Regarding Oracle Noobs n high lvls

Trenith - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I had a barb last night in TT, try to tell me every single thing I had to do. Sure its a TT2-3 the barbs 9x Im 7x. But I know my class, why do yall feel that since yall are higher yall think yall know it all. People telling me FACs phail. Well crazy enough I got to 2-3 with a group, have 86 cleric with 5K+ hp. She cant handle the healing on the bosses, yet I can.... by myself? Then they tell me because Im a FAC I fail....

Agree there ive had high lvl non clerics telling me what do do step by step too, even though im DOING what they say as they take time to say it? wow.

What cant a FAC cleric heal, afterall mag is still the primary stat, FAC or not mag affects heal.. I dunno your build, but 6k mana *suggests* a decent mag stat. and solo healing where a 8x failed, kudos too you.

respectfully Yuufa

Xeian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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on another note. I didn't use ANY charms to get there either. (which as more than I can say about you)

Unlike you he has no minitank, nor infinte mana from soul infuse to keep him going and going and going.
And whos to say he used charms at lvl 55? thats a lvl 75 pic there, and as your lvl 55 you do not know the life saving benifit from a HP charm when dealing with bosses that almost one hit you with an aoe attack,,, think you have a lot of time to drop the IHB spam in the tank to throw any healing on yourself? not much.

I really don't think that the grinding part is the difficult and interesting bit to learn.

Admittedly, it's a nice relatively safe way to stretch your boundaries - where trying the same with a boss is much more likely to send you back to reclaim.

Anyway, I'm slowly poking my way up through the levels the proper way myself.

Sadly its not just oracle noobs, but oracle noobs geared out in lunar gear.
The game is basically a competition to see who can spend the most money on it. There really isnt any point to playing the game anymore.

RIP pwi.

yea, and how many venos you see with herc, I don't have one

Oracle noobs are bad, Like the time i went on a 39 with a freaking lvl 50 archer who
A had no idea Farren AOEd
B that when a Venos pet dissappears IT IS NOT DEAD, (also he decided that since the pet died he JUST had to attack farren and get us all killed)

C Ninja friend requested everyone at the start of the the run ( thats not noob only its just annoying)

D Did i mention he pulled farren yeah well he also pulls the mob on the hill after we got rezed and i mean RIGHT after , and gets the cleric killed again.

Needless to say that run ended there, so yes I have a special place in my heart for ppl that dont want to learn the game but just want a shiny avi with a high lvl they can show off to make themselves seem cool. Beware them, they get you killed often..

OP made me laugh. b:laugh

XylolyX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I think there's room for everyone to learn in this game. Luckily, I have a set 5 or 10 ppl that I quest/TT with...everytime we've gone on random invites it's been a disaster/partywipe. Wouldn't make that much of a difference if I wasn't the one trying to keep everyone else alive...

yea, I hate that, same problems with farren people do their own thing, get us all killed... I lasted in a TT1-2 run (only died three times, demontora...) with people I know and trust. (note, I'm talking about this 55, not something higher)

Foxx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sadly its not just oracle noobs, but oracle noobs geared out in lunar gear.
The game is basically a competition to see who can spend the most money on it. There really isnt any point to playing the game anymore.

RIP pwi.

this.

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I don't even think its just oracle noobs and that. I know I'm from the group that seems to love the things, but I'd rather have to work for my levels. More importantly, I like to know what the hell I'm doing when I go to do quests.

Case in point: Ran a TT 1-2 last night, since the squad was just going for drops. We had just ran a 1-1, so the squad just stayed together for the 2nd run. We managed fine for the most part, at least until Dimentora (last boss, for those who don't know). Our barb decides to rush, and calls for BB. Never mind the fact that he doesn't wait for the skill to cast or anything. I try to recover aggro by sending my pet in, pulling it off of him to make it so we have a chance. Nope. Barb dies, pet dies, I die, and both clerics die. Only the archer and BM make it out alive, somehow. Then the barb says he's tired, but still wants his drops from one of the bosses. He logs, and we're left in the lurch.

This was a lvl 7x barb, who apparently didn't know anything about pulling, skill channel times, or TT in general. Multiple times I had to stop my pet from taking his aggro with bash, and I only have a lvl 55 pet. Something is wrong here....>.< I have used oracles, but more for the spirit than the exp. Eh, maybe I'm just oldschool. The last mmo I played allowed for players to delevel when they lost exp at 0%.

Ophelius - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Here's a question: Say one were new to TT at high levels, and haven't tried it out even once, would you give him a chance to learn, or would you begrudge him because he was inexperienced?

If they said they had never done TT before, I'd take them with me and help them learn. Everyone started out new to it at one point. It's unfair not to help other players new to it now.

Ophelius - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Here's a question: Say one were new to TT at high levels, and haven't tried it out even once, would you give him a chance to learn, or would you begrudge him because he was inexperienced?

I personally would help him to learn. Why not?

As long as people are friendly and actually learn and dont run in kamikaze first its all cool and wouldnt take me from learning them :P

EDIT: I learned TTand FC with friends too who took me in, even when I had never done that before :P

there's a huge difference between being new at an instance and not knowing how to play your class.

like you can not know how the instance works, but someone can explain to you where to go, what to watch out for etc. yet someone shouldn't have to explain how you should manage aggro, or when you should cast sharptooth arrow (if you do at all). grr zoe beated me to it b:chuckle

Xeian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yea, I hate that, same problems with farren people do their own thing, get us all killed... I lasted in a TT1-2 run (only died three times, demontora...) with people I know and trust. (note, I'm talking about this 55, not something higher)

Most of the peeps I party with (especially my favorite Cleric) I have been questing with since my 4X levels. There's nothing better than knowing what your partner is gonna do before he/she does it.

malixdark wrote: »

I've come to learn in this game everything is about cash. No one pays anyone any attention unless they benefit them in some way.

As an 83bm I could grind and learn my way to any level, master every skill, refine and shard my gear to the max, and I will always be second choice to the oracle nub version of the 3 main "wanteds" (barb/veno/cleric)

Not entirely true as a bm. You become important at 9X. Make sure u kno how to time ur stun. Learn ur skills.
And a lvl is meaningless if you dont kno how to play ur class. There'z a ton of lvl 100+ ppl on lost city i have no respect for; and its not in regards to how they got there lvl.Its based off how much they suck as a player. I agree in terms of the gear being able to be bought straight from cs is horrible thou...There's no overlooking that....