The Concept of Unstoppable

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  • I_missU - Dreamweaver
    I_missU - Dreamweaver Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    lol actually I DID ask or asked by many players,

    why u left ur faction, and why join calamity.

    No way a player come to a Calamity member and say "hey can I join ur faction? I interested with the tw payment"

    I was asked by many players why at this level i didnt join calamity or other tw faction, and i ask them back why calamity, they simply said "its calamity, u see their teritory? they never lose and can u imagine their tw payment?"

    and i asked the reason he left his faction they simply answer me "They loser,"

    lol???

    Ugh and guess what, some of those players who had conversation with me already in Calamity. We said not all people who come to Calamity want TW paycheck, but there are some of them come because of that, dont deny that.
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  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    argh come on guys... funny compare TW to TT. I rather go to TW and having fun + get pay, than go to TT with a chance to die and lose exp and how frustrating a not fair split sometimes happen + double job to wait it to sold (plus AH 5% fee if the items sold. or maybe just me who hate this >.<)

    u know why people buy mats cuz they dont want to run TT. sheesh.

    TW = fun, but massive loss of charm, loss of pots, loss of apo, and sometimes a money sink when your pay comes out less than what you spent. In the end you have to decide between money and fun, and if you just rely on TW Pay then you'll go broke soon enough.

    TT = not so fun, minor loss charm and death (if your party sucks), loss of pots. It sometimes takes just as long as TW and you come out with several million profit. And you being an archer you can just - as Andres mentioned - afk attack on every boss and not lose anything. Get a GS or two or get a Cleric willing to farm TT with you - and believe me, there are a lot - and find a Barb or a Veno to tank, cause more often than not they do need some help on instances such as 2-3 and 3-1 (TTs that are popular at 85+)

    Also, these things can be fun - listen to some music, catch up on some work, use vent, use party chat... it's all a matter of opinion. Yea, some people don't find it fun at all, but as my friend told me on a TT a few days ago: "Several million profit > an hour of being bored."

    lol actually I DID ask or asked by many players,

    why u left ur faction, and why join calamity.

    No way a player come to a Calamity member and say "hey can I join ur faction? I interested with the tw payment"

    I was asked by many players why at this level i didnt join calamity or other tw faction, and i ask them back why calamity, they simply said "its calamity, u see their teritory? they never lose and can u imagine their tw payment?"

    and i asked the reason he left his faction they simply answer me "They loser,"

    lol???

    Ugh and guess what, some of those players who had conversation with me already in Calamity. We said not all people who come to Calamity want TW paycheck, but there are some of them come because of that, dont deny that.

    Check out the applications part of our forum - which is public - and look up one of the newer applications, because that is the exact same reason there... at least they're truthful. b:laugh
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  • Illyana - Dreamweaver
    Illyana - Dreamweaver Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Again with the flames. Why can't people stop judging reasons to join said faction? See everyone has a different point of view regarding a person play style, have you actually asked said person why are they leaving? have they actually answered, "I just want to get a better paycheck" or "I'm tired of losing"?.

    If I was to be that judgamental to every EQ members that didn't chose Calamity I could probably say, yeah they joined EQ only because they couldn't join Calamity. Actually, a couple friends I've got in EQ, that I met in gamma range with my archer said, yeah. I actually applied or wanted to apply to calamity first but you guys kept changing the level requirement on me so I went to EQ. Names that come to my head just now: Aoi, Pedestrian, that cleric and BM couple that withdrew their application for being PKed in a PK room in cube... the list goes on. Now that this players have found a home in Equinox, they don't want to leave and are very loyal and love their faction. I rather see them as the new loyal Equinox members instead of the members that joined because they either hate(or hated) calamity or calamity lead (like Juice particularly with Seraphim) or because they couldn't get in because of level cap or straight faction denial (like Nicoal). Same applies to the persons that left or were "forced out" of Calamity to join EQ... As I said, it's not nice to be so judgamental =P

    Pointing fingers is rather easy to cover up personal flaws. Sometimes, the best answer can be found within your own ranks. The most common comment from any new member (from any faction, not just EQ) that comes to Calamity and meets the TW system is "I was never made to use vent, and I can't believe such level of TW organization". The key to beat Calamity faster is to stop blaming, judging, finger pointing and flaming them for everything they do/get and start taking solutions on your own. Make your own boss days instead of flaming ours in WC, It costs nothing but teles, its so easy to coordinate and see how much people needs and appreciates help. It took Equinox 2 months after people completed gammas in DW to actually implement a reward system for their RB squads, took them as long as getting Etherblade taken to actually introduce a pay system to every member that makes the effort to come into TW but cannot go in cause of level... if you don't cater to your factionmates and the server, don't expect them to remain or to preffer your faction when they reach a level cap. If I could relate a new applicant to a growing child (based merely in the ammount of personal experiences they've had with Calamity, not trying to offend anyone) You don't just accept a new member into your family and expect him/her to live on its own. There are house rules, bed times for the kids, curfews for the teenagers, kitchen hours, TV hours, duties for them all.... this "rules" might be annoying at some times, but they are there to ensure greater community. People in vent actually develop new friends and get squads for their TTs, RBs, BHs, FCs... It takes time to fit in (just like anywhere else) takes more time, money and dedication to teach everyone everything, but in the end, its far more rewarding that way, its what Equinox has been doing lately and we can tell by the harder TWs we've been facing.

    This isn't a flame, it is a fact. Some do. If you would like examples, I can PM names of active Cala to you, or you can see the reasons in the public applications to your faction. I'm not trying to flame or troll bait anyone, mostly because I just don't care and I respect the privacy of those who've made the switch for that reason. The "which is sad" is my opinion, and you're welcome to take it or leave it as such. I'm not sure why you've gone on with a long diatribe and telling me that it is due to "personal flaws" that Cala hasn't been beaten, my opinion is that it is simply unfortunate that some people would switch over to Calamity purely because they do not think that they can grow, or help out their current faction. It is again my opinion to believe that this is unfortunate and much akin to taking an easy way out instead of investing time and energy to make something better. In the end, it is probably better that people who are not geared towards working hard and implementing positive faction changes go to the competition, anyhow.
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  • I_missU - Dreamweaver
    I_missU - Dreamweaver Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    funny lieal. application means nothing truthful.

    ithey want to join calamity ofc they said all good about calamity. NO WAY they say "hey i want to join calamity cuz of TW n TW pay" really. lol ur simple minded.

    I can say now. " I want to join calamity because people there kind, never pick on lower levels, helpfull, funny." really?

    people can lie on application lady.
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  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    funny lieal. application means nothing truthful.

    ithey want to join calamity ofc they said all good about calamity. NO WAY they say "hey i want to join calamity cuz of TW n TW pay" really. lol ur simple minded.

    I can say now. " I want to join calamity because people there kind, never pick on lower levels, helpfull, funny." really?

    people can lie on application lady.

    If you actually read what I posted, their reason for joining Calamity is just that - "The pay is nice." THAT is what I was talking about being truthful, because a lot of people do apply here thinking the pay is nice - they just don't say it outright, and it's nice to see someone actually not BSing their way through the reasons; and believe me, I'm pretty sure I know that people lie on these applications better than you do. ;)
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  • woothepo
    woothepo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Until we actually have the confirmation of this from the GMs, this all stays in theory - look at the first gank of the server; TheTitans, Immortal, and - HighTimeZ I believe? - all of these were EQ in the middle, Immortal to the left, TheTitans to the right, HighTimeZ not on the map. Let's look at Immortal + Equinox + Armagedon vs. Calamity - Armagedon, Equinox and Calamity are - were - still all on the same placement of the map. The timing of the gank is affected by the time when the factions attack - EQ, Arma and Immortal all attacked within several minutes of each other, and got in on the gank. Look at all the smaller factions attacking Calamity now, and these are the ones that are messed up the gank of EQ and Arma. They both just have bad luck, it appears. b:laugh

    Again, get me a GM to confirm that placement effects the timing of the TW, and I'll be perfectly happy to shut up.
    2 weeks ago when the likes of USSR, Dominion, and Tempest attacked proved that location had no effect on timing.

    Dominion attacked near the top right, Tempest or somebody was slightly lower and more to the left, and Equinox was in the top left, higher up than Dominion.

    The TWs went in that order. It followed no logical sense of order. Maybe because it IS random as the TW mechanics suggest. b:shocked

    TW Times are random? K lets see here

    twtimes.jpg
    twtimes2.jpg

    Look at where the factions that attacked calamity are on the map, and what days they get, obviously the tw times are made from the top of the map to the bottom, yeah, sure is random.
  • I_missU - Dreamweaver
    I_missU - Dreamweaver Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    make that i know like u do, u never know how funny right after what they said to me the reason they want to join calamity and i read their application in calamity.. made me laugh to death
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  • MrLucky - Dreamweaver
    MrLucky - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    TW Times are Random. Nobody here on Dreamweaver that Particpates in Tw has knowledge of how and when the system that generates TW times will place a battle. Just because certain parties are not getting thier Ideal TW dates, they might be a little disgruntled...? I think so. b:bye
  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    woothepo wrote: »
    TW Times are random? K lets see here

    twtimes.jpg
    twtimes2.jpg

    Look at where the factions that attacked calamity are on the map, and what days they get, obviously the tw times are made from the top of the map to the bottom, yeah, sure is random.

    And let's have a look at the several weeks of TW Reports I've done, complete with times and dates; of you look at it, the TWs all have a very large range.
    Offense
    Defense:

    Territory War Weekend of 17/07/2009 – 19/07/2009
    Friday (17/06)
    xBushidox – Harshlands – Equinox (NW)
    Tempest- Dragon Wilderness – Calamity (W)
    Armagedon –Black Mountain - Dynasty (S)

    Saturday (18/06)
    Equinox – Etherblade – Etherblade (NE)
    Calamity – Dreamweaver Port – Dreamweaver Port (SE)
    HDT – Immolation Camp – ENVY (W)
    Dynasty – King’s Feast - Armagedon (S)
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map1.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)

    Territory War Weekend of 03/07/09 - 05/07/09


    Friday (03/07)
    Valkyrie - Buried Bones - Calamity (SW)
    GoodTimez - Hidden Orchid - Calamity (E)

    Saturday (04/07)
    Calamity - The Greak Lake - Armagedon (middle)
    Dynasty - Black Mountain - Imajica (S)
    Immortal - Immolation Camp - ENVY (W)
    xBushidox - King's Feast - Armagedon (S)
    Crusaders - Etherblade - Etherblade (NE)
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map2.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)

    Sunday (05/07)
    Armagedon - The White Ridge - xBushidox(S)

    Territory War Weekend of 19/06/09 – 21/06/09
    Friday (19/06)
    Armagedon – Swamp of the Wraiths - Calamity (SE)

    Saturday (20/06)
    Equinox – Ancient Wall – Immortal (W)
    Calamity – Hidden Orchid – Armagedon (E)
    FireStorm – Harshlands – Dynasty (NW)
    ENVY – Immolation Camp – Immortal (W)
    Crusaders – Ancient Peak – TheTitans (NE)
    GoodTimez – Walled Stronghold – TheTitans (NE)

    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map3.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)


    I have four more if you'd like to bring up even more proof, and I am still honestly want a GM's comment on this...
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  • Vo - Dreamweaver
    Vo - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ganklol.jpg

    Lol?! 10char
  • Andres - Dreamweaver
    Andres - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    If that was just a tad smaller, I'd have made it my signature. Priceless. Hope we all have a fun TW weekend, 9 hard wars is gonna be fun!
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  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    If that was just a tad smaller, I'd have made it my signature. Priceless. Hope we all have a fun TW weekend, 9 hard wars is gonna be fun!

    Exactly what Andres said - good luck to everybody this weekend~
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  • woothepo
    woothepo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    And let's have a look at the several weeks of TW Reports I've done, complete with times and dates; of you look at it, the TWs all have a very large range.
    Offense
    Defense:

    Territory War Weekend of 17/07/2009 – 19/07/2009
    Friday (17/06)
    xBushidox – Harshlands – Equinox (NW)
    Tempest- Dragon Wilderness – Calamity (W)
    Armagedon –Black Mountain - Dynasty (S)

    Saturday (18/06)
    Equinox – Etherblade – Etherblade (NE)
    Calamity – Dreamweaver Port – Dreamweaver Port (SE)
    HDT – Immolation Camp – ENVY (W)
    Dynasty – King’s Feast - Armagedon (S)
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map1.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)

    Territory War Weekend of 03/07/09 - 05/07/09


    Friday (03/07)
    Valkyrie - Buried Bones - Calamity (SW)
    GoodTimez - Hidden Orchid - Calamity (E)

    Saturday (04/07)
    Calamity - The Greak Lake - Armagedon (middle)
    Dynasty - Black Mountain - Imajica (S)
    Immortal - Immolation Camp - ENVY (W)
    xBushidox - King's Feast - Armagedon (S)
    Crusaders - Etherblade - Etherblade (NE)
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map2.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)

    Sunday (05/07)
    Armagedon - The White Ridge - xBushidox(S)

    Territory War Weekend of 19/06/09 – 21/06/09
    Friday (19/06)
    Armagedon – Swamp of the Wraiths - Calamity (SE)

    Saturday (20/06)
    Equinox – Ancient Wall – Immortal (W)
    Calamity – Hidden Orchid – Armagedon (E)
    FireStorm – Harshlands – Dynasty (NW)
    ENVY – Immolation Camp – Immortal (W)
    Crusaders – Ancient Peak – TheTitans (NE)
    GoodTimez – Walled Stronghold – TheTitans (NE)

    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/adopter_pets40/map3.jpg
    Green - Friday
    Yellow - Saturday
    (please excuse my fail drawing...)


    I have four more if you'd like to bring up even more proof, and I am still honestly want a GM's comment on this...

    The proof you're showing me is not what I'm talking about. Look at all the wars, no faction is getting attacked more than 3 times. I don't care about when one faction attacks another, of course the days will be random there because it's only one. I'm talking about when a faction gets attacked more than 3 times. When they're getting attack twice, of course it'll be on the same day, even 3 times will be on same day. But I'm talking about when a faction gets attacked more than 3 times. Your proof doesn't show anything. When a faction gets attacked more than 3 times, it's going to be determined from where they are on the map, top to bottom.
  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    woothepo wrote: »
    The proof you're showing me is not what I'm talking about. Look at all the wars, no faction is getting attacked more than 3 times. I don't care about when one faction attacks another, of course the days will be random there because it's only one. I'm talking about when a faction gets attacked more than 3 times. When they're getting attack twice, of course it'll be on the same day, even 3 times will be on same day. But I'm talking about when a faction gets attacked more than 3 times. Your proof doesn't show anything. When a faction gets attacked more than 3 times, it's going to be determined from where they are on the map, top to bottom.

    Okay, give me another several examples of when this has happened - just basing this on one or two weeks' worth of TWs doesn't really prove anything. Besides, you guys relocated this week and still no successful gank - maybe you're just unlucky? b:chuckle Stating that this is the truth with just one example isn't really proof at all.

    But all in all, like I said before, until I have a GM confirm this or strong proof that this is true, I'll still keep on believing the wars are random, and that's my last word on this topic. ;)
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    well, they relocated so we will try to relocate them again.
    let's see where they go now.
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  • Argyle - Dreamweaver
    Argyle - Dreamweaver Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    you should have a look at HT tw map, before this week i believed tw times were random as alot of people did. but clearly they are not random, they go from top left to bottom right. haven't figured the true order of the misfortune jumbled up areas yet. every guild is defending top left to bottom right in order though, so random is out the door. now will they change this, possibly, but doubtful. so a "gank" move could work in theory, but honestly i see calamity holding off the top three guilds, well i take that back if rumors are right and eq almost had them last week. either way, tw times are not random, battle coordinator has been wrong in the past when he used to say a guild could only hold 1 level 1 territory.
  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    you should have a look at HT tw map, before this week i believed tw times were random as alot of people did. but clearly they are not random, they go from top left to bottom right. haven't figured the true order of the misfortune jumbled up areas yet. every guild is defending top left to bottom right in order though, so random is out the door. now will they change this, possibly, but doubtful. so a "gank" move could work in theory, but honestly i see calamity holding off the top three guilds, well i take that back if rumors are right and eq almost had them last week. either way, tw times are not random, battle coordinator has been wrong in the past when he used to say a guild could only hold 1 level 1 territory.

    Hmm ok, if anyone also can see a pattern forming on other channels that'd be interesting to watch.

    And only reason Equinox almost had Calamity is because Calamity had barely any attendance for EQ and the other TWs that were going on at the time, and with Armagedon not even bothering to try on their TWs anymore... well, we'll see. And who's the third top faction?
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  • Andres - Dreamweaver
    Andres - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I've always wondered, why if you cannot "fix" a TW schedule, by inviting people to bid on such faction land. Why isn't purposedly losing TWs by not entering a TW defense. Like the empty crystals that Arma have been giving for about 5 weeks now. With the sole purpose of getting the schedule that benefits said guild (supossedly) when they're attacking with stronger factions... The fact that Armagedon members are defending such theory that the map schedule is setup from north to southern land defenses shouldn't be noted as "fixing TW schedule" and suitable for a ban?

    If the theory that schedule is made by land locations is correct, your attempt to "trick/fix" TW system, by not only purposedly losing 3 lands in 3 weeks by no show. But also trying to locate far to the north so you get a schedule with Equinox, should also be suited for a ban. Just my thoughts.
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  • Olee - Dreamweaver
    Olee - Dreamweaver Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    hmmm
    1- TW times arent radom that for sure
    2- how the fack can a Calamity nember lose money in a TW ? if so, take care ur leaders are keeping some money
    3- lets say is true, u can lose 5k each TW, imagine how much an EQ nember lose in a TW ( Cala has what ? 400m each weekend lets say - EQ has 70 )
    4-I dont think theres ppl in EQ for pays , theres 2 type of persons, the ones loyals to EQ and the ones that want to kill Cala, tho in Cala theres as well loyal ppl to Cala but lot of ppl that only wants money, be famous, win, etc etc.
    5- Is funny how the '' Unstoppable Calamity'' has to make other guilds bid on them for save their ****, they are actually scared I would say, but oh well is nothing new at all


    7- I know Andres will write a long answer to this post, so oh well say something new dont just repeat the same u said in the other posts, cuz damm 10 post and u allways say the same :(
  • Lightaine - Dreamweaver
    Lightaine - Dreamweaver Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Donde esta el numero 6?
    hai2u
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    hmmm
    1- TW times arent radom that for sure
    2- how the fack can a Calamity nember lose money in a TW ? if so, take care ur leaders are keeping some money
    3- lets say is true, u can lose 5k each TW, imagine how much an EQ nember lose in a TW ( Cala has what ? 400m each weekend lets say - EQ has 70 )
    4-I dont think theres ppl in EQ for pays , theres 2 type of persons, the ones loyals to EQ and the ones that want to kill Cala, tho in Cala theres as well loyal ppl to Cala but lot of ppl that only wants money, be famous, win, etc etc.
    5- Is funny how the '' Unstoppable Calamity'' has to make other guilds bid on them for save their ****, they are actually scared I would say, but oh well is nothing new at all


    7- I know Andres will write a long answer to this post, so oh well say something new dont just repeat the same u said in the other posts, cuz damm 10 post and u allways say the same :(

    and all of eq says the same thing "All Cala members are in it for the pay" and "oooh calamity has to have lower factions bid on them to save themselves"

    frankly you contradicted yourself there you said all times are not random yet why would it matter if they werent random? them bidding on us shouldnt change your guys attempt at a gank on us.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    hmmm
    1- TW times arent radom that for sure
    2- how the fack can a Calamity nember lose money in a TW ? if so, take care ur leaders are keeping some money
    3- lets say is true, u can lose 5k each TW, imagine how much an EQ nember lose in a TW ( Cala has what ? 400m each weekend lets say - EQ has 70 )
    4-I dont think theres ppl in EQ for pays , theres 2 type of persons, the ones loyals to EQ and the ones that want to kill Cala, tho in Cala theres as well loyal ppl to Cala but lot of ppl that only wants money, be famous, win, etc etc.
    5- Is funny how the '' Unstoppable Calamity'' has to make other guilds bid on them for save their ****, they are actually scared I would say, but oh well is nothing new at all


    7- I know Andres will write a long answer to this post, so oh well say something new dont just repeat the same u said in the other posts, cuz damm 10 post and u allways say the same :(
    +1/2
    You are missing number 6 Olee but i agree with you
    and all of eq says the same thing "All Cala members are in it for the pay" and "oooh calamity has to have lower factions bid on them to save themselves"

    frankly you contradicted yourself there you said all times are not random yet why would it matter if they werent random? them bidding on us shouldnt change your guys attempt at a gank on us.

    Uhhh dont you think all is taking it too much and if you are talking about Olee, he didnt say all

    tho in Cala theres as well loyal ppl to Cala but lot of ppl that only wants money, be famous, win, etc etc.

    Please point out in there where it says All Cala members are there for a paycheck plz. I think Olee meant that having people bid on land to protect it?
    Is funny how the '' Unstoppable Calamity'' has to make other guilds bid on them for save their ****, they are actually scared I would say, but oh well is nothing new at all

    He doesnt mention bidding times or ganks. Its really simple. Having one faction attack the land so another cant get to it.



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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    +1/2
    You are missing number 6 Olee but i agree with you



    Uhhh dont you think all is taking it too much and if you are talking about Olee, he didnt say all



    Please point out in there where it says All Cala members are there for a paycheck plz. I think Olee meant that having people bid on land to protect it?



    He doesnt mention bidding times or ganks. Its really simple. Having one faction attack the land so another cant get to it.




    some people should just not post on the forums


    look at his number 1 what do you see? i see him saying that tw times arent random and yet there in number 5 he says calamity has other factions bid on them. as you can see we have plenty of spots to be attacked at and he keeps referencing them ganking us frankly because they always do

    and like i said if the times aren't random then the fact remains the same it dont matter who bids on us the times wont change and it doesnt matter who attacks us thus he contradicted himself

    ps take your own advice.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Esc and all other Cala members.
    I'll ask you stop responding to the thread.
    no reason make us look as dumb, as the others there keep responding here.
    responding rarely helps, only worse, whenever ur right or not.
    being quite cant make it worse >.<

    /out again
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  • Olee - Dreamweaver
    Olee - Dreamweaver Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    yeah I guess is how cala does, they like to laught at the rest, speak about the rest, but when time comes to speak about their ****, they all hide, or start to lie ... whatever...

    As I said, times arent radom, ofc them are not, thats why some low bird factions bid in strategy spots, or just near where EQ / arma / any strong faction bids. I dont know tbh that USRJ or whatever faction that used to bid on HIDDEN ORCHID, somehow arma moves, they dont bid anymore, I wonder why. tho it was able to stop a gank from Arma,EQ and HDT ( if they would attack )

    I mean a 1k max fund faction exactly bids there, in a so strategy land for times, for me thats weird.

    Is a part of the game but oh well, we all know Cala does this almost all weekends. All factions have bad things and good things, and yeah but u guys in cala pretend to show it, as if it was all perfect, how about u guys talk less and so accept the things, nothing bad in want to win, or want to save a land, the worst thing is say fake bid isnt happening, when it.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    look at his number 1 what do you see? i see him saying that tw times arent random and yet there in number 5 he says calamity has other factions bid on them. as you can see we have plenty of spots to be attacked at and he keeps referencing them ganking us frankly because they always do

    and like i said if the times aren't random then the fact remains the same it dont matter who bids on us the times wont change and it doesnt matter who attacks us thus he contradicted himself

    ps take your own advice.

    Did you even read what i said? Factions pay smaller factions to attack their land so no other faction can bid on that spot. Olee never said anything about times. Take Heartstone's advice, he is a pretty smart guy/girl
    Esc and all other Cala members.
    I'll ask you stop responding to the thread.
    no reason make us look as dumb, as the others there keep responding here.
    responding rarely helps, only worse, whenever ur right or not.
    being quite cant make it worse >.<

    /out again
    +1




    Dreamweaver, has too much drama....and i myself will take Heartstone's advice and im done.

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    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
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  • Andres - Dreamweaver
    Andres - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    7- I know Andres will write a long answer to this post, so oh well say something new dont just repeat the same u said in the other posts, cuz damm 10 post and u allways say the same :(
    Lol.

    I'll say just one thing, and I'll make it 7-8 lines short so the lenght of my text doesnt **** over google translator. Sorry Olee b:surrender

    If you were in EQ out of love and loyalty... Why did you leave? I won't get into a flame war with you, not only because you're not worth anyone's time but mostly because I am also done lowering myself to your level of stupidity and getting beaten by your expertise... if I repeat my facts, it's cause I'm tired of listening to your (repeated) assumptions. USSR is a very small faction made of russian players (hence the USSR smart pants), like America which you should know as it's an all hispanic faction named for the continent, not the country. The day you link me to a vent recording, faction chat screenshot or forum link that shows proof, aside from Lightaine one mistake which costed us the loss of (potentially) 1 territory. it's the day I will say you know what, you're right.

    There's the google translation so you don't have to copy and paste. Thanks for comming out.
    Oh, and its 6 after 5 btw b:chuckle
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Wow the last few posts have been real... difficult to decipher, but I do have a vague clue of what Heartstone was trying to say.... silence is golden.

    Sometimes the best strategy is to be seen, and not 'heard,' though being heard every once in a while is NOT a bad thing AT all. It could either 'save' your rep or kill it, so to speak anyways.

    Now as for arma purposely not showing up for tw's to get somewhere else, (being bannable) well not only is this 'gank' NOT a sure thing, we still HAVE to get in on the same day, this is more or less gaining a 'slight' upperhand to 'overthrow' calamity's momentum at the moment. Though I can see why you would think that this is unfair, but like I said it is NOT a sure thing, we all could end up losing, but we will never know until we try.

    EDIT: Its kind of like counting cards in blackjack, it is NOT illegal, but the 'house' still frowns upon it, due to the 'losses' that they feel they have been cheated from. Though this is a bit different cala isnt the 'house' it's just the main force that is taking over the 'dreamweaver world' on PWI, so I can definitely see why SOME people would consider this as unfair. xD
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  • Olee - Dreamweaver
    Olee - Dreamweaver Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    first - I didnt say Im not defending EQ , as I said I think all factions here have bad things and good things, if I left, I had my owns reasons, not like u should care, but damm u got somehow an ego with cala and see like all is perfect, I renember 2 months ago, u told me some names of ppl from EQ who was going to join Calamity, Im still waiting ( Im not going to say name as u do, cuz thats a thing that no1 cares)

    Thought Im not worth any1 time ? Andres watch this... ya think ppl read all the **** u wrote ? 500 lines and u didnt say anything important else than lie and lie, as I said u got a big ego even tho u didnt make anything important or so, dunno what ya got in ur head, but seriously ure nothing but yeah, a big mouth, and oh well what makes ya think you're better that me ? man I think u got a lot of free time and so u write and write there, be able to write a lot and so be able to speak english better than me, doesnt make u be smart, or that doesnt make me be stupid as well Andres


    At all is funny how all cala only can say 1 thing about me, '' Olee ur english sucks'' as if it pisses me lmao.
  • Lightaine - Dreamweaver
    Lightaine - Dreamweaver Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Olee your unfound accusations are slanderous, and I'm sure eatwithspoons would agree with me when I say that you go too far. Did you think I enjoyed waking up early to prepare for an afternoon war? If we're really asking guilds to bid, dictating how the TW map looks, why did so many bid?

    That's right, it's because they chose to bid, and yes, TW times are random.

    The truth is, EQ and Armagedon are held together by one thing. Beating Calamity. I personally cannot wait for the day when you two get a war on the same day. Maybe if you lose then, you'll see how silly these little games are.

    You need someone to blame your inadequacies on, so you pick the obvious target: Calamity.

    While we're on the subject of Calamity being the bad guys, let's take a look at something.

    Factions Calamity has attacked:
    EQ
    Immortal
    Armagedon

    Factions EQ and Armagedon has wiped off the map:
    TheTitans
    Dominion
    Midnight
    Crusaders
    Momentum
    DamageInc
    Bliss
    Elysium
    Dynasty
    BloodPact
    More that I can't even remember.

    You only started attacking Calamity when you had no other options. Way to take the easy way out. So for any of those saying EQ would share the map if Calamity didn't exist, they've already proved that that is wrong.

    You conduct yourselves in such a barbaric manner in World Chat, it's no wonder you guys suffer from membership problems. Maybe if you behaved decently, you'd get a few more recruits with half a shred of respect for themselves and the faction they wish to call family.

    When Calamity conducts a boss hour, your true nature comes out. You start KS'ing teams working on killing the boss, slinging hateful nonsense across world chat. I daresay if you were as organized in TW as you are at acting like jackasses every few Sundays, you'd stand a much better chance at securing a land or two.

    Grow up and get a grip.
    hai2u