hp powders and cleric buffs
Velarious - Heavens Tear
Posts: 14 Arc User
ive no idea why they cudnt update this in this expansion, but when u have a hp powder on and a random cleric may buff u while passing by or so, it cancles out the powder, such as a couple mins ago im questing with my hp powder on, a cleric buffs a few ppl around, see's me (with the damn hp regen increase on) and buffs over it.
there either slightly stupid or do it on purpose (which i no some do).
so to the nice clerics out there that will buff without asking...plz for the love of god check if ppl such as me have powders on, its obvious to see, cleric buff gives hp/mp, powder gives 1 or the other, im not ungrateful, but its anoying.
there either slightly stupid or do it on purpose (which i no some do).
so to the nice clerics out there that will buff without asking...plz for the love of god check if ppl such as me have powders on, its obvious to see, cleric buff gives hp/mp, powder gives 1 or the other, im not ungrateful, but its anoying.
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Fail-cleric.
Any good cleric can immediately recognize apoth powders and skip the hp/mp buff.0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Fail-cleric.
Any good cleric can immediately recognize apoth powders and skip the hp/mp buff.
not always <_< u cant tell (obviously) when they have both hp and mp powders active, unless they don't have the other 3 cleric buffs, then its kinda obvious.0 -
Who cares... i'll trade my apoc buff for a full set of cleric buff anyday.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
What about when Venos cast bramble guard on you and you don't want it?0
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Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »I relog, or have her duel/purge me
I was going to say that relog the op might not want to.0 -
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What about when Venos cast bramble guard on you and you don't want it?
i'll take any random bramble i can get... it'll only help me kill mobs faster.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
i hate it wen ppl do it. there shud be an option for not accepting certain buffs
like a filter system. 0 -
wow so many ungreatfull people. clerics/venos take there own time out of there questing to give you something for free that you can't get.
tisk tisk so ungreatfull0 -
Problem is the best cleric hp regen buff only gives you 10 hp/sec. The worst apoc hp regen buff gives you 50 hp/sec. A lot of melee types use those to solo when there's no cleric to heal them. So a cleric overwriting it with their buff means they actually hurting, not helping. They have to burn a ton of pots to stay alive, or waste another apoc powder.I_can_heal_ - Harshlands wrote: »tisk tisk so ungreatfull
All this could be avoided if the buffer would just check to see if the buffee already had buffs. If they have them, don't overwrite it.0 -
Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »Problem is the best cleric hp regen buff only gives you 10 hp/sec. The worst apoc hp regen buff gives you 50 hp/sec. A lot of melee types use those to solo when there's no cleric to heal them. So a cleric overwriting it with their buff means they actually hurting, not helping. They have to burn a ton of pots to stay alive, or waste another apoc powder.
All this could be avoided if the buffer would just check to see if the buffee already had buffs. If they have them, don't overwrite it.
still ungreatfull im saving you money. again im taking my own time out the day to give you a free buff that uses money so techinaly i should be charging you huh? if i started charging people who pmed me asking me to rez them wow i would be rich.0 -
It takes....two damn seconds to buff someone. So don't even pull that "I took time out of my day--" BS. Unless you are being sarcastic... but, that's just really pompous if it's not sarcasm. I am a cleric, and I like to play one, but part of being a cleric is supporting others WHEN THEY NEED IT. If they have a better buff than I can give, I don't buff them, when people ask for a rez I ask them if they're sure they want mine because it's low or if they want to call another person. If you can't be a nice support class, reroll please. You're marring the image. -_-;
People who get long term buffs that can't be given by pots(that I know of) like the physical and magical defense buffs or bramble; and didn't want one, sorry 'bout that. >_>;[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
When Saukey decides she can swim, I know I didn't get the DC pop-up again. Wish she swam when it matters.0 -
Pegasi - Lost City wrote: »It takes....two damn seconds to buff someone. So don't even pull that "I took time out of my day--" BS.
no im pretty sure it takes more than 2 damn seconds to buff someone and yes it is taking time out of my day, i could be questing but instead of leveling im doing a nice thing and buffing you for no cost.
Unless you are being sarcastic... but, that's just really pompous if it's not sarcasm. no im not being sarcastic.
I am a cleric, and I like to play one, but part of being a cleric is supporting others WHEN THEY NEED IT. If they have a better buff than I can give, I don't buff them, when people ask for a rez I ask them if they're sure they want mine because it's low or if they want to call another person. If you can't be a nice support class, reroll please. You're marring the image. -_-; clerics are a support class there is no nice there is no mean, its just a support class. we give that support on our schedule not theres. thats just how you work you can be nice if you want too so there is no need for me to reroll im happy with what i do and that is all that matters.
People who get long term buffs that can't be given by pots(that I know of) like the physical and magical defense buffs or bramble; and didn't want one, sorry 'bout that. >_>;if they didn't want it then there would be no point of cleric to have buffing skills.
so ya.............0 -
I_can_heal_ - Harshlands wrote: »still ungreatfull im saving you money. again im taking my own time out the day to give you a free buff that uses money so techinaly i should be charging you huh? if i started charging people who pmed me asking me to rez them wow i would be rich.
By your argument, you're kinda wasting their time and money if you overwrite their 10 hp/sec powder with your less effective buff, so maybe you owe them money??0 -
i even said at the end of my post im not ungrateful and such, @ I_can_heal, its not *taking time our ur day* to buff some1 at all, some1 wud only dare ask for a buff if ur next to them, or u wud randomly buff them if ur next to them, so no time taken out, maby 10 seconds at max?
nothing u can do in 10 seconds thats vital...i think?
but yea, reason i did start the thread was cos having a hp powder on a assasin is vital to quest/grind unless i wonna be using 1-2 hp pots per mob with the damage we take, either that or a hiero in which i cant offord.
on a side note, with the seconds were taking out ur day of being a support cleric, take an extra second to see if we have a seprate hp regen buff on, thats ur answer to (no regen buff plz).
once again im not ungrateful, just wish clerics wud be more careful cos it is hurting more then helping in some cases.0 -
I'll remember that pathetic whining over a simple thing as an apo pot next time someone asks me for a buff.
I'll just tell em to sod off and go my own way.
I'm kinda tired of seeing pathetic little wankers moan about their apo pot going to waste when all the cleric does is trying to be friendly and giving them a buff.
I don't see any clerics moaning about their mp charms ticking when they give someone HR buffs.
Ffs, grow up and deal with it. Next time you Do want a buff, they should just tell you to **** off. I for one won't buff ANYone outside faction or squad anymore. And rezzing is absolutely out of the question, go buy yourself some scrolls. Freakin ticks me off all this whinin about some stupid apo pot.
And fyi, i din't see any barbs/bm's complaining about using hp pots before ... figures it has to be a new sin that can't handle the heat or plays it badly. Every class has its drawbacks, sins use hp pots. Simple.0 -
I_can_heal_ - Harshlands wrote: »still ungreatfull im saving you money. again im taking my own time out the day to give you a free buff that uses money so techinaly i should be charging you huh? if i started charging people who pmed me asking me to rez them wow i would be rich.
Your missing the point entirely. Your little 10/hp regen destroys their 50+hp regen. Something that cost THEM money and is better than the **** you just cast on them. So you wasted their money, possibly got them killed while doing it because their regen is now less than it was before, and you expect them to be great full to you for it?
Your a frickin idiot. That is all I have to say, your simply to stupid to even dress yourself. Go back to licking windows, really. Your better at it than trying to think logically
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Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »I don't see any clerics moaning about their mp charms ticking when they give someone HR buffs.
quoted for the damn truth, this is part of the reason I dont wear spirit charms anymore.0 -
I am sure they gave us this conflict so we could have an excuse to PK clerics that buff people randomly.0
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Rebutia - Harshlands wrote: »I am sure they gave us this conflict so we could have an excuse to PK clerics that buff people randomly.
rofl. Thanks you made me spit coffee on my LCD monitor.
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I'd rather have a full set of cleric buffs and have to pop another powder than have just the powder alone. Especially the defense buffs. Then again, I've got over 100 Life Powders as a result of being a packrat and grabbing every herb I see across 4 different alts.0
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Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'll remember that pathetic whining over a simple thing as an apo pot next time someone asks me for a buff.
I'll just tell em to sod off and go my own way.
fyi it wasnt whining that i was doing it was just sticking my thoughts onto the forum and asking clerics to be abit more careful when buffing, even a 5 year old can spot 1 buff on a player and assume the obvious.
I'm kinda tired of seeing pathetic little wankers moan about their apo pot going to waste when all the cleric does is trying to be friendly and giving them a buff.
I don't see any clerics moaning about their mp charms ticking when they give someone HR buffs.
u clearly need to calm down here aswell, also clerics wont moan about there charm ticking cos there the one that wanted to buff randomly unless we asked, and u can always say no if u dont want ur charm to tick, simple as.
Ffs, grow up and deal with it. Next time you Do want a buff, they should just tell you to **** off. I for one won't buff ANYone outside faction or squad anymore. And rezzing is absolutely out of the question, go buy yourself some scrolls. Freakin ticks me off all this whinin about some stupid apo pot.
And fyi, i din't see any barbs/bm's complaining about using hp pots before ... figures it has to be a new sin that can't handle the heat or plays it badly. Every class has its drawbacks, sins use hp pots. Simple.
barbs or BM's dont need to complain about using hp pots as there wearing heavy armour, when u gota use 1-2 hp pots per mob in LA at close range im sure ull understand why the hp powder is realy needed as clearly u have no idea, fighting mobs atm with 700 hp and they do about 100 per hit...kinda takes its toll.
i seriously cant see why its so hard for a cleric to just take that extra second to view any current buffs that may be an apo pot and just use ur other 2-3 buffs.0 -
My experience was that when there was a well-intentioned but clueless buffer in the area, they don't stop at buffing once. They'll buff you, then a few minutes later they'll buff you again. And again, and again, until they get bored and leave. So it's not just a matter of popping one extra powder. You have to keep using them, just live with the lower hp regen of the cleric buffs and sit to med between fights, or give up and leave the area.Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »I'd rather have a full set of cleric buffs and have to pop another powder than have just the powder alone. Especially the defense buffs. Then again, I've got over 100 Life Powders as a result of being a packrat and grabbing every herb I see across 4 different alts.
Also, I don't think the extra cleric buffs help melee types in most cases where they'd use life powder. If you're relying on life powder to stay alive, you can already handle the mobs you're fighting. Having higher pdef just means you take less damage. But the life powder was already keeping you near full hp anyway. Taking less damage damage doesn't help any since you can't go above full hp.0 -
So basically, you are complaining about people being nice you?
To all clerics, venos and any other passer by buffers:
I always welcome your buffs, even if you buff over do my pot! I strive to thank you if I notice the buff in time, so please keep buffing! And if you want to squad with me, I will happily give anyone a full Aura of the Golden Bell at any time!
Thx
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I've had many times that I've targeted someone to random buff on my cleric and noticed apoth powders. And I immediately adjust and skip the hp/mp buff. If you're a cleric and you're unable to notice apoth powders you either fail at your class (you need to recognise buff icons to be good, or else you'll melee a bramble mob or miss out on using a spell on a pys marrow BM) or you're just being lazy (which kinda negates the "being nice" point of randomly buffing)0
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normally i just don't buff someone if they have them. I use a buff macro so to skip it requires opening the skill list and hiting each one. though for certain classes or someone looks like they are struggling i will do so.
I think i might have overwrote buffs once or twice just being in a hurry trying to buff everyone around before they got away. typically in low level areas where even if they have cleric buffs they are likely not good ones
when on my alts i have not once had my pots overrode I guess i have been lucky. I always thank cleric's and veno's who stop to buff me. heck i have even had cleric's buff me on my cleric when i didnt realize they had run out![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I'm kinda divided here. I try to see if people are buffed before doing random buffs, but the prevailing attitude is really a slap in the face to gratuity. If anything, this attitude makes me far less likely to buff people at all, when the error isn't with the clerics here but with the developers.0
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Velarious - Heavens Tear wrote: »i even said at the end of my post im not ungrateful and such, @ I_can_heal, its not *taking time our ur day* to buff some1 at all, some1 wud only dare ask for a buff if ur next to them, or u wud randomly buff them if ur next to them, so no time taken out, maby 10 seconds at max?
nothing u can do in 10 seconds thats vital...i think?
but yea, reason i did start the thread was cos having a hp powder on a assasin is vital to quest/grind unless i wonna be using 1-2 hp pots per mob with the damage we take, either that or a hiero in which i cant offord.
on a side note, with the seconds were taking out ur day of being a support cleric, take an extra second to see if we have a seprate hp regen buff on, thats ur answer to (no regen buff plz).
once again im not ungrateful, just wish clerics wud be more careful cos it is hurting more then helping in some cases.
Some clerics do fly around with the specific purpose of buffing lowbies who are grinding.. You dont consider that as a cleric taking time out to be nice?I have no use for signatures... hypocrisy aside xD0 -
Yuufa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Some clerics do fly around with the specific purpose of buffing lowbies who are grinding.. You dont consider that as a cleric taking time out to be nice?
just before i bother, i diddnt mention anything about clerics flying around with there own free time to give buffs to random lowbies, nor did i say thats not using there time to be nice.
the reason i said the thing u quoted me on was this...Pegasi - Lost City wrote: »It takes....two damn seconds to buff someone. So don't even pull that "I took time out of my day--" BS.I_can_heal_ - Harshlands wrote: »no im pretty sure it takes more than 2 damn seconds to buff someone and yes it is taking time out of my day, i could be questing but instead of leveling im doing a nice thing and buffing you for no cost.
pegasi saying it takes a quick 2 seconds to buff some, i_can_heal saying it takes more then 2 seconds to spam buffs in with that time cud be questing.
dont make me seem ungrateful...which ive already said 2 times im not ungrateful, just clerics need to be careful, not hard is it?0
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