PKing in Secret Passage

buttafly
buttafly Posts: 1 Arc User
edited September 2009 in General Discussion
A lot of people get upset when the get pked in secret passage. I was wondering if there is any rules against pking in SP since Lost city is PVP server.
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  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    In PvP server, there are no rules anywhere. That is why it is a PvP server...
  • Allyson - Harshlands
    Allyson - Harshlands Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    In PvP server, there are no rules anywhere. That is why it is a PvP server...
    what he said.
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  • Saveless - Sanctuary
    Saveless - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    In PvP server, there are no rules anywhere. That is why it is a PvP server...

    False. Pretty much if you kill someone in SP on Harshlands, you're automatically qualified as "griefing" them and are immediately banned.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    False. Pretty much if you kill someone in SP on Harshlands, you're automatically qualified as "griefing" them and are immediately banned.

    They are only allowed to kill other players that want to fight.........

    Wait, never mind, I was thinking of a PVE server.... Nowadays with all the complaining coming out of PVP servers, it is so easy to get the two of them confused.....

    Maybe PWE should just turn all the PVP servers into PVE servers so we do not have to read all the posts about unfair pvp or noob camping....
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  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Yes there are rules about pking in areas that impede lower levels to complete their quests. If somebody pks in SP just take a ScreenShot of it and send it to pwi.
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    you rolled a pvp character, suck it up and deal with it b:scorn
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    you rolled a pvp character, suck it up and deal with it b:scorn

    Don't say that, deep inside they all want to be like us on PVE servers :) They are just not PVE-tough enough to admit it.
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  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    So wait... Now it'S a bannable offense to kill a lower player when he is doing a quest? What kind of **** PvP rule is that?

    Can we get a confirmation of a GM on this one?

    Or is this just a made up rule by a handful of players?

    Now don't get me wrong, killing a lower level while he is questing is definatly evil, but last time I checked, this is part of the PvP fun isn't it?

    PS: I'm also just talking about 1 guy killing another guy once. I'm not talking about harrassing another player and killing him 20 times in a row...
  • Allyson - Harshlands
    Allyson - Harshlands Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    So wait... Now it'S a bannable offense to kill a lower player when he is doing a quest? What kind of **** PvP rule is that?

    Can we get a confirmation of a GM on this one?

    Or is this just a made up rule by a handful of players?

    Now don't get me wrong, killing a lower level while he is questing is definatly evil, but last time I checked, this is part of the PvP fun isn't it?

    PS: I'm also just talking about 1 guy killing another guy once. I'm not talking about harrassing another player and killing him 20 times in a row...
    It's bannable if you constatly kill them over and over stoping them for questing/leveling. And yes it has happened in harshland one to many times.
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  • ZenGirl - Lost City
    ZenGirl - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    you rolled a pvp character, suck it up and deal with it b:scorn[/QUOTE


    when did asking a simple question get you a comment like this. Maybe I just wanted to know the rules so that I can PK. If you can't be helpful, please sit down and be quiet. Oh my bad, Little kids have a hard time doing that.


    To everyone else, thank you for your helpful comments.
  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It's bannable if you constatly kill them over and over stoping them for questing/leveling. And yes it has happened in harshland one to many times.

    Like I said, I'm not talking about harrassment (killing the same players over and over again). I'm talking about 1 high level player killing a lower level player when he is doing a quest, which was the question of the OP...
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    PWE really should make all the servers PVE, and once you got to level 80+, than you would have an option to go to a PVP server.....
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Norgannon - Lost City
    Norgannon - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Don't say that, deep inside they all want to be like us on PVE servers :) They are just not PVE-tough enough to admit it.

    Mindless grinding and tea parties it's not our thing. b:surrender
    PWE really should make all the servers PVE, and once you got to level 80+, than you would have an option to go to a PVP server.....

    No fun on that. Lowbies wanna PK too.
  • Saveless - Sanctuary
    Saveless - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    Like I said, I'm not talking about harrassment (killing the same players over and over again). I'm talking about 1 high level player killing a lower level player when he is doing a quest, which was the question of the OP...

    Yes. I was banned for standing next to someone who was griefing people in SP. (Don't close thread or anything GM...just adding input lol) So yeah, figure that one out.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Mindless grinding and tea parties it's not our thing. b:surrender



    No fun on that. Lowbies wanna PK too.

    If you read the comments "they" want to grind/level/quest in peace.. which is what PVE servers lets you do....

    Your level would be high enough to not get affected by the a one character level minimun before being allowed to join a pvp server :P
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  • Ascii - Harshlands
    Ascii - Harshlands Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    GM’s raged on Harshlands month or so ago and basically said if you PK in secret passage you will be banned. After like 100 world shouts of people saying “Yes, no pking on a PvP server” they came up with a bs answer something along this lines

    Its agenst the rules to pk players who are on vital Quests over and over, this is considered harassment. And ofc it was followed up with more wcs.

    Bottom line, unless you can find an active GM online whose also pee’d off, there’s nothing you can do about it and submitting tickets don’t work too, believe me if people actually submit one when they say, I’ve had 50+ filed agenst me o.-
  • Norgannon - Lost City
    Norgannon - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you read the comments "they" want to grind/level/quest in peace.. which is what PVE servers lets you do....

    Your level would be high enough to not get affected by the a one character level minimun before being allowed to join a pvp server :P

    I don't see that working very well, though. Maybe at Lvl. 70...

    The best solution: Put a warning after selecting server.

    "Are you sure you want to join the selected PvE/PvP server?" And maybe a link to the basic information about since which level you can PK/get PK'ed and such, for those who do not learn about the game before clicking buttons and join it.

    Since some people just go ahead and click whatever and then come here to complain. I did that myself, but never complained about it, always got PK'ed constantly and stuff, good ol' days. Those were the days, people. Now game is kind of dull and has driven me to run HH's, do quests and dailies all day long.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I don't see that working very well, though. Maybe at Lvl. 70...

    The best solution: Put a warning after selecting server.

    "Are you sure you want to join the selected PvE/PvP server?" And maybe a link to the basic information about since which level you can PK/get PK'ed and such, for those who do not learn about the game before clicking buttons and join it.

    Since some people just go ahead and click whatever and then come here to complain. I did that myself, but never complained about it, always got PK'ed constantly and stuff, good ol' days. Those were the days, people. Now game is kind of dull and has driven me to run HH's, do quests and dailies all day long.

    Yups..... All people had to do was check the boards before joining a server and they would figure it out.. but I guess it was too much trouble for them.

    You will see though, someday, you guys will have so many rules in the PVP servers that it will far easier to PVP on a PVE server......
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  • BratFury - Heavens Tear
    BratFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    Like I said, I'm not talking about harrassment (killing the same players over and over again). I'm talking about 1 high level player killing a lower level player when he is doing a quest, which was the question of the OP...

    This is why I don't roll Pvp. Just think, if someone was out questing; and those "high players" rolled on up. 30 of them over the span of 40 minutes, to teach that lowbie how its done. Even tho not one person constantly griefed a player over and over again. 30 people constantly griefed a player, over and over again. Therefore majorly affecting a persons game play. Yea its fun, I'm sure; for the one who is lvl 80 smacking a lvl 30. But that level 30 is seriously being mistreated. Pvp isn't about a lvl 80 beating down a lvl 30. It is about (and should be about) taking aggression out on ppl who tick you off. You then have a way to take out your frustrations. Also is about people who want to fight others on an even playing field. To see who not only knows how to play their character, but also knows the best way to defeat an opponent.

    Why do you think they came up with gear shatter? It wasn't b/c the Pvp system was awesome, perfect, magnificent. Its because it had flaws like that, and they came up with a way to try to deter high lvls from being bullies.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    PWE really should make all the servers PVE, and once you got to level 80+, than you would have an option to go to a PVP server.....

    An option? That's technically what a PvE server is. In a PvE server you have the option to go into PvP mode and from there you get to fight and PK against other confident, prepared, willing fighters. Most high level areas or major towns will have players in PvP mode. PvE servers have no rules against PK'ing others, you want to pk, just click that PvP mode button and fire away.

    In a PvP server, the only real difference is you get to hunt down lowbies, bully the weak, make others miserable and pick fights you know you can win. It's human nature I guess. Some ppl are into that sort of thing and that's why pvp servers exist.
    It just makes me lol when PvP players try to justify ganking n00bs and picking on them as valient and impressive.
  • Saveless - Sanctuary
    Saveless - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    PvE server can't have as good of a PvP fight as obviously a PvP server. Only time you can get 'em on a PvE server is TW. It's just not about ganking noobs, it's more about "Can have faction fights whenever....can kill someone who's taking your mobs....can help out a lowbie who's being attacked by a higher level" etc etc etc.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    jeez.... people need to learn about sarcasm <.<;;
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  • ZenGirl - Lost City
    ZenGirl - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    and some people dont know the difference between being sarcastic and being down right rude.
  • Saveless - Sanctuary
    Saveless - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Welcome to PWI forum.
  • Roojie - Lost City
    Roojie - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    PvP -Inner monologue: Gettothehighestlevel Yay! Haha one shot the nooblet. :D Ifeelbetternow.
    I always knew that harassing people less than half one’s level was a reportable offence…. Sorta, opinions always come into play when there is punishment. Never reported someone for it, but did have trouble with it… I manage not to **** people off enough to get hunted.
    There are some rules to PvP both written, unwritten and common sense, not allowing a player or players to level up and actually play the game or impeding them is equal to harassment and depending on who’s in a mood that day; can get people nailed. Punishment in the area is solely dependent on who is feeling what, though. (That’s what I’ve learned from all my internet travels.)
  • Loltank - Harshlands
    Loltank - Harshlands Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I can confirm the whole "banned for PKing in SP" stuff, Harshlands is pretty notorious for it.

    Ascii's already posted about it, and he's pretty much the authority on SP PK.

    On a side note, it's gotten so bad in SP that when I killed a red-name that was around my level in there, he said "i submit ticket an u get bant lol."

    "its perma-ban."

    Now I realize it probably won't happen, but the fact that it's gotten to the point where anytime you kill someone, you have to immediately worry about getting banned for it is bull****. It's much easier to just not PK. That's part of the reason Harshlands is dead.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I can confirm the whole "banned for PKing in SP" stuff, Harshlands is pretty notorious for it.

    Ascii's already posted about it, and he's pretty much the authority on SP PK.

    On a side note, it's gotten so bad in SP that when I killed a red-name that was around my level in there, he said "i submit ticket an u get bant lol."

    "its perma-ban."

    Now I realize it probably won't happen, but the fact that it's gotten to the point where anytime you kill someone, you have to immediately worry about getting banned for it is bull****. It's much easier to just not PK. That's part of the reason Harshlands is dead.

    The players bring it on themselves by harassing others and killing low levels.
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  • Jellytops - Heavens Tear
    Jellytops - Heavens Tear Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Should be some function in the game that stops people from attacking other people more than 10 lvls lower than themselfs. Unless the low-lvl attack you first that is. Just a thought... I know someone will prob. crush that idea, but still :0)
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  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    So wait... Now it'S a bannable offense to kill a lower player when he is doing a quest? What kind of **** PvP rule is that?

    Can we get a confirmation of a GM on this one?

    Or is this just a made up rule by a handful of players?

    Now don't get me wrong, killing a lower level while he is questing is definatly evil, but last time I checked, this is part of the PvP fun isn't it?

    PS: I'm also just talking about 1 guy killing another guy once. I'm not talking about harrassing another player and killing him 20 times in a row...

    No, it's not bannable for pking somebody doing a quest, because it's impossible to tell when people are questing or simply wandering around. But when people camp in SP killing everything that comes in. It makes it impossible for the lowers to finish their quest. That is the illegal part. Simply killing someone while doing a quest is just random pk, but camping in a known questing spot and not allowing people to pass is illegal.

    If this happens just take a screen shot and send it to pw.
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • Khristy - Heavens Tear
    Khristy - Heavens Tear Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    So if the whole problem with PvP is high levels making life miserable for the lowbies, why can't the devs just make it so that you can't attack a player half your lvl or lower? And I don't mean a "rule" that can be broken, I mean code it into the game. That would solve the problem of all the level 80+ camping SP.
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