arcane damage)
It's Arcane damage when Wyern goes up to your face, curses you, and then tries to take a bite out of you?
Really?
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Wyvern doesnt do arcane damage..
But as a general rule you start attacking at like 80% hp depending on tank level (if its a barb around your level-85%, if its a BM around your lvl-75%, if its a veno pet-leave squad and find another squad or attack at 50%hp b:surrender)
If you do that you can shove in as many flashy crazy skills as you want without really needing to keep an eye on aggro.
Yeah...Hercs cant tank. I would know. Archers steal aggro all the time.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It's Arcane damage when Wyern goes up to your face, curses you, and then tries to take a bite out of you?
Really?
This is news to me.
My Veno early on solo'd Wyvern and he was cussing me out the entire time. Swearing up a storm! He swore he would suck the marrow from my bones, gnaw on my entrails and lick my brain from my skull, and that was in the first 20 seconds. Of course... my Herc explained to him that it is impolite to swear at a G.I.R.L.
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wyvern sux lol
i luv drake tho i tanked it already 2 times at least with lv 6 shield b:surrender.
but yah on a previous experience on wyvern a barb left tiger AT wyvern so i stole agro -.- he died right after n we got party wipe -.- every1 blaming me coz of the barb failure b:angry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
As a DD, I am all too aware of what I should and should not do. Knowing when to nerf your damage is one of the main parts about being a DD.
Now then, sometimes I misjudge my damage and I will steal aggro. However, unlike many DDs who will do this often and complain afterwards, blaming others, I am all too aware when I steal aggro because I was a silly cow and did too much damage. I'll apologise for it.
If I don't apologise for stealing aggro, you're not doing a good job at keeping it and I'm stealing even when nerfing my damage. But that's a whole other story.
That wizard needs to either realise what his job as a DD is or he needs to reroll. DDs that steal aggro and are too stupid to not only realise it was their fault, but why they stole in the first place, are the cause of many a party wipe.
The only time I do not nerf my damage for a tank is if I can tank what we're killing. For example, every now and then I help out with a BH39 or lower, when I'm bored. I can tank mobs and bosses in those dungeons - even without heals at the cost of my charm. I won't nerf my damage there because there is no need to - I can safely tank.
However, in these cases, I normally do say beforehand that I have no intentions to play nicely with the little mob and let somebody hold aggro.
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »As a DD, I am all too aware of what I should and should not do. Knowing when to nerf your damage is one of the main parts about being a DD.
Now then, sometimes I misjudge my damage and I will steal aggro. However, unlike many DDs who will do this often and complain afterwards, blaming others, I am all too aware when I steal aggro because I was a silly cow and did too much damage. I'll apologise for it.
If I don't apologise for stealing aggro, you're not doing a good job at keeping it and I'm stealing even when nerfing my damage. But that's a whole other story.
That wizard needs to either realise what his job as a DD is or he needs to reroll. DDs that steal aggro and are too stupid to not only realise it was their fault, but why they stole in the first place, are the cause of many a party wipe.
The only time I do not nerf my damage for a tank is if I can tank what we're killing. For example, every now and then I help out with a BH39 or lower, when I'm bored. I can tank mobs and bosses in those dungeons - even without heals at the cost of my charm. I won't nerf my damage there because there is no need to - I can safely tank.
However, in these cases, I normally do say beforehand that I have no intentions to play nicely with the little mob and let somebody hold aggro.
^^ love ur post, n about nerfing damage lol i have crowd of flames n pitfall lv 3 for when bms tanks b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
That's why I love being BM: when someone else takes aggro other than the barb, just throw in the cloud sprint and RUN b:laugh
On topic: there's no reason to tell DDs to hold their damage at that level. If they don't know it at their level, then they are really doing something wrong.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »As a DD, I am all too aware of what I should and should not do. Knowing when to nerf your damage is one of the main parts about being a DD.
Now then, sometimes I misjudge my damage and I will steal aggro. However, unlike many DDs who will do this often and complain afterwards, blaming others, I am all too aware when I steal aggro because I was a silly cow and did too much damage. I'll apologise for it.
If I don't apologise for stealing aggro, you're not doing a good job at keeping it and I'm stealing even when nerfing my damage. But that's a whole other story.
That wizard needs to either realise what his job as a DD is or he needs to reroll. DDs that steal aggro and are too stupid to not only realise it was their fault, but why they stole in the first place, are the cause of many a party wipe.
The only time I do not nerf my damage for a tank is if I can tank what we're killing. For example, every now and then I help out with a BH39 or lower, when I'm bored. I can tank mobs and bosses in those dungeons - even without heals at the cost of my charm. I won't nerf my damage there because there is no need to - I can safely tank.
However, in these cases, I normally do say beforehand that I have no intentions to play nicely with the little mob and let somebody hold aggro.
hehe nice to see a person that actually takes responsibilities of wat they did and not cry about it and tell everyones a noob -.-...
and havent i met u on my cleric o_o on bh69 i think....0 -
Wow.. Just wow.. That wiz is an epic fail.
As u said ur a BM, not really meant to tank. DDs should know that its different when a BM or herc is tanking in stead of a barb. And on top of that its his own fault he ignored ur warning.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
JollyJaguar - Sanctuary wrote: »Wow.. Just wow.. That wiz is an epic fail.
As u said ur a BM, not really meant to tank. DDs should know that its different when a BM or herc is tanking in stead of a barb. And on top of that its his own fault he ignored ur warning.
maybe oracled lol b:quiet[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
You did your best. BM's don't really have a way to HOLD and KEEP aggro. The Wiz should have understood this and adjusted his game play.
What some people do not understand is how to adjust their style of play to suit the squad's best interest. For example, there's a wiz that I squad with regularly (he's 1 level below me) He could be dropping all sorts of mad skills, but he holds himself in check. In over 25 times squadding with him, he stole aggro once, and scared the pee outta the cleric since he was standing behind her.b:laugh I got it back before the boss could do anything other than start walking away.
The moral of the story is...The wiz with you failed to tailor his gameplay to the needs of the squad, and so he aggroed and so he died. Not your fault.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Crimson_MM - Dreamweaver wrote: »and havent i met u on my cleric o_o on bh69 i think....
This depends.... who is your cleric? o_O I know a lot. XD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
What this boils down to is, that wizzy wasn't a team player. He wanted to do things his way, not the way the team wanted. You said yourself he wasn't behaving as part of the team the whole run. Well, it's he own fault for not being a team player and working with the squad.IceJazmin - Heavens Tear - "I am happy to agree to disagree :P"
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If a BM is tanking, and the wiz cannot survive that boss' hits, most will limit their attacks, unless they are really dumb and don't know how to play their class, which it seems you encountered, so don't be surprised -- let him die and learn his lesson the hard way. I get the same thing with archers too, where they will go all out with attacks and snatch aggro then complain -- no **** Sherlock, BM's are not barbs. The job of a DD is very simple.Crimson_MM - Dreamweaver wrote: »um ok so i was doing my bh51 today...i was the "tank" one cleric, archers and two wiz i think....ok we got to wyvern....i said "let me get full aggro first" so i started attacking...after two to three hits this wiz starts using his ultimates which i was worried about him stealing aggro but i didnt say anything...bad mistake on my side...then at the end he steals aggro and he dies...he says "damn tanker"...."noob squad"..i told him that i said that let me get full aggro...he said im a noob and need to learn how to tank...o.o..which really pissed me off when i warned to let me get full aggro....i mean if he was able to live while going crazy on wyvern and dint die i wouldnt care about anything that happened. about him stealing aggro....
so was it my part that i cant tank?
cus i think not i mean im a bm...i tried my best to keep aggro..
do i have the right to be pissed off at him saying im a noob -.-
pls comment i want to know ur thoughts about this.0 -
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