Demon vs. Sage Wiz

prof wrote: »

anyone downing dark wellspring has obviously never used it.

I think the problem is a lot of players think demon and sage wizards pvp same, you cant use ultis as often as a Sage wiz can if you went Demon, that -20% channeling is suppose to stack with gear and you use it with those skills that got channeling reduction that require no chi to use but do very high dmg for ex demon divine pyro and demon glacial snare and w/e skills to lower targets hp after the charm ticks, it wont do as much dmg as ultis do but it gets the job done really fast.

You got the option of dishing out high dmg per second with the increased channeling reduction or just use sutra if you have enough chi, demon is way less dependant on chi compare to sage so dont try using a demon wiz to pvp like a sage.

Ok as for people saying you dont get the chance to use the full 15 seconds because of stuns and interupts, you all already know demon has improved freeze and stun spells, if you manage to ds from a target while while activating wellspring and casting pitfall/hailstorm ( yea i know it's 33%/50% chance to freeze but considering pitfalls 1sec cast and channeling + the dmg it does although its not much, i still think this spell is kinda good) you basically got a extra 3/4 seconds of target not being able to move so you get the chance to more spells at it before he gets close enough to do dmg.

Anyway sorry for the long text, just giving my opinion on demon and sage.

Once again this topic rears its head. I still think it come down to player style and what you value more. It not an easy decision and anyone about to go demon or sage should look at every skill in its entirity. Furthermore consider this.

"How likely am I to get the neccessary book for this skill".

Personally I went Sage, I could have gone Demon but went Sage. Ca't say I regret it. My good mate, and fellow LA wziard TW partner, Weedjedi is Demon wizard.

He got some skills which seem great I got some which seem great.

Some of my Favorite sage skills apart from the basic 3 include

D Pyro - -20% fire res
Black Ice Dragon - Crits
Stone Barrier - 120% P Def bonus
Force of Will - Changes the stun from singular to a ranged 3 meter AOE
Emberstorm - reduce in damage by 25% to 35% overall for the original 60% HP - Warning the description for this skill is way off. Btw no more charm ticks.

What I would say is read the label carefully, as we have notice (the other wizzies here in the faction) is that the description for both demon and sage seem to be either wrong or misleading.

Either way have fun as a wizzie.

Ps - I use well spring once every 30 mins as a buff alone
Sage - 100% attack err i`ll spark ty
Demon - Channeling err Essential sutra

Frankly if you ahve to buy the book then learn the thing, personally i'd keep my money ty.

Demon is better for a nuker. Period.

CrazyLazy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Does it matter what path you choose? i mean its your choice no right or wrong answer. Just remember demon more offensive sage defensive. Just pick based on that. I went sage because mainly i like to triple spark chi pot sutra and not get hit as hard kinda useful. Base that if you go demon you don't need to sutra after and save a chi pot but r still gonna get hit hard once they see your nice big red flash.
Have fun go wild no matter which path your gonna rock b:pleased

sage/demon isn't offensive/defensive. It's chi or no chi.

a holy mage finally got it? that dark doesn't need vigor to kill?

this forum is finally making progress.

I almost never use sutra, my dooms, or really.. anything vigor required. the only thing I find myself using the most is:

distance shrink for obvious reasons, and I get back all the vigor used in 1 or 2 hits;
mountain press for the stun(usually after an ea furies, or in large build ups in tw);
stone barrier when I get debuffed(everytime I have more than self buffs, there's a pretty little purple light attracted to me =/);
soulingest powder for obvious reasons;
finally, dark.moistcuring when I get it.

I always sit around with full vigor because I have no use for it. I don't need it.

*grins* Demon Vs. Sage Wiz, when it comes down 2 it I pick Sage mainly cuz 1. they produce higher numbers
2. They get chi way quicker and even if u have chi pots, that skills is still beastly.
3. Fire/Water debuffs from skills- this gives you a good upper hand when ur Eartheido strike is cooldown.
4. Critting manchines past lvl 99, Holy BID is the best skill ever...period
5. Small Aoe Silence- Very useful even though it doesnt seem like it.

Now yes, Demon have higher Phy defense and thats beast. Sure they have some skills that increase chant time and thats beast. Sure they can control a person better and good 1v1 but lets be serious, as a wiz ur not going out alone till ur around 90+, 99+ and even then you are a wiz because you do Damage, not because you can control your opponet, I would rather kill the oppoent and have some cuts/scratches then having "better surviablity" but hey that might just be me, alot of people go dark anyway *dont kno why* but Heaven is the way 2 go.