Lured WorldBoss: Soul Hunter & Arch Southgate

Foltern - Sanctuary
Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
edited November 2009 in General Discussion
The question was: Can users get banned for luring world bosses near cities?

The answer was stated people can get banned for luring bosses near cities if reported with sufficient evidence. The purpose of the thread has been fulfilled.

A video link will be posted shortly of this event. It is not my intention to have users banned at all. There was no harm done to anyone and the members of Misfit5 were not trying to cause trouble or harm anyone.
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    soul hunter doesnt hurt people, just just spams status effects. he wont kill anyone in a town.
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  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Most definitely yes, it is bannable. Luring any sort of boss to a safe zone and cities are a bannable offense.
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote:
    soul hunter doesnt hurt people, just just spams status effects. he wont kill anyone in a town.
    As far as I know it doesn't matter. Friend of mine lured a non-aoe boss to secure zone and he was banned to my knowledge.
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  • TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary
    TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »

    My question: Is luring WorldBosses near cities and through grind areas bannable?

    To my understanding, yes it is.
  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    please submit a ticket if you wish anything to actually be done, screenshots might help. http://support.perfectworld.com/ticketing
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    heh .... O.o
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    its bannable but you have to prove they lured it all you showed was people fighting it by west arch what about the people who lured it from there to arch.
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  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Remoed. Sorry
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Plicid - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    please submit a ticket if you wish anything to actually be done, screenshots might help. http://support.perfectworld.com/ticketing

    The reason for posting this is not to get people banned. The reason is to clarify whether or not this is allowed and what people think about it. I've submitted tickets in the past. It is not effective those cases will not be discussed.

    Regards
  • TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary
    TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Just by watching that video, I would say that PVM guy lured it.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The video shows my hp drop at various times to half and I take damage. I use pots for this. I think it only happens once in the footage I recorded. It happened when I first logged in.

    Regards
    its an hp reduction debuff, not damage, but yes its bannable. though soul hunter doesnt hurt you :P. you can sit for all day auto attacking him and solo it at like 70
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Why would u go through the trouble luring a boss all the way to Archo - that doesn't even kill people with aoe b:bored
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Removed sorry.
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Removed sorry.
  • Mad_Doc - Sanctuary
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Although it reduced my hp. from 2k to 1k. It seems to have dealt damage to me as well. Unless that is part of the HP debuff. At 1 minute 53 seconds you can see my reduced HP then it more than 600 more is drained.

    Regards

    Yes his debuff is -50% max hp. Once it wears off you get full max hp again but your lost 50% hp doesn't go back to normal so it seems like you are being damaged. I can assure you that a world boss can do about 5k-6k dmg per hit to a barb lvl 90 in tiger form. If it was truly attacking you there is no way you would only have 50% hp and not completely dead.
  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    b:chuckle Soul hunter couldn't even kill a level 1 but a level 1 would never kill it either. So long as you stay away from him and have aggro at a distance he will only debuff half hp which wears off and then he does it again he slows casting time it is the easiest boss out there. But it will tick your charm if you have one cause it knocks hp down to 50%.

    dam you mad_doc
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    im suprised the gate guards didnt kill it as soon as it came up. how close did it actually get, and what is the guards' aggro range?
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  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes his debuff is -50% max hp. Once it wears off you get full max hp again but your lost 50% hp doesn't go back to normal so it seems like you are being damaged. I can assure you that a world boss can do about 5k-6k dmg per hit to a barb lvl 90 in tiger form. If it was truly attacking you there is no way you would only have 50% hp and not completely dead.

    Thank you. so the answer is, My max hp was reduces because of the aoe, My hp was reduced 50% because of a secondary aoe skill. This is in no way how the monster attacks players and I was not in danger of dying at all. Is that correct?

    Regards.
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    im suprised the gate guards didnt kill it as soon as it came up. how close did it actually get, and what is the guards' aggro range?

    Guards, to my knowledge, will not attack something unless it attacks them or you are red-named. Judging from the video the guards did not get hit by AOE, thus did not aggro.
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  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    im suprised the gate guards didnt kill it as soon as it came up. how close did it actually get, and what is the guards' aggro range?

    Well, It was the southgate. Also I am not sure. Check the video and draw your own conclusion about that one. I don't have any knowledge of how that works. Never mind it was answered above ^o^

    Regards
  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    b:kiss There are dummy guards all over the place that won't attack you not all the gates in arch have them that is one that doesn't attack you but normally if ANY mob or red named played get near them they will attack it and 1 shot it. And the 1600 hp was it wearing off totally harmless boss. Yes technically you get banned for luring bosses but I dunno it was kinda stupid and didn't do a thing so yah.
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  • Mad_Doc - Sanctuary
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Thank you. so the answer is, My max hp was reduces because of the aoe, My hp was reduced 50% because of a secondary aoe skill. This is in no way how the monster attacks players and I was not in danger of dying at all. Is that correct?

    Regards.

    His hp debuff only lasts for a few seconds. Once it ends you get 100% MAX hp, but your real hp is still 50% from max. When you are debuffed, you have 1k hp but your max hp is also 1k. When debuff is gone you have 2k hp max, but your hp is still 1k. But correct, you are in no danger at all. This is also how any range attacker can solo soul hunter. He doesn't do damage to them.
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:kiss There are dummy guards all over the place that won't attack you not all the gates in arch have them that is one that doesn't attack you but normally if ANY mob or red named played get near them they will attack it and 1 shot it. And the 1600 hp was it wearing off totally harmless boss. Yes technically you get banned for luring bosses but I dunno it was kinda stupid and didn't do a thing so yah.

    So luring a world boss is bannable, even if it doesn't harm anyone, And it just burns their charm.?

    Regards
  • Foltern - Sanctuary
    Foltern - Sanctuary Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    His hp debuff only lasts for a few seconds. Once it ends you get 100% MAX hp, but your real hp is still 50% from max. When you are debuffed, you have 1k hp but your max hp is also 1k. When debuff is gone you have 2k hp max, but your hp is still 1k. But correct, you are in no danger at all. This is also how any range attacker can solo soul hunter. He doesn't do damage to them.

    Thank you.

    Regards
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »
    Why would u go through the trouble luring a boss all the way to Archo - that doesn't even kill people with aoe b:bored

    Mass lag for starters. The aoe would simultaneously fire out at the hundred+ players hanging around arch. Would probably crash a lot of players and catshops.
    Secondly Soul Hunter has aoe stun, meaning anyone nearby would be barely able to move anywhere.
  • Chezedude - Dreamweaver
    Chezedude - Dreamweaver Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:chuckle Soul hunter couldn't even kill a level 1 but a level 1 would never kill it either. So long as you stay away from him and have aggro at a distance he will only debuff half hp which wears off and then he does it again he slows casting time it is the easiest boss out there. But it will tick your charm if you have one cause it knocks hp down to 50%.

    dam you mad_doc

    no a lvl 1 could kill it.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Chezedude - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    no a lvl 1 could kill it.

    Would, not could.
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hmm, so if guards can 1 shot bosses, what if you have a quest in which you have to kill a boss and you lure it all the way to arch and the guards one-shot it?
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  • Magicsaber - Dreamweaver
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »
    Hmm, so if guards can 1 shot bosses, what if you have a quest in which you have to kill a boss and you lure it all the way to arch and the guards one-shot it?

    Guard will complete your quest.

    Quest is completed by those single character, who do most of damage.

    And this character will get reward.

    You can check it killing simple mobs together with another single player or at Oracle quest.
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Guard will complete your quest.

    Quest is completed by those single character, who do most of damage.

    And this character will get reward.

    You can check it killing simple mobs together with another single player or at Oracle quest.
    So if I lured jewelcasen there, my quest would be complete? And do I get any exp and items?(*cough* harpy wraith *cough*).
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »
    So if I lured jewelcasen there, my quest would be complete? And do I get any exp and items?(*cough* harpy wraith *cough*).

    im not sure if you get the kill but assuming it did
    you will get banned so you dont have gain by luring itb:chuckle
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