Territory Reset?

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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I never gave that much though to TWs that time as I said I was too focused on improving my char/reading guides/getting "infame" in the pk world b:victory , but I always wanted to attack nef . I never backed up on a fight,but a few ppl couldn't change the decision of 95% of the faction.
    I was actually quite pissed when 2 colors were left on the map yet we didn't fight right away.

    It wasn't a faction-wide poll, it was just the officers of the guild called into a meeting about 10-30 mins before bidding end being told btw, theDan just mentioned a deal that was going on with previous leader that no one mentioned, do we act on it. Out of all the officers, official and non-official voted, only 2 were for it out of all of them. Even after Khim and I pointed out that waiting would only let Nef build up, and they had just been weakened by some leavers, the others still somehow believed non-recruiting would make us more capable of taking on their active recruiting. Especially as I pointed out, Regicide losing their last land leaves them without territory, which means they would have no reason to care who they attacked. Made more sense to me to involve their self-interest firmly towards attacking Nef.

    As for theDan and xAsch, I have no idea why they didn't bring it up to Milari before. I mean think about it, the agreement was previously with Des. Des left Legendary and went to Nefarious. If anyone actually believed Des would let the new leader know of a joint attack on his new faction is smoking some really bad weed. Which also explains the major ramping up of Nef's recruitment efforts. Des really didn't do anything wrong, since he just avoided **** his new guild over in favor of the old guild. Which does place the blame pretty firmly on the remaining two who knew of it and said nothing; theDan and xAsch
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It wasn't a faction-wide poll, it was just the officers of the guild called into a meeting about 10-30 mins before bidding end being told btw, theDan just mentioned a deal that was going on with previous leader that no one mentioned, do we act on it. Out of all the officers, official and non-official voted, only 2 were for it out of all of them. Even after Khim and I pointed out that waiting would only let Nef build up, and they had just been weakened by some leavers, the others still somehow believed non-recruiting would make us more capable of taking on their active recruiting. Especially as I pointed out, Regicide losing their last land leaves them without territory, which means they would have no reason to care who they attacked. Made more sense to me to involve their self-interest firmly towards attacking Nef.

    As for theDan and xAsch, I have no idea why they didn't bring it up to Milari before. I mean think about it, the agreement was previously with Des. Des left Legendary and went to Nefarious. If anyone actually believed Des would let the new leader know of a joint attack on his new faction is smoking some really bad weed. Which also explains the major ramping up of Nef's recruitment efforts. Des really didn't do anything wrong, since he just avoided **** his new guild over in favor of the old guild. Which does place the blame pretty firmly on the remaining two who knew of it and said nothing; theDan and xAsch

    We brought it up to Milari a full 3 days before bidding. (On a Monday, between Rebirth, Steel, Regicide, Legendary). She agreed twice she would be attacking Nefarious. She backed out twice. First wiping Outlaw off the map, then attacking Archosaur. The only change was that Steel broke apart due to drama and dropped out of the coalition. For those 2 weeks "Rebirth" and Regicide had no TWs. Here's the thread I made ages ago to validate my claim. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=258452&highlight=progressing
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  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    - You're mistaken here. There's a difference from not being able to seeing the future, and being able to do things about it. Did I not rally other factions(Rebirth, Steel, Legendary, Outlaw) for a joint attack on Nefarious in early March before things were irreversible? 3 times in fact. At this point in time there is not much we can work with, many of those factions don't exist anymore.()the old ones are not there but new guilds have come up just take a look around
    - What drama? Reg has never had drama over TW. People applied to Nef/Leg whilst still being in the guild when we had no problems. None were brought up to the Officers, so of course we had nothing to be addressed.Drama is not always related to TW, certain inside faction stuff can also cause drama
    - How do people voice their decision above mine when the Officers and I have the final say in things?Think of the recent past would you still say you got your and your officers voice on everything?
    - The most recent time we did defend a land it was a Sunday 2PM PST TW and we had 50 people online.So you mean to say if u had 80 ppl online you would be able to defend Nefarious on that particular TW?
    - It's not that we haven't learned, we have defended our lands before. Back when Outlaw + Legendary both attacked us in the same Time slot we held our ground for 3 hours. History goes a long way, the mechanics have TW have shifted. It's the fact that other factions including are

    TW wise you are enough knowledgeable your self i have no doubts about it, but yeah still Regicide has to learn a lot in recent times. Of what i hear you did loose valuable resources in the past 1 month


    BRB afk 15 mins keep the discussion on after a long time its no QQ but harmless discussion
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    - You're mistaken here. There's a difference from not being able to seeing the future, and being able to do things about it. Did I not rally other factions(Rebirth, Steel, Legendary, Outlaw) for a joint attack on Nefarious in early March before things were irreversible? 3 times in fact. At this point in time there is not much we can work with, many of those factions don't exist anymore.
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    the old ones are not there but new guilds have come up just take a look around
    I can only name Dreaming, LIONSOUL, RedRaiders, Enelysion. None of which were as much of a threat as the TW powerhouses I mentioned before. If we weren't able to bring down Nef with the powerhouses of Sanctuary, then I'm not sure why the new guilds can.
    - What drama? Reg has never had drama over TW. People applied to Nef/Leg whilst still being in the guild when we had no problems. No problems in TW were ever brought up to the Officers, so of course we had nothing to be addressed.
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    certain inside faction stuff can also cause drama
    Like I said, no problems at all were noticeable and none were brought up. And if there was, it didn't involve anyone else, so even if there was something personal between 1 member, what does that have to do with 20-30 applying to Nef/Leg the same week?
    - How do people voice their decision above mine when the Officers and I have the final say in things?
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    Think of the recent past would you still say you got your and your officers voice on everything?
    If everything we address at Officer meetings on Wednesdays count, then yes. But we still do take into account the suggestions of members too. It is our call.
    - The most recent time we did defend a land it was a Sunday 2PM PST TW and we had 50 people online.
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    so you mean to say if u had 80 ppl online you would be able to defend Nefarious on that particular TW?
    I cannot say for sure, but what does that particular TW have to do with the entire future of TW? A 1v1 Attack, is the same as a 1v1 Defense. The conditions don't change, but defending you have something to lose, whereas attacking you don't. In many of our TWs, we've had to defend while we were attacking. It's common between guilds that are equally as aggressive.
    - It's not that we haven't learned, we have defended our lands before. Back when Outlaw + Legendary both attacked us in the same Time slot we held our ground for 3 hours. History goes a long way, the mechanics have TW have shifted. It's the fact that other factions including are unable to compete with factions that get 400M a week compared to our 0.
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    TW wise you are enough knowledgeable your self i have no doubts about it, but yeah still Regicide has to learn a lot in recent times. Of what i hear you did loose valuable resources in the past 1 month

    I'm sure everyone has lost valuable resources to some degree due to recent events. But Regicide has been largely unaffected. And we have no problems with learning :P
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  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dan last post of urs didnt make much sense to me could you please explain a bit more ??
  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    So Dan my rejection was the officers choice and not the choice of ur faction ?? just asking cause i saw this thread suddenly ?? was that your voice and your officers voice ??
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    I want to go back to the time when innocence was Natural, getting high meant, on a swing. Drinking meant lemonade. Dad was the only Hero. Love was Mom's hug. Dad's shoulder was the highest place on earth. Worst enemies were siblings.
    Hurts were Bleeding knees. Broken things were only Toys. Goodbyes meant only till tomorrow!

    Life has changed a lot ....

    Hasn't it .. ?? ..b:sad
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    So Dan my rejection was the officers choice and not the choice of ur faction ?? just asking cause i saw this thread suddenly ?? was that your voice and your officers voice ??

    We re-voted and it was close.
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  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol i spoke with a couple of those who voted no and didnt even know me or was like in freshly in the guild and guess what most of them said ??


    "we did so cause 2 people had said they would leave if u are back(you know who they are)"
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    I want to go back to the time when innocence was Natural, getting high meant, on a swing. Drinking meant lemonade. Dad was the only Hero. Love was Mom's hug. Dad's shoulder was the highest place on earth. Worst enemies were siblings.
    Hurts were Bleeding knees. Broken things were only Toys. Goodbyes meant only till tomorrow!

    Life has changed a lot ....

    Hasn't it .. ?? ..b:sad
  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    thats all the voice you have in your faction ?? and if thats wat that herne said is true you think your going the right way with the choice of ur members ??

    anyways hi herne been a while i met you around wats up where are you and i see ur 97 b:shocked woah nice work dude ...
  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    hi but do i know you ??
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    I want to go back to the time when innocence was Natural, getting high meant, on a swing. Drinking meant lemonade. Dad was the only Hero. Love was Mom's hug. Dad's shoulder was the highest place on earth. Worst enemies were siblings.
    Hurts were Bleeding knees. Broken things were only Toys. Goodbyes meant only till tomorrow!

    Life has changed a lot ....

    Hasn't it .. ?? ..b:sad
  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    first of all didnt expect that from ayano werent u the one who killed a lvl 90 Barb fully geared in a duel on the day of your leave from pwi, and if am not wrong u just had regular normal gear from the npc no shard no refines no weapon ?? wanna see how many lvl 99 witout any PROPER gear and PROPER weapon can do that. i was stunned to see that really hats off to you mate

    That was a duel,in actual PK or TW the charm come's in .So like I said if gear advantage get's too high you won't be able to break their charm even if they stand there and do nothing,charms limit pvp skill allot in this game.
    Ayano name me one wiz you did really put above your self, count anyone from the past 6 months there were higher lvls than you.

    WarZed would be an equal from the past 6 months. But he used to be better than me at everything + loving his own class which motivated me enough to get even better at it despite it being so **** early game.

    He didn't troll forums like me or try to get that known through pk so lots of ppl might not know him ,he quit long ago. I think I surpasses him in pvp skill eventually(not by much) but he was better at making money than me :P .
  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    well fine ur a noob happy ??
  • verse
    verse Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    BRB afk 15 mins keep the discussion on after a long time its no QQ but harmless discussion
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    well fine ur a noob happy ??

    lol no QQ, but QQ? b:sad
  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    beh i love ayano i can call him what i want if only he knew who i was ><
  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    where did Dan go now didnt even say he gonna afk bad manners and where is Ayano ??
  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    tatu3110 wrote: »
    beh i love ayano i can call him what i want if only he knew who i was ><

    Tell me in pm ? :P .
  • tatu3110
    tatu3110 Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    well boring now and i need to boose cya all laterz and be waiting for Dan to come back
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anyone notice that every topic Ayano posts in she turns into a discussion about PK? Some people forget that its a PVE server.
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  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    o.O lookie who decided to show up . Hi to you too Ast :P .
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anyone notice that every topic Ayano posts in she turns into a discussion about PK? Some people forget that its a PVE server.
    come pk my mom ayano :D so i may play in peace....
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  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anyone notice that every topic Ayano posts in he turns into a discussion about PK? Some people forget that its a PVE server.

    PVE server? What's that?

    Carebears are boring Ast :P . But then again so is pk in SafeZoneary and right now probably TWs too ...but hey,it was very fun in the past !
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    every topic Ayano posts in eventually also turns to lollipops, Ast's lack of such lollipops, and Ayano asserting that she's a guy b:chuckle
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    every topic Ayano posts in eventually also turns to lollipops, Ast's lack of such lollipops, and Ayano asserting that she's a guy b:chuckle
    Only vent shall tell ze truthz :3 (excluding 15yr old boys that still sound like girls sometimes) outsiders like us can only guess.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    kukuku but there exists women with deep voices too (mostly the tall and heavyset ones); i mean you'd know they were women if you talk to them in person but on vent it can easily be distorted to make you think otherwise.

    just curious Ayano, did you base your name on one of those anime characters or one of those Japanese model/**** stars? google turned up interesting results b:chuckle
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    kukuku but there exists women with deep voices too (mostly the tall and heavyset ones); i mean you'd know they were women if you talk to them in person but on vent it can easily be distorted to make you think otherwise.

    just curious Ayano, did you base your name on one of those anime characters or one of those Japanese model/**** stars? google turned up interesting results b:chuckle
    you know what boys his age think of b:cute no question needed
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  • Ayano-chan - Sanctuary
    Ayano-chan - Sanctuary Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    kukuku but there exists women with deep voices too (mostly the tall and heavyset ones); i mean you'd know they were women if you talk to them in person but on vent it can easily be distorted to make you think otherwise.

    just curious Ayano, did you base your name on one of those anime characters or one of those Japanese model/**** stars? google turned up interesting results b:chuckle

    Oh , the name : it was just from an anime my gf liked and choose for the character since we originally started PWI playing the same character till like lvl 55, then she quit and I totally took over.Even the 1st few character designs were made by her to look like that anime character with me mostly insisting on the big boobies part since that character was kinda flat chested which I did enlarge when I was left to play the character alone b:sin .

    Real guys playing chick characters always prefer big lollipops .

    Oh and btw :

    Objective 1 : Anyone notice that every topic Ayano posts in he turns into a discussion about PK? Some people forget that its a PVE server. - Achieved

    Objective 2 : every topic Ayano posts in eventually also turns to lollipops - Achieved
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lols interesting story and yay for big lollipops! i can only imagine Ayano and GF sharing the same char...b:chuckle

    "Aya hun why is it that i'm red named upon logging in?"
    "um...b:avoid"
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    As for theDan and xAsch, I have no idea why they didn't bring it up to Milari before. I mean think about it, the agreement was previously with Des. Des left Legendary and went to Nefarious. If anyone actually believed Des would let the new leader know of a joint attack on his new faction is smoking some really bad weed. Which also explains the major ramping up of Nef's recruitment efforts. Des really didn't do anything wrong, since he just avoided **** his new guild over in favor of the old guild. Which does place the blame pretty firmly on the remaining two who knew of it and said nothing; theDan and xAsch

    Actually, it was brang up prior to when Dan mentioned. DarkRings and I tried to get Legendary to attack Nefarious with us. That was when Rebirth still had land. After which Milari said "Wait till next week", so Heleina and I agreed a Steel vs Rebirth showdown, for fun. Didn't matter who won, as Legendary was planning an assault the following week.

    The following week, was when we got Dan involved. He's pretty much explained everything else. I just wanted to point out that Steel and Rebirth wanted to assault Nefarious when there were still a couple colors around. Legendary just delayed.. then backed out.. then backed out again.. t'was quite sad.

    @Dan: I respected Regicide as well - just didn't like Lelilya and Hatedsoul. Lelilya failed KSing me at the pirates when (s)he was 83 and I was 77. Hooray for Cleric AoEs? xD
  • Linnkotsu - Sanctuary
    Linnkotsu - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    There comes a point where those discussing the main topic of this thread must realize you are beating on a horse that died long long long ago.
  • Lycanthar - Sanctuary
    Lycanthar - Sanctuary Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    There comes a point where those discussing the main topic of this thread must realize you are beating on a horse that died long long long ago.

    Like you? Oh Linnk, I jest <3 miss you bud.

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