Tideborn Make wiz even more underpowered?
Centll - Dreamweaver
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From what Ive Read and have heard opinions from several people the two new classes coming out soon could be overpowered? This Concerns me because Im already part of a class considered underpowered by almost every other class. Well im going to get straight to the point; Psychic and barb teamed in Pvp would make them invincible? In Endgame Wiz is renown for hitting insane hits and can possibly take out Multible Targets with a Ult thats what makes wiz worth playing to many people. The preview Of the Psychic Clearly says no matter how much damage is taken the DD who inflicted it would feel the pain. Btw this is not a QQ in advance post im just curious what opinions other people have?
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Wiz....underpowered?
b:surrender Get higher level and you will see....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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in before.....MORE "Wiz are not underpowered" posts......0
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With the new buffs will make wizards even more of a threat b:surrender0
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Let's wait with conclusions about the new classes until they come out?9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0
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I think tideborns wont make wiz underpowered, but Im definely making 1 xD0
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Me and a few people in my guild were talking about tideborns in TW. Psychics are gonna be a force paired with a good wizzy.
b:surrenderPromised i would be a good psychicSins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
honestly i see assasins givving wizzies more trouble
cloak + rediculous physical spike damage?
that seems like a nazty combination against a wizzie or other robeGifs are hard to make work here0 -
yeah, but I would not worry that much for wizards. we have high pdef (at 95 full buffed more pdef than mdef) at all times. Clerics have high pdef only with plume shell up. So yeah, that will be the place where daggers will go through like butter.Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »honestly i see assasins givving wizzies more trouble
cloak + rediculous physical spike damage?
that seems like a nazty combination against a wizzie or other robe
The deadly combo will be a wiz and a Psy.
Tell u why: the damage reflect buff + the attk/lvl buff from Psy will basically make a good geared wizard undine+1shot most of the so/so geared LA. The control spells and dmg buffs from Psy in combo with the dmg/hit output of a wiz will be a nightmare for every class in PvP/TW
And YES, the new classes will be overpowered. No one would play them seriously otherwise. What do you need a cleric/wizard hybrid for? just get 1 or the other if u have the need. What do you need a archer/BM hybrid? get one or the other if u really need their skills.
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Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »yeah, but I would not worry that much for wizards. we have high pdef (at 95 full buffed more pdef than mdef) at all times. Clerics have high pdef only with plume shell up. So yeah, that will be the place where daggers will go through like butter.
The deadly combo will be a wiz and a Psy.
Tell u why: the damage reflect buff + the attk/lvl buff from Psy will basically make a good geared wizard undine+1shot most of the so/so geared LA. The control spells and dmg buffs from Psy in combo with the dmg/hit output of a wiz will be a nightmare for every class in PvP/TW
And YES, the new classes will be overpowered. No one would play them seriously otherwise. What do you need a cleric/wizard hybrid for? just get 1 or the other if u have the need. What do you need a archer/BM hybrid? get one or the other if u really need their skills.
New classes will be OP for a while, then PWI will nurf them to bring balance back in the game.
The psychic's sandstorm is a 5 second stunb:sad
why cant wizzy sandstorm be a 5 second stun?Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »The psychic's sandstorm is a 5 second stunb:sad
why can wizzy sandstorm be a 5 second stun?
Because that would be ridiculously unfair? o.o
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I figuered new classes will be OP as hell when they come out but as we learned from ALL other games and even Genie expansion is that NURF is something on the horizon for them no doubt..
So my plan is to roll a sin for a while but it will just be an alt my true main have and will always be this Wiz.....I just cant seem to play anything else no matter how hard I tried b:surrenderIs Back once more.
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Xegeth - Dreamweaver wrote: »Because that would be ridiculously unfair? o.o
Undine -> Sleep -> Sandstorm -> Stunned -> Channel an ulti, get a sammich -> kill >.<
it would still be fun :P
and i think psychic sandstorm is a 2spark skill...Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
great point!Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »yeah, but I would not worry that much for wizards. we have high pdef (at 95 full buffed more pdef than mdef) at all times. Clerics have high pdef only with plume shell up. So yeah, that will be the place where daggers will go through like butter.
The deadly combo will be a wiz and a Psy.
Tell u why: the damage reflect buff + the attk/lvl buff from Psy will basically make a good geared wizard undine+1shot most of the so/so geared LA. The control spells and dmg buffs from Psy in combo with the dmg/hit output of a wiz will be a nightmare for every class in PvP/TW
And YES, the new classes will be overpowered. No one would play them seriously otherwise. What do you need a cleric/wizard hybrid for? just get 1 or the other if u have the need. What do you need a archer/BM hybrid? get one or the other if u really need their skills.
New classes will be OP for a while, then PWI will nurf them to bring balance back in the game.
people stop the QQ about sandstorm. we were able to make most archers miss all attacks until the latest genie changes which removed the accuracy debuff from blinding sand.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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How ever1 can be so sure, that new classes will be OP? I don't think so. Lot of people has big expectation, but I think they will be disappointed. Dev are not so stupid. OP new classes=leaving people=less money. Ever1 cannot be tideborns.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Yeah! It COULD be possible we just wanna play the new classes because it's something new to try! Pessimistic jerkwads!b:angry0
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There are concerns that assassins will make blademasters obsolete.
I think we should just wait and see how the classes play out. I see assassins as being similar to fist bms with stealth abilities and less DPS and psychics as hitting with neutral damage instead of elemental damage and some powerful add-ons (as well as lack thereof compared to wizards).
It'll make things interesting, and some classes will feel obsolete at first, but after a while we'll probably see that there are just some things that the Tideborn can't do that other classes can and that these classes are meant to compliment the PWI experience, not ruin it.
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Psychics have a skill that reflects any form of damage back as physical damage.
LOL @ Wizards one shotting themselves.....but it doesnt reduce damage so the psychic would get one shot toob:surrenderSins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
In response to the notion that all new classes will be overpowered and will make the former obselete, take a few moments to meditate on that possibility. Do you really think devs would make classes that
could make others useless? Does that make sense? Why does everyone suppose that they will fit into the schema of other classes, don't you think, they'd bring to the table different styles? Every class is good at various things, the introduction of a new class should open doors to new things as well. It does not always have to encroach on others. IMO wizzy's will remain the best DD's of the game, pyschics and assassins will bring new facets to the game, as they should. Classes aren't upgraded, different ones are brought to the fore.0 -
no way will the psycics reflect debuff work in pvp
*poits at bramble* thats what you should expect
but ya deffinitly getting dragonfire on my geni to have any hope of getting through that turtle buff of theirsGifs are hard to make work here0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »Psychics have a skill that reflects any form of damage back as physical damage.
LOL @ Wizards one shotting themselves.....but it doesnt reduce damage so the psychic would get one shot toob:surrender
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lol and barbs perdition themselves to death.
xD
and clerics tempest themselves to death.
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Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »Psychics have a skill that reflects any form of damage back as physical damage.
LOL @ Wizards one shotting themselves.....but it doesnt reduce damage so the psychic would get one shot toob:surrender
LOL... Wiz sneaks up on psych, one shot psych, dies by reflect. Soem random lvl 20 nub walks by and collects the items dropped while both dead people complain. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
lol, that'll be funny as hell.
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+1Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »lol, that'll be funny as hell.
learn2bind itemsJoshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »no way will the psycics reflect debuff work in pvp
*poits at bramble* thats what you should expect
but ya deffinitly getting dragonfire on my geni to have any hope of getting through that turtle buff of theirs
it does work in pvp. Been confirmed. Its different from venos bramble because their's reduces damage. Psychic takes full damage but reflects it back as physical damage.Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Centll - Dreamweaver wrote: »This Concerns me because Im already part of a class considered underpowered by almost every other class.
35k crits @ 75 with no HF EP or frenzy and non sparked is underpowered?
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im scared, i saw a video of a phychic tanking, a wizard that can tank doesnt sound very safe to other classes b:shocked0
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XXxXWoLfXxXx - Harshlands wrote: »im scared, i saw a video of a phychic tanking, a wizard that can tank doesnt sound very safe to other classes b:shocked
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If I may voice my opinion... (I know I'm still low in levels) b:surrender
But here's what I think after reading those posts about the Tideborns. As wizards, I don't really think we could be overpowered. It's more like, it won't affect wizzies. That 'cloaking' and 'one-shot' skills of a sin might sound awesome but still, that's all about luck and your tactics in playing. The possibility that they'll be the best (nor there's any) in endgame or overpower other classes isn't supposed to be said until 9x/10x wizzies duel with the same levels of Tideborns. And I do doubt they could beat wizzies in normal attack (wizzies are to deliver massive damages even if they don't crit, that's a fact, not to mention their DoT or AoE when a sin do cloak himself). A wiz could simply undine and sutra combo before they even finish their channelling (I'm talking about endgame here though) b:surrender
My opinion stands still that wizzies are awesome the way they are and it worth the time spent on them. I'm going to make this my main so I'll get to see how much I could control my character and find out some strategies eventually.
As for experimenting, I think it's not really a bad idea to try the new races, as an alt, that is. And even if I do, I'll roll a psychic b:cute
Edit : New server... Now I might have to reconsider this >.<0
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