A GM once said...

Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
edited September 2009 in General Discussion
xarfox wrote: »

Currently gold prices are inflated, however they should fall back down after this event/sale, perhaps even to a lower benchmark since so much coin is being sunk out of the game right now.

Gold trading is something that we pay a lot of attention to at PWE. We realize that a large number of players get their gold through the auction house, and carefully watch that system with a variety of metrics, statistics, and tools. You can be sure that when you guys are upset about high Gold prices, we become concerned for our players who can't afford to charge their ZEN directly.

This might look like a QQ thread about the update but it's more than that. I'm simply asking a GM to back up his words or at least give us some explanation. Gold prices are around 400k. Now you can't say you didn't see this coming or blame it on the people that are buying the gold at such price. Why wouldn't they buy it if you give them incentive to? If you put a new item in the Cash Shop that's worth 400k in the game and charge 1 gold for it instead of 2, of course the price of gold will go to 400k. But in the mean time, the price of other essential items such as charms or Guardian Angels, are still the same. This means that a 500k charm now costs 1 mil. Sure, if you are a cash player, it makes no difference to you since charm will always be the same amount of gold, but for the players who grind coins in game and buy charms with coins... they now have to work twice as hard.

This inflation only make the game easier for the cash players. A skill that will cost them 200k, hence 1 gold to learn will now only cost 1/2 gold. I don't want to believe that PWI only cares about cash players. I know that PWI wouldn't exist if it weren't for cash players. On the other hand, gold is also meaningless w/o free players that buy them at reasonable price. Cash players can have fun with their mounts and fashion, but they'll still have to grind for hrs to just learn that skill.
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  • Jer - Dreamweaver
    Jer - Dreamweaver Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I hope they do somethin about the prices soon
  • Kylley - Sanctuary
    Kylley - Sanctuary Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Youre kidding right? O.O golds cant be 400k, no way! >.<b:surrender
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  • Vezz - Heavens Tear
    Vezz - Heavens Tear Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Jer - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I hope they do something about the prices soon
    Only when it is too late.
  • Anberlin - Lost City
    Anberlin - Lost City Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Thread topic should be changed to: "A GM once lied..."


    "we become concerned for our players who can't afford to charge their ZEN directly." -> Ahahahaha, so they show their concern by giving some of the best weapons in the game to the people can charge zen!


    Imagine how they show their dislike.
  • Predikador - Harshlands
    Predikador - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I love this. Is like riding the waves of a colapsing world.b:pleased
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anberlin - Lost City wrote: »
    Thread topic should be changed to: "A GM once lied..."

    Not if I actually want this to be opened.
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  • undone
    undone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    And we see the departure of a large portion of PWI's current player base.


    Bills got to be paid right PWE? So do mine...b:bye
  • Anberlin - Lost City
    Anberlin - Lost City Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Not if I actually want this to be opened.

    Good point.
    Predikador - Harshlands wrote: »
    I love this. Is like riding the waves of a colapsing world.b:pleased

    I know, right? You can only imagine how many new subscribers "you-know-what" is going to get from this.
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If they were monitoring the gold prices they wouldnt have done event after event after event during these past several weeks. The anniversary thing has taken gold to like 4-500k each which is really past a joke.

    I hope a GM can comment on this.
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  • FearedByAll - Lost City
    FearedByAll - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This might look like a QQ thread about the update but it's more than that. I'm simply asking a GM to back up his words or at least give us some explanation. Gold prices are around 400k. Now you can't say you didn't see this coming or blame it on the people that are buying the gold at such price. Why wouldn't they buy it if you give them incentive to? If you put a new item in the Cash Shop that's worth 400k in the game and charge 1 gold for it instead of 2, of course the price of gold will go to 400k. But in the mean time, the price of other essential items such as charms or Guardian Angels, are still the same. This means that a 500k charm now costs 1 mil. Sure, if you are a cash player, it makes no difference to you since charm will always be the same amount of gold, but for the players who grind coins in game and buy charms with coins... they now have to work twice as hard.

    This inflation only make the game easier for the cash players. A skill that will cost them 200k, hence 1 gold to learn will now only cost 1/2 gold. I don't want to believe that PWI only cares about cash players. I know that PWI wouldn't exist if it weren't for cash players. On the other hand, gold is also meaningless w/o free players that buy them at reasonable price. Cash players can have fun with their mounts and fashion, but they'll still have to grind for hrs to just learn that skill.

    It is a QQ thread, its the anniversary of PWI of course the prices of gold would go up dramatically so more zen would be charged be happy you non Zen chargers got a good gift of 2x experience weekends and a free mount for the early registered people. Idk why everyone is in shock about the gold prices.
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    FearedByAll - Lost City wrote: »
    It is a QQ thread, its the anniversary of PWI of course the prices of gold would go up dramatically so more zen would be charged be happy you non Zen chargers got a good gift of 2x experience weekends and a free mount for the early registered people. Idk why everyone is in shock about the gold prices.

    Oh idk, maybe because the things people use to do for coins such as Rebirth and grind is no longer profitable?
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  • norbertbeaver
    norbertbeaver Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    simple solution would be put a cap in auction house for 200k problem solved
  • Predikador - Harshlands
    Predikador - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Anberlin - Lost City wrote: »
    Good point.



    I know, right? You can only imagine how many new subscribers "you-know-what" is going to get from this.

    I think "you-know-what-game" actually developed this last event.
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Predikador - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think "you-know-what-game" actually developed this last events.

    ROFL. Can't say I'm not considering it.
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Not even 1% of the active players are here complaining. among all posts I read so far no-one wrote the word boycott or similar so tomorrow everyone will be playing PW like the usual and QQ will eventially cease.

    PW is supposed to be profitful and the patches aim, among game improvements, MORE INCOME to the hoster. you see? in the end it's all about money.

    even if GMs are upset with all the mess they cannot and will not do a thing. good to see Xarfox cares about the community to the point he promised something he's not allowed to do. but... I shall not tell that's a good thing for his career either.
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  • Predikador - Harshlands
    Predikador - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    There is a diff between profitful and "hey lets see how much we can **** **** up"!
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Predikador - Harshlands wrote: »
    There is a diff between profitful and "hey lets see how much we can **** **** up"!

    Let's not drift from the topic and get this thread locked. b:surrender
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  • Anberlin - Lost City
    Anberlin - Lost City Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Predikador - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think "you-know-what-game" actually developed this last event.

    LOL


    A conspiracy emerges! But nah, not even "that company" could dream up something this epic.
  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not even 1% of the active players are here complaining. among all posts I read so far no-one wrote the word boycott or similar so tomorrow everyone will be playing PW like the usual and QQ will eventially cease.

    PW is supposed to be profitful and the patches aim, among game improvements, MORE INCOME to the hoster. you see? in the end it's all about money.

    even if GMs are upset with all the mess they cannot and will not do a thing. good to see Xarfox cares about the community to the point he promised something he's not allowed to do. but... I shall not tell that's a good thing for his career either.

    Don't need to write boycot or anything similar,everyone knows economies been given a hydrogen bomb up the jacksie and gm's can't fix it now or remove all those endgame items,personally just npced 50mils worth of gear,**** pw the game and **** the incompetent jackoffs who run it.
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    THEY DONT CARE


    Beleive it or not they dont care about the players. They want their money, that is all. They couldn't care less about what goes on in the game, thier only concern is selling as much zen as possible.
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  • Forsakensin - Dreamweaver
    Forsakensin - Dreamweaver Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    fact: the developers ****ed up the economy once again

    fact: the GM's cant fix the gold prices because they can't/wont flood the gold market with cheap gold

    fact:it is a "free" game but if you dont use cash shop your ****ed for ever hitting higher levels

    fact: the newest "event" has ****ed up the economy BEYOND REPAIR, those of us that have to grind out coin for Rebirth and the like CANNOT do them because the ******ned gold prices are so high that a gold charm costs 1.5 mil

    Solution: cap the gold at 200K i know this solution will NOT take place, but it is a nice thought
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  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Kylley - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Youre kidding right? O.O golds cant be 400k, no way! >.<b:surrender

    On Harshlands are actually hitting 900k each.

    And it is only first day of event. Before the end of the month PWI will break up if this event won't end before.
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I second the OP's statements... tbh I was planning on quoting the same thing and calling shennanigans on it. XD

    My question is this: do the higher-ups even hear us? I might just make a thread asking that exact question. >_>
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  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »
    THEY DONT CARE


    Beleive it or not they dont care about the players. They want their money, that is all. They couldn't care less about what goes on in the game, thier only concern is selling as much zen as possible.

    Pfff this way PWI servers won't exist for more than few weeks. I don't think this is in selling ZEN interests.

    Or maybe, as any is saying, they are scared by **** that is coming out on 22th september, so they want to make all the money they can before everyone will go on ****.

    And they are wrong. I don't think everyone is going on ****... But they will if this crazyness won't be fixed NOW.
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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