Disbanding factions with foreign names?

Tahtank - Heavens Tear
Tahtank - Heavens Tear Posts: 26 Arc User
edited October 2009 in General Discussion
Hi everyone,

I'm the leader of 'Fate火', a friendly little level 1 faction.

Today I was told by a GM that I needed to disband my faction simply because of the chinese character in my faction name, what I'd like to know is why?

(Yes, it was a real GM that was capable of using the "GM" chat and she or he had the red GM symbol next to their name)

The chinese character means "fire", it's nothing offensive, I've seen many other factions with foreign characters (usually japanese or chinese), there are even factions names that are offensive in plain english, yet it is mine that has to be disbanded?

What if it was a level 2 or level 3 faction?
According to the Guild/Faction guide on the website, these factions cannot be disbanded.

What about the money we used to create/upgrade our factions?
Will we be refunded?

There was no rule indicating that we cannot use foreign characters in the faction name and I find all this very appalling.

Are there others who have experienced the same here?
Can anyone confirm whether I really have to disband?
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  • Eternalnub - Heavens Tear
    Eternalnub - Heavens Tear Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    cause this is US aka bush based version so those names arent allowed..its stupid that game supports those weird letters but gm's dun like em :)
  • foodlion
    foodlion Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    its like the online BMP
    (english ppl would get that)


    this is stupid lol!
    ask for a gold refund.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    they made a big over-glorified stink about it on sanc too. world chat was spammed all day....

    from what i hear, the faction called out the GMs to show themselves by the faction master npc, but when the GMs didn't show, they kept the faction (and afaik, the faction is still around)

    i know there's several factions with foriegn letterings in their name on our server, and some of them are upgraded

    somehow i doubt this will be enforced, because it'll cause more trouble than it's worth
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  • chesticles
    chesticles Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    See here:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=4591782#post4591782
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/guide/names

    # - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    # - Foreign characters of any kind.
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  • chesticles
    chesticles Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/guide/names

    # - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    # - Foreign characters of any kind.

    And i would like to add:

    Players that do not follow these rules will be banned at the discretion of a GM.
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Foreign characters=characters not from Earth
    Because this is the INTERNATIONAL version.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/guide/names

    # - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    # - Foreign characters of any kind.
    chesticles wrote: »
    And i would like to add:

    Players that do not follow these rules will be banned at the discretion of a GM.

    that page is for player names
    ilystah wrote: »
    Foreign characters=characters not from Earth
    Because this is the INTERNATIONAL version.

    +1
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  • chesticles
    chesticles Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Player names/faction names etc

    Those naming rules apply to anything you can name in the game.
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    that page is for player names

    Then we are allowed to use the following:
    * - Impersonate PW Staff, moderators or anyone affiliated with PW Entertainment.
    * - Profanity or obscene words.
    * - Direct Harassment (For example, naming yourself BobSucks.)
    * - Promote other games or advertise products.
    * - Racial/ethnic remarks.
    * - Sexual references such as diseases and body parts.
    * - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    * - Foreign characters of any kind.
    * - Personal information.
    as our faction name / pet names / whatever that isn't related to our character name?

    But nevertheless, either way, the GM's usually ignore these rules for the hassle it causes. I mean GodHatesYOU is still part of Sanctuary...
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  • _icup - Harshlands
    _icup - Harshlands Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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  • JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver
    JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I dont think symbols should be allowed in names as its hard to submit a report about suspected hacking/scamming if you dont know how to do the symbols.

    (im not saying names with symbols are cheating, just that it could be hard to submit a report if you suspect they are)
    It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
  • Dustinmurphy - Harshlands
    Dustinmurphy - Harshlands Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    I guess i should decompose my weapon then
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  • Zyikno - Harshlands
    Zyikno - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    * - Impersonate PW Staff, moderators or anyone affiliated with PW Entertainment.
    --Haven't seen this for player/Faction name(on HL at least)
    * - Profanity or obscene words.
    --Seen this for players and pets lol
    * - Direct Harassment (For example, naming yourself BobSucks.)
    --Also seen this
    * - Promote other games or advertise products.
    --Not sure if I've seen one of these
    * - Racial/ethnic remarks.
    --I'm sure there are some made, somewear
    * - Sexual references such as diseases and body parts.
    --Lol i've seen lotsa these
    * - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    --Many player names as Gibberish, factions? as far as I've seen no but I'm sure there is
    * - Foreign characters of any kind.
    --Lotsa these
    * - Personal information.
    --Idk

    Even with regular names its not being followed through x_o Where is the enforcement of that lol~

    Too much trouble? b:chuckle
  • Aquilonian - Dreamweaver
    Aquilonian - Dreamweaver Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dustinmurphy - Harshlands wrote: »
    I guess i should decompose my weapon then

    Sorry but now you have to NPC it b:bye
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Eternalnub - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    cause this is US aka bush based version so those names arent allowed..its stupid that game supports those weird letters but gm's dun like em :)

    Yes, those former US presidents using their political clout to ruin online games.

    2:1 odds for troll over idiot.
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then we are allowed to use the following:

    * - Direct Harassment (For example, naming yourself BobSucks.)

    I don't see how this can be enforced...how do they know who you are talking about...if your name is Bob, then you could be saying you suck...is that harassment? b:shutup
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  • Absoluth - Heavens Tear
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Simply ask for the creation refund then and make a new guild. Theres no point in complaining about a simple rule. You were wrong to use the symbol, knowingly or not.
    I guess i should decompose my weapon then
    The player doesnt have a foreign sign on his actual nick. This is a game flaw. Anybody with a 'long name' will have some weird sign on the items they make. Check AH and you'll see alot of those.
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  • Forath - Lost City
    Forath - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Foreign characters=characters not from Earth
    Because this is the INTERNATIONAL version.

    Foreign = not from the country that the game is located in = US (International stems from it being a foreign game making a move across nations to be brought to US)

    "characters not from Earth" = ALIEN characters

    i dont think PWI even supports alien chars.
  • ShAdeReAP - Sanctuary
    ShAdeReAP - Sanctuary Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    just a question then...how would i get a refund to make a new faction then if my faction has one of those symbols...
    would a GM be able to answer me on that? :p

    and its not sarcasm either lol
    and if something isnt allowed...how come we are able to do those symbols then?
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Forath - Lost City wrote: »
    Foreign = not from the country that the game is located in = US (International stems from it being a foreign game making a move across nations to be brought to US)

    "characters not from Earth" = ALIEN characters

    i dont think PWI even supports alien chars.

    ...What's defined as an "alien char"? Do those exist? b:shocked
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    ...What's defined as an "alien char"? Do those exist? b:shocked

    Transformers speak alien language b:quiet.
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    They are among us b:quiet.
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  • Asmathi - Sanctuary
    Asmathi - Sanctuary Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then we are allowed to use the following:
    * - Impersonate PW Staff, moderators or anyone affiliated with PW Entertainment.
    * - Profanity or obscene words.
    * - Direct Harassment (For example, naming yourself BobSucks.)
    * - Promote other games or advertise products.
    * - Racial/ethnic remarks.
    * - Sexual references such as diseases and body parts.
    * - Gibbersh (For example, names containing random letters and numbers such as ffjvubjr or 3vj32j23.)
    * - Foreign characters of any kind.
    * - Personal information.
    as our faction name / pet names / whatever that isn't related to our character name?

    But nevertheless, either way, the GM's usually ignore these rules for the hassle it causes. I mean GodHatesYOU is still part of Sanctuary...

    If you want to be technical,

    Obscene = Repulsive; disgusting (A Player can consider anything repulsive or disgusting, that is a pure opinion)

    Harrassment = To irritate or torment persistently (So Direct harrassment means that it irritates me directly. I am irritated everytime I see the Word Nefarious, so is that not allowed?)

    In other words, most of these are opinions, such as foreign is based off of what country one lives in. (So, if you live in China, Chinese is not a foreign language, and technically english is)

    @Forath: International = Extending across or transcending national boundaries (Thus international means that all countries should be able to type what they want in chat. If it was because it wasn't in the Original Country of Origin, it wouldn't be International, but Immigrational, which is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region to which one is not native")
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Asmathi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    -hate to snip such good debate material, but just too much text for the quote-

    i give your logical debate response a +2. grats
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    btw, i had to perform a full platform reset on my comp, so everything i had on it is gone... plus i got alot of RL **** to deal with currently, so it may be a while before i can send you the materials for making my siggy b:surrender
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  • Asmathi - Sanctuary
    Asmathi - Sanctuary Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i give your logical debate response a +2. grats



    btw, i had to perform a full platform reset on my comp, so everything i had on it is gone... plus i got alot of RL **** to deal with currently, so it may be a while before i can send you the materials for making my siggy b:surrender

    not a prob, just PM the stuff whenever you want the siggy lol
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  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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