Well i decided to try to be a veno

Foxhotty - Lost City
Foxhotty - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Venomancer
What is better veno build LA or arcane? o_O n explain why
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  • Luixo - Sanctuary
    Luixo - Sanctuary Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Depends which way you like it, I got friends which are LA and HA, Just depends the way you like to fight...
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  • Foxhotty - Lost City
    Foxhotty - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    well im preparing this alt to make lota money n be able to solo fb bh etc o_o n someday TT when i get herc b:surrender
  • ElonaFiorna - Sanctuary
    ElonaFiorna - Sanctuary Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Foxhotty - Lost City wrote: »
    well im preparing this alt to make lota money n be able to solo fb bh etc o_o n someday TT when i get herc b:surrender

    Then you want pure arcane, 1 str 9 mag everyone 2 levels.
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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  • Yaxana - Sanctuary
    Yaxana - Sanctuary Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'm pure DD arcane and I wouldn't have it any other way. I used to be LA build till lvl 50 but I killed mobs too slow so I switched to AA. If you want fast killing in PvE go arcane and put most of your points in Mag ( I put ALL my points in Mag, I only have 3 Vit ), if you want PvP, I don't know, I guess LA and HA would be better. With my build I can pretty much solo most TTs and FBs. More points in Mag -> better pet healing. The downside is that you will be squashy against ph-attack AOE from certain bosses and probably get owned by some classes on a PvP server. But in the end it's up to you, if you don't like a certain build just use a reset scroll and problem solved.
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    pure magic cuz its

    higher magic atack = more heal on pet and more damagae form your spells

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  • Foxhotty - Lost City
    Foxhotty - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    here's the explanation.
    instead of being smartass u could just linked me to a real thread not to the search thing this my alt i know how to use search i just hate how is developed.
    Yaxana - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm pure DD arcane and I wouldn't have it any other way. I used to be LA build till lvl 50 but I killed mobs too slow so I switched to AA. If you want fast killing in PvE go arcane and put most of your points in Mag ( I put ALL my points in Mag, I only have 3 Vit ), if you want PvP, I don't know, I guess LA and HA would be better. With my build I can pretty much solo most TTs and FBs. More points in Mag -> better pet healing. The downside is that you will be squashy against ph-attack AOE from certain bosses and probably get owned by some classes on a PvP server. But in the end it's up to you, if you don't like a certain build just use a reset scroll and problem solved.

    Thx for the info ^__^ b:bye
  • Yaxana - Sanctuary
    Yaxana - Sanctuary Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    EDIT: hy yaxana xD
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    Foxhotty - Lost City wrote: »
    Thx for the info ^__^ b:bye
    You're welcome, and also as AA you can solo Astralwalker in 2-2 Squad Mode, I think that alone is worth going AA. I don't know if that's possible with LA/HA ( without a Lunar weapon ).
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  • Seika_Chi - Dreamweaver
    Seika_Chi - Dreamweaver Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i heard LA build should be good for PvP, but i got no idea since im a mag/vit build , i used to be pure mag. also LA got better use of the fox form, and okay use of the human form. AA got sad use of fox forum (the dmg skills, the curses work the same ^^) but great human skills. HA use the fox forum the best, and the human form really sad.

    Mag/vit build is simply to have a little more HP on the cost of dmg. u use AArmor still. its usually like this 1str 6-8mag n 1-3vit every 2 lvls. When that is said i've got the bad habbit to be the time giver if my squad is about to die, so a bit extra hp does me good ^^;.

    =) except from that i liked my mag build also, i just got tired of me stealing agro and dieing too fast after that ^^;
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    LA IS USELESS

    vit arcane builds get better stats in everything except for m.atk when compared to pure mag/LA.

    add garnets to your armor, and get a minimum of 100 vit with bonuses. youll be a killing machine, and be able to handle any kind of damage that comes your way.
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  • Syn - Dreamweaver
    Syn - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Like the others said, it's all about how you play the game. On Sanctuary, my main was arcane until I was in the 50s, then switched to LA. So far it's worked for me, and yes I do have herc, I don't notice that much of a difference. I don't draw aggro from any mob unless I've attacked a mob before my herc gets aggro, ie I'm targetting more than one mob at a time.

    On Syn, I've been LA from the very beginning, I don't have a herc and am in no rush to get one, but I'm still doing quite well, I hardly die..actually since I started playing Syn regularly I've died maybe four times?

    I do have to watch my casting, I can't just nuke venomous, but as a veno, any type has to watch that. I've learned that after casting if I heal my pet, even if it doesn't need healed I can usually time my attacks.

    Also, like I said, no herc, but at lvl 30 I soloed fb 19, granted, I'm pretty sure others have done it, but going from being able to do most fbs blindfolded with herc, to soloing it without one at a low lvl was a great accomplishment for me.

    So yeah, it's up to the player to decide, maybe experiment and see which way you like it best.
  • Paigrande - Harshlands
    Paigrande - Harshlands Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    So far from what I hav seen LA venos are better then AA cuz u can still DD and you survive much more. Usually LA venos with nix dont worry alot about their dmg simply cuz of the bleed dmg from the pet :p
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  • screwnickslol
    screwnickslol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    arcane is pve

    la or ha/aa hybrid is pvp

    simple as that <_<

    pvp wise:
    la is the most balanced, but a skilled player who uses ha/aa hybrid is nearly untouchable
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    screwnickslol wrote: »
    arcane is pve

    la or ha/aa hybrid is pvp

    simple as that <_<

    pvp wise:
    la is the most balanced, but a skilled player who uses ha/aa hybrid is nearly untouchable

    .... OR they could wear robes and shard garnets to keep their high mdef and have decent phys def in PvP. That's what most of the smart ones do in the upper levels and it works very well.




    Pure mag if you want to maximize the damage you do and heals (though you'll be so squishy that people 30+ levels below you in LA will take less damage from physical attacks than you do and without a pet you'll drop faster than a sack of potatoes and yu'll always steal aggro from pets in lower level instances if you have a decent weapon or equip the blessing). I don't recommend doing this unless you plan on living in instances, avoiding AoEs like the plague, and have a herc as your meatshield so the odds of pet death can be lowered significantly.

    Vit/Mag if you want to keep high heals and damage while getting in some survivability. Since vit boosts HP, phys def, and mdef, your survival will increase a great deal while still keeping a high amount of damage. When you shard your armors with garnets, this build is pretty much as good as it gets for survival outside of maybe Heavy/Robe.

    LA if you want to have decent phys and magical resists as ell as boosting your crit. This build makes fox form quite a good deal more useful than the arcane builds since you'll have a bit of str behind your attacks there and will have decent defense at all times.

    Heavy/Robe is great for survival and PvP... but it also requires a good deal of effort to keep up with. I wouldn't recommend starting with this build unless you're very experienced or patient.
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you want PvP go LA demon, for extra crit to overcome charms.

    If you want PvE go AA sage for higher defences, higher pet heal and higher m.atk.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Foxhotty - Lost City wrote: »
    instead of being smartass u could just linked me to a real thread not to the search thing this my alt i know how to use search i just hate how is developed.


    Thx for the info ^__^ b:bye

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Foxhotty - Lost City wrote: »
    well im preparing this alt to make lota money n be able to solo fb bh etc o_o n someday TT when i get herc b:surrender

    Than you are wasting your time making that alt.... if the all reason to make it is to make money...

    The only way to make "lota money" is by merchandising, buy low and sell high. Any class can do that.

    You will never make lota money just by npcing items with a veno. You will make far more by making a barb alt, and running TTs, since you will have first pick, or by making an axe BM or a archer and AOE farming, or even by AOE farming poison mobs on a cleric or even running TTs as a cleric.

    Alternatively, sub TT runs with your main and get first pick, no matter what class you are.
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  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Foxhotty - Lost City wrote: »
    well im preparing this alt to make lota money n be able to solo fb bh etc o_o n someday TT when i get herc b:surrender

    Replan. Veno's at some points make more money than other classes, but everyone can make more than veno's eventually. BH has destroyed the value of molds from farming BH's, mirage have steadily gone down over time (and have taken a huge crash recently from packs... though that's probably temporary), and the cost of wine mats has gone up due to BH.

    TT mats go down over time, and it's actually more efficient to do them with a full squad rather than solo. If you're only making a veno for money, you're going to be rather disappointed. The ways a veno can make good money are the same as the ways other classes can, and in many cases such as TT... a veno is worse. Try a Barb in TT, a 2-3 run you'll get a 2-3 mil item (or 1 mil with bad drops), while the veno gets something worth significantly less.
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    edited December 2009
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  • Malkaviana - Dreamweaver
    Malkaviana - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    as many have said, depents on your playing style. i am arcane with few points in VIT(my first character and read it brings more survability). Anyway from what I read on Venomancer guides Heavy/Arcane might work better than light.
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