Why cant barbs be DD

sooooo many bad ideas XD im not addressing them all specifically but here's my take on things. each class is designed to be good at something. bms are designed to be better dds than barbs. and they will be. barb gets more hp per vit than any other class and you would be wise to take advantage of that. you can shift some extra points to str and dex if you must but dont neglect your vit. for both pve and pvp a huge hp pool is desirable. personally, im very close to your standard tank build. i just use gear to boost my accuracy. im a good tank and i do very well in pvp. a barb built to dd in pve would do miserably poor in pvp. my advice if you want to deal more damage is to invest in refining a pair of calamitys when you hit 70. shifting your build to dd sounds like a terrible idea to me but if you can afford to restat a few times, experiment and let us know how it goes.

My vote on topic:
I'm with sticking to role based on skills not on stats soo DD on barb is good only when you are mid/high lvl and solo some low lvl fb's to low lvl friends lol you can't take all positives from your class if you adding stats without looking at skills. Barbs have shield skills, aggro skills and debuffs nothing really that make serious dmg except armageddon which actually depends on your hp/mp.


Off topic just to strighten some things I readed in here:

-True Form is the best to keep at lvl 1 for very long time, it DOESN'T add more def at higher lvls(like somebody wrote lol) and untill you need that 10-20% more hp just don't take it couse your dmg will DROP ALOT, that also means it's harder to keep aggro with lvl 2-3 true form couse all know how hard it to have enough spirit to keep ALL aggro skills maxed at lower/mid lvls soo decreasing dmg more is much worse than a little more hp. Also try to fight with barb on true form lvl 1 with maxed bonus def with any phys dmg class while they're both mid lvls and you'll see that keeping it at lvl 1 is also usefull at pvp=]. Same for grinding. Nice debuffs and still your dmg only decreses by 15%. Almost like demon barb.:O Aw forgot true form lvl 2-3 on lower lvls IS USEFULL... that is if you're a slave mount for your mistress=].

-Gear damn really seriously ppl should start wearing at least 3stars from 30 lvl when you can even buy rank eq >.< then look on AH for any 40 and up it's really cheap. 1 star and white? With such *****, you're a failure in every class =] maybe except veno, those shemales can at least lvl in such gear. Normally all your 1star whiters that wear it untill they can get their HH for free from guild are just a bother to any squad, both as an tank/dd or whatever, clerics have problem to heal you, you also make like half of dmg you could with better gear.

-Have problems with money on barb? Stop drinking potions while grinding, take some herbs to make +50 hp regen food same for mp if you want to kill very fast and in 3* gear you don't need a single potion.:O You'll triple your money that you spent on new good gear while doing next 10 lvls and then you can sell your previous gear.=] No guild here, first character in PWI, only 3*/legendary/hh gear + some fun unneeded things and no begging to get that=].

one other thing what is tank

Just let barbs do whatever they want. I'd stat to bowbarian if I didn't quit PWI.

By most deadly i wouldnt say perdition.
Id say the mage ultimates are more feared because they do not miss, do massive damage.
The perdition can outdamage the mage ultimates with a crit+zerk and stuff so its the hardest hitting skill but the mages do more constant higher damage (i think O.o)

I have 9k hp at lvl 70, I am clearly tank build not DD. I whip out my calam axes and with underleveled humanoid skills start damaging as much as the 69 archer in my group. 7-11k without crits on skills. Even did a lucky crit zerk regular attack did 7k. I know that I cant spam skills and a BM with my axes could do better damage, but mine are for solo and lower lvl BHs n such. Gotta love a +4 pair of calams with immac acc and flawless +phys atk.b:victory Just remember as a barb you should be a tank first, I swap to my TT70 axes for most bosses and if things arent going well.

also...lycanthar do u really have 13% crit as a barb? thats crazy

PandamoniumV - Sanctuary wrote: »

lycanthar do u really have 13% crit as a barb? thats crazy

15% actually.

160 dex = 9% base.
2 crit rings (2% ea) = 13%
Demon Shapeshifting Intesity = 15%

Gabriil - Lost City wrote: »

Add a nice 1% crit lvl 1 arrow, remove the bow and let the arrow be, and you get and additional 1% crit. Ta da!

GM's confirmed some time ago this does not work.

Lycanthar - Sanctuary wrote: »

I recently quit playing PWI on a regular basis and restated for the hell of it. I have 250~ STR and 160 DEX now, and its a lot of fun. Paired with 2x 2% crit rings, a passive demon skill that also lends 2% crit, and Calamity Axes the zerk crits come like clockwork. I also picked up some decent fists and bows for lulz.

You can restat to whatever you like, I know another 90+ barb with almost 400 STR that hits like a truck.

Just be aware that when you steal points from VIT you have to heavily upgrade your gear to recoupe the lost HP else your character will be ruined.

I also would not recommend a restat away from the classic tank build until lvl 90+.

This is actually close to the build I have at lvl 81 (150 vit, 256 str, 60 dex). I have rings that add +1% to crit with a natural crit rate of +5%. I also have calamity axes refined +3 (more refining to follow). With that combo, I can DD pretty well for a barb when solo grinding in upright, especially when berserk stacks with crits (18-19k dmg).

Even though I'm a hybrid, I do have the required tiger form skills (true form, shape shifting, flesh ream) maxed to their fullest for tanking duty's. I'm 700 hp short of 10k hp (in tiger form), and I do just fine for the insane bosses ppl like to throw at me. (just don't ask me to tank krimson, I kill myself XD)

I would say that being a hybrid build is one of the best ways to go if you do a lot of solo grinding/questing in pve. Just try to keep vit and str more even (don't up dex too much) or you're going to run into problems just staying alive.