hardest class?
Alyyy - Sanctuary
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just wondering which 1 is the hardest....?
my opinion
veno
cleric
archer
bm
barb
wiz
select which 1 is the hardest in ur opinion and post a coment...
EDIT: .....poll is broken
my opinion
veno
cleric
archer
bm
barb
wiz
select which 1 is the hardest in ur opinion and post a coment...
EDIT: .....poll is broken
Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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easiest class: Veno
for obvious reasons, a pet can tank almost better than a barb (and better than a barb at low levels), u don't need a cleric with ya like a barb would and when u mastered a few skills u can play with near no costs
most venos suck at PvP, it's not their fault but it's the class that is bad balanced and basically get pwned by everything unless they use that special bramble... to solve this devs found that a damn high attack pet like a Nix (and venos abuse the flesh ream bug on it) would have helped and it did, oh it did
hardest class: wizard/barb, I can't choose
wizard can be a pain from 1 to 80, while after 80 and especially 90 they start to become the best class of the game but they are also meat for the Nixs...
barbs are well known for the high charm and repair costs and they are also slow and boring to level but they aren't hard at all... just... boring... u start to deal with hard things only with the first instances where u have a vital role[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Wizards. Definitely. The most squishy class in the game, and the very definition of a glass cannon - high damage, but dies from being poked with a stick.
Venos is one of the easiest classes, only because you work from the sidelines rather than in the middle of it all like the other classes.0 -
Wizards for PVE grinding - obscenely easy, self heal spell, knockback and range knockback in the form of force of will (basically), earth spells on water mobs = immense xp (fish). Variety of aoe moves.
Hardest imo would be barb seeing as though you're running to each mob, hitting them for **** damage, paying tons for repair costs, and no self healing move = charm tick\pot usage.
Wizards for solo PVP - apparently hard but anything that ain't a barb 1v1 seems easy to me pre 9x, assuming they don't just retreat in which case it's sort of hard to stop them unless I occult ice in time.
Lol at people saying wizards are squishy and die easily - seeing as though we have probably the highest magic defence in the game at arcane 9x (earth barrier, cleric buffs), distance shrink, force of will, a brain to kite... and who doesn't refine their gear to +4\5 with g7 shards at 9x?0 -
Damaged - Lost City wrote: »Hardest imo would be barb seeing as though you're running to each mob, hitting them for **** damage, paying tons for repair costs, and no self healing move
Techinically they do have a self heal when they use sunder. I do still believe Barb is the most anoying timewise for grinding. I agree with most ur other points.0 -
_makina_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Techinically they do have a self heal when they use sunder. I do still believe Barb is the most anoying timewise for grinding. I agree with most ur other points.
My bad.
Another reiteration - as a mage before you get distance shrink and can't kite properly (the noob nonfactor levels), yes it might be difficult, but things get sooooooo easy0 -
ewen with stone barier and cleric buffs ur phy def isnt that high to actualy have a good efect lol
i think any mele classes are hard >< i just cant play them lol....i cant play archers either >.>Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »ewen with stone barier and cleric buffs ur phy def isnt that high to actualy have a good efect lol
i think any mele classes are hard >< i just cant play them lol....i cant play archers either >.>
Archers are a easy class. Point, slow, shoot, knockback, shoot for pve. PVP you arent anygood without a well lvl'd aim low, stunning arrow, and all metal skills except stormrage by urself. Before slow or knockback lol just take aim and grin and bear it. I liked bm since i didnt have to sacrifice too much dex for hp unlike barbs. I hate miss, miss, hit, miss even with bloodbath >.< havent gotten high enough for misty's though only lvl 60. I feel pressured to be a vit barb since if your a barb who cant tank or doesnt have tiger its like embarrasing lol.
lvl 90 arcane wiz with stone barrier and cleric buff should have a number around 5.5k pdef thats about 60% reduction. With BM buff its 6.5k pdef and around 65% reduction. Its not super amazing but i find it ok compared to around 2.3k pdef and around 38% reduction unbuffed.0 -
lol barb a hard class? LMAO
barbs are just slow lvl'ers that all there is to it
wizards are definetly hardest class
altho they're OP at 100+ b:laughthanks to forsaken for this awesome sig b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
mmmmmm mages they taste good.
For PvE hardest class would probably be clerics IMO.
It's their responsibility to keep the tank healed the entire time while also looking out for everyone else's HP, as well as the occasional purify and if someone dies they have to try to res the dead person while still healing the tank. And they have to stay alive as well because if they die then the entire party dies.The only way to win is to quit. b:bye0 -
Veno.
lololololol
Nah, Wizards/Mages are pretty hard to play. I ragequit mine and made a Veno.Aina says hi. b:bye0 -
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Veno=easy
Cleric=hard
archer=medium
barb=easy but boring
Wiz=hard
BM=med[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
You ppl are funny b:bye
no class is hard with hp charm, just wiz at low lvls b:bye0 -
^ this.b:byeCrazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Veno=easy
Cleric=hard
archer=medium
barb=easy but boring
Wiz=hard
BM=medQuit.0 -
Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Veno=easy
Cleric=hard
archer=medium
barb=easy but boring
Wiz=hard
BM=med
explain me the hard part of the cleric[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »explain me the hard part of the cleric
Having to put up with all the idiots thinking they should be heal slaves, the Leeroy Jenkins types in PW, the barbs that think they can tank, but really can't, etc. That being said, I honestly don't think there is a "Hardest" class, as each class has its advantages in its own realm. Veno is obviously the easiest solo class, and wizard is one of the hardest solo classes.
However, when in a squad, especially inside a dungeon, the group dynamics change. Veno then becomes the hardest class, as (A GOOD VENO, not some stupid noob) they become responsible for pulling, tanking, debuffing, DDing, or whatever else the squad wants them to fill for. By that same token, a wizard, by pure definition, then becomes the easiest class in an FB run, as their job can simply be summed up as "Kill that, would you?" Granted, wizards can heal, but not many people I know would ask a wizard to heal, when there is a more than capable cleric willing to do the job.
Now, truthfully? As I play both a Wizard, and a Veno, I actually prefer my Veno for the challenge, and my Wizard for the simplicity. It's quite refreshing to simply click a mob, and hit the "KILL" button. Or, "KILL MORE", "KILL IT BANG!", "KILL IT WITH FIRE"... You get the point... I wish I could just point and kill with my Veno, but I have to shuffle a pet, and keep an eye on my cooldowns, or simply spam the same spell over, and over, and over again. To each their own, but I honestly don't think we can ever qualify a class as "Hardest".0 -
OMG, wizards are soooo easy for pve, on my 68 wizzy mobs die like bugs all u need to do is find a good spot to stand in (so u wont get ganged) , select a mob and 3 attacks BOOM dead mob, PC: mobs start agro at u with 50% of their hp divine pyro takes it all.
but of course venos are the easiest tell me about it b:victory
as for barbs i have 72 barb and yea, he is very strong and i almost never had my hp lower than 50% even when im ganged, but geez barbs are slow killers i couldnt play barb after 70+ its gridning is extremly boring, barbs arent 'hard' to play but it is 'hard' to play when you are bored xD
BMs are fun to grind when u have hp/mp charm aoe grinding is the best grinding i ever played b:pleased
as for clerics i have 62 cleric and i dont think they are so hard to play.
as far as i know :
venos are the easiest and barbs are the hardest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I think the hardest class to play is your first one.
Every alt I've played has seemed easy after playing my BM.Retired
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AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »I think the hardest class to play is your first one.
Every alt I've played has seemed easy after playing my BM.
True, when you first start playing it's hard to figure out game mechanics and how things work, and a lot of things are similar between classes (learning the rhythm of skills, etc).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »explain me the hard part of the clericIsala - Sanctuary wrote: »Having to put up with all the idiots thinking they should be heal slaves, the Leeroy Jenkins types in PW, the barbs that think they can tank, but really can't, etc.
What they said. I mean, sure if I die and there happens to be a cleric nearby I'll ask politely for a resurrection once. If they say no, I just take my experience loss and heal up in town. I've never once begged a cleric from my guild to come and resurrect me, or lay there for half an hour begging everyone that came by to resurrect me, or find a cleric who would. At my level, most of the clerics in the areas I'm likely to be won't have a resurrection spell that will really save me more than 1-2%, 3% tops anyway. In the time it would take me to wait for a cleric to just happen to come along, I could be back to work killing monsters and recuperating the lost experience.0 -
TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »explain me the hard part of the cleric
Hmmm where should I begin...? Ok here is one. You are tanking fb69 twin bosses with 1 or 2 clerics. The boss debuff you. If the cleric is good you will be purified immediately. What you don't know is that Healing has a lag. If timing is off by 1-2 seconds, purify won't work till 2-3 seconds after that. That means you will be taking 2k dmg per hit for 3-4 seconds before you get purified. If boss hits faster than 1 hit per second...you are going to die. Ironheart heals every second so if it can't catch up in time you will die. Same can be said for krimson when he can double debuff the tank. Clerics have to watch out for everyone in the squad, not just you. If some idiot decides to run ahead with no cleric behind him, he will either die, or get everyone else killed. If cleric heals him and he dies, guess who the mobs run after? b:shocked0 -
Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »Having to put up with all the idiots thinking they should be heal slaves, the Leeroy Jenkins types in PW, the barbs that think they can tank, but really can't, etc. That being said, I honestly don't think there is a "Hardest" class, as each class has its advantages in its own realm. Veno is obviously the easiest solo class, and wizard is one of the hardest solo classes.
However, when in a squad, especially inside a dungeon, the group dynamics change. Veno then becomes the hardest class, as (A GOOD VENO, not some stupid noob) they become responsible for pulling, tanking, debuffing, DDing, or whatever else the squad wants them to fill for. By that same token, a wizard, by pure definition, then becomes the easiest class in an FB run, as their job can simply be summed up as "Kill that, would you?" Granted, wizards can heal, but not many people I know would ask a wizard to heal, when there is a more than capable cleric willing to do the job.
Now, truthfully? As I play both a Wizard, and a Veno, I actually prefer my Veno for the challenge, and my Wizard for the simplicity. It's quite refreshing to simply click a mob, and hit the "KILL" button. Or, "KILL MORE", "KILL IT BANG!", "KILL IT WITH FIRE"... You get the point... I wish I could just point and kill with my Veno, but I have to shuffle a pet, and keep an eye on my cooldowns, or simply spam the same spell over, and over, and over again. To each their own, but I honestly don't think we can ever qualify a class as "Hardest".
that doesn't count as "hard" part imoMad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »Hmmm where should I begin...? Ok here is one. You are tanking fb69 twin bosses with 1 or 2 clerics. The boss debuff you. If the cleric is good you will be purified immediately. What you don't know is that Healing has a lag. If timing is off by 1-2 seconds, purify won't work till 2-3 seconds after that. That means you will be taking 2k dmg per hit for 3-4 seconds before you get purified. If boss hits faster than 1 hit per second...you are going to die. Ironheart heals every second so if it can't catch up in time you will die. Same can be said for krimson when he can double debuff the tank. Clerics have to watch out for everyone in the squad, not just you. If some idiot decides to run ahead with no cleric behind him, he will either die, or get everyone else killed. If cleric heals him and he dies, guess who the mobs run after? b:shocked
we barbs have the same problems, in a fb 69 if we get a noob cleric we will die pretty fast or the team will start attacking the barb cuz he didn't stop all aoes while the idiots were at 2 meters from the boss and took double damage
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I have to agree with TheGoliath here, thats not a hard part about benig a cleric. That's called knowing your limits/skills. Also the 'esc' button works wonders, so you can cancel the heal and purify right away. Also a smart cleric wouldnt heal the noob who ran upto poke krimson in the first place. These are party/teamwork/timing(*cough barb aoe canceling comes to mind for timing*// lightning chaser) issues nothing making a cleric hard. (Has a lvl 70 cleric btw)Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »Hmmm where should I begin...? Ok here is one. You are tanking fb69 twin bosses with 1 or 2 clerics. The boss debuff you. If the cleric is good you will be purified immediately. What you don't know is that Healing has a lag. If timing is off by 1-2 seconds, purify won't work till 2-3 seconds after that. That means you will be taking 2k dmg per hit for 3-4 seconds before you get purified. If boss hits faster than 1 hit per second...you are going to die. Ironheart heals every second so if it can't catch up in time you will die. Same can be said for krimson when he can double debuff the tank. Clerics have to watch out for everyone in the squad, not just you. If some idiot decides to run ahead with no cleric behind him, he will either die, or get everyone else killed. If cleric heals him and he dies, guess who the mobs run after? b:shocked
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None are hard if you know how to play.0 -
EVERY class is stupid easy. XP is handed to us left and right, and so are drops. We make the game challenging or difficult for ourselves even if it's balancing the coin (including equips) to xp ratio.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »just wondering which 1 is the hardest....?
my opinion
veno
cleric
archer
bm
barb
wiz
select which 1 is the hardest in ur opinion and post a coment...
EDIT: .....poll is broken
Barbs is the hardest class to lvl up by far, cant compare it to any other class, barbs are just horrible to play in pve at low lvls its just miss miss, mobs kites, miss miss.
Wizards is hardest class to play in pvp since you really need to know what your doing and what skills to use at right time. Wizards are not that hard to lvl up tho.
Veno is easy mode, easiest to play in pvp and easiest to lvl up, but hardest to play in TT since u cant afk like everyone else ;(0 -
Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »Barbs is the hardest class to lvl up by far, cant compare it to any other class, barbs are just horrible to play in pve at low lvls its just miss miss, mobs kites, miss miss.
Wizards is hardest class to play in pvp since you really need to know what your doing and what skills to use at right time. Wizards are not that hard to lvl up tho.
Veno is easy mode, easiest to play in pvp and easiest to lvl up, but hardest to play in TT since u cant afk like everyone else ;(
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Barbs
...and low level wizards."Let's all be reasonable here. PWI hasn't fully kept their word about anything since the "Permanent" Charm Packs. This is just another example. We should be used to it by now." -Isala0 -
AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »I think the hardest class to play is your first one.
Every alt I've played has seemed easy after playing my BM.
This too
dou8le post sorry"Let's all be reasonable here. PWI hasn't fully kept their word about anything since the "Permanent" Charm Packs. This is just another example. We should be used to it by now." -Isala0 -
I don't understand this at all, barbs are no slower leveling than anything else, they do barely barely less damage than BMs. They have more health and don't need to use any mana so there's less need to meditate.
Nothing about this game is hard.
Veno -> send pet, hold down venomous scarab
Mage -> hit macro that alternates gush & pyro
Cleric -> hold down ironheart
Archer -> auto attack
BM -> auto attack
Tank -> auto attack
Such skill, timing, and coordination is involved, lol.0 -
TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »that doesn't count as "hard" part imo
we barbs have the same problems, in a fb 69 if we get a noob cleric we will die pretty fast or the team will start attacking the barb cuz he didn't stop all aoes while the idiots were at 2 meters from the boss and took double damage
those are party/team issues
Okay.
I run a barb on HT (Red) and 57 barb and a 53 cleric on LC.
The cleric is more difficult. It costs more than my barb does, gets killed more often than my barb does, and I have a huge backlog of quests for melee mobs. Each of those melee quests will take me a couple of hours to complete myself - I just can't storm in and bust heads like I do with the barb.
As a barb I'm tasked with trying to keep aggro from overzelous BMs and archers, and to protect the cleric who is saving my behind.
As a cleric, I have to save the behind of the BM/wiz/archer who think they are tanks, and keep the barb alive who doesn't yet know how to keep aggro, and the veno who goes after 3 mobs in a bunch and starts healing, making the other 2 mobs come after her....
...and I burn up a MP charm everytime I do.
I vote cleric hardest.
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