hardest class?

Nakhimov - Lost City

In everythin but instances, mage is hardest.
In HH/FB it's cleric.

Mad_Doc - Sanctuary

Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have to agree with TheGoliath here, thats not a hard part about benig a cleric. That's called knowing your limits/skills. Also the 'esc' button works wonders, so you can cancel the heal and purify right away. Also a smart cleric wouldnt heal the noob who ran upto poke krimson in the first place. These are party/teamwork/timing(*cough barb aoe canceling comes to mind for timing*// lightning chaser) issues nothing making a cleric hard. (Has a lvl 70 cleric btw)

@OP
None are hard if you know how to play.

If the esc button worked like you said, clerics would be so much easier to play. But the fact is, that does not work. It worked for other skills, except ironheart especially once you started a spamming chain of IH. Esc has to be held down for 1+ seconds before skill would stop. I also didn't refer to ppl running into krimson, I was refering to the veno/archer/etc who runs into mobs in TTs/FBs. Knowing your skill is one thing, but the hard part is timing it right and keeping an eye on everyone else + the tank. Try playing high lvl cleric and see for yourself. I have played every high lvl class except archer. I know the difference. :P

Obsessed - Heavens Tear

Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »

If the esc button worked like you said, clerics would be so much easier to play. But the fact is, that does not work. It worked for other skills, except ironheart especially once you started a spamming chain of IH. Esc has to be held down for 1+ seconds before skill would stop. I also didn't refer to ppl running into krimson, I was refering to the veno/archer/etc who runs into mobs in TTs/FBs. Knowing your skill is one thing, but the hard part is timing it right and keeping an eye on everyone else + the tank. Try playing high lvl cleric and see for yourself. I have played every high lvl class except archer. I know the difference. :P

ESC works fine, maybe you need a better computer. Also people running into mobs is still party issues, not cleric issues, maybe you shouldnt be around incompetant people.

High level like.. you? I lol'd. I've played clerics(not just my own) through plenty of TTs/FBs. It's probably one of the simplier classes imho, and I've played(+leveled) every class upto 70ish+ except barb.

Like I Said you are just talking about knowing your skills, and incompetant parties, which effects every class, not just clerics.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't understand this at all, barbs are no slower leveling than anything else, they do barely barely less damage than BMs. They have more health and don't need to use any mana so there's less need to meditate.

Nothing about this game is hard.
Veno -> send pet, hold down venomous scarab
Mage -> hit macro that alternates gush & pyro
Cleric -> hold down ironheart
Archer -> auto attack
BM -> auto attack
Tank -> auto attack

Such skill, timing, and coordination is involved, lol.

Your veno suggestion would make a very dead pet and veno.. however send pet, hold down heal key should work for most things... even if it would take a long time to kill.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Aquilonian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Barbs

...and low level wizards.

barbs ........no lol.
If a class allows you to take your eyes off the screen for a few sec. either in solo or squad, it doubt its hard. barbs i dont think register as this. Venos, MAYBE. But they got a CHOICE of going the hard way or not. The classes with this lack of choice are i think wizzy and cleric.

Wizzy= self restraint. I cannot stress how much DDs are trigger happy in this game without knowing their limits or their aggro 'rates' and that their role is not just 'give it all they got'. There is no class that is such a no brainer and this is not one of them.
Clerics=what else class constantly has to look out for the WHOLE squad as their EXPECTED job. Hold down ironheart? Sure lemme just focus on the barb and go afk. Turn around once and someone is already dead. This is only one example for a squad mode but take TT or any dungeon like place. Ive seen EVERY SINGLE CLASS go afk during midboss fights, even if its for a bathroom break. Imagine how big everyones eyes would bug out if a cleric asked to afk a min or 2 midfight, or worst yet afk without telling anyone like how some melee do.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

barbs ........no lol.
If a class allows you to take your eyes off the screen for a few sec. either in solo or squad, it doubt its hard. barbs i dont think register as this. Venos, MAYBE. But they got a CHOICE of going the hard way or not. The classes with this lack of choice are i think wizzy and cleric.

Wizzy= self restraint. I cannot stress how much DDs are trigger happy in this game without knowing their limits or their aggro 'rates' and that their role is not just 'give it all they got'. There is no class that is such a no brainer and this is not one of them.
Clerics=what else class constantly has to look out for the WHOLE squad as their EXPECTED job. Hold down ironheart? Sure lemme just focus on the barb and go afk. Turn around once and someone is already dead. This is only one example for a squad mode but take TT or any dungeon like place. Ive seen EVERY SINGLE CLASS go afk during midboss fights, even if its for a bathroom break. Imagine how big everyones eyes would bug out if a cleric asked to afk a min or 2 midfight, or worst yet afk without telling anyone like how some melee do.

I have seen lots of clerics go AFK.... they set up BB or RB than go do something and come back later.... You cannot tell me it is that hard to get a bubble going, heck you don't even have to target anything

Redmenace - Heavens Tear

Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »

ESC works fine, maybe you need a better computer. Also people running into mobs is still party issues, not cleric issues, maybe you shouldnt be around incompetant people.

High level like.. you? I lol'd. I've played clerics(not just my own) through plenty of TTs/FBs. It's probably one of the simplier classes imho, and I've played(+leveled) every class upto 70ish+ except barb.

Like I Said you are just talking about knowing your skills, and incompetant parties, which effects every class, not just clerics.

Then aren't we fortunate to have *you* here to show us how it's done.

Maybe you need a *slightly* smaller Ego.

RedMenace

\didn't lecture anyone
\\just pointed out my experiences

Centetric - Lost City

Aadi - Lost City wrote: »

True, when you first start playing it's hard to figure out game mechanics and how things work, and a lot of things are similar between classes (learning the rhythm of skills, etc).

my main used to be a wiz.
when my friend sajiki told me everything she knew about the game.

i rerolled a cleric and thats wat im playin now b:cute

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »

High level like.. you? I lol'd. I've played clerics(not just my own) through plenty of TTs/FBs. It's probably one of the simplier classes imho, and I've played(+leveled) every class upto 70ish+ except barb.

Arrogance much?
lvling and playing up to 70 is chiken shat. Mad_doc has been playing his characters 85-90+. (after 90 its literally delta spam and dailies so higher lvl do not = experience which you so indirectly looked down and laughed at.)

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have seen lots of clerics go AFK.... they set up BB or RB than go do something and come back later.... You cannot tell me it is that hard to get a bubble going, heck you don't even have to target anything

thats a fail cleric especially in a dungeon where the squad is literally 'traveling'. Kick it.

Dandelyn - Heavens Tear

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

However, when in a squad, especially inside a dungeon, the group dynamics change. Veno then becomes the hardest class, as (A GOOD VENO, not some stupid noob) they become responsible for pulling, tanking, debuffing, DDing, or whatever else the squad wants them to fill for. By that same token, a wizard, by pure definition, then becomes the easiest class in an FB run, as their job can simply be summed up as "Kill that, would you?" Granted, wizards can heal, but not many people I know would ask a wizard to heal, when there is a more than capable cleric willing to do the job.

Now, truthfully? As I play both a Wizard, and a Veno, I actually prefer my Veno for the challenge, and my Wizard for the simplicity. It's quite refreshing to simply click a mob, and hit the "KILL" button. Or, "KILL MORE", "KILL IT BANG!", "KILL IT WITH FIRE"... You get the point... I wish I could just point and kill with my Veno, but I have to shuffle a pet, and keep an eye on my cooldowns, or simply spam the same spell over, and over, and over again. To each their own, but I honestly don't think we can ever qualify a class as "Hardest".

Thank you for saying this. At times I feel like the weight of the squad is depending on my every click. Generally, venomancers are jack-of-all-trades but aren't especially good at any one aspect, so we have to manage our choices wisely depending on the situation.

Alyyy - Sanctuary

Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Cleric=hard

lol ?

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Veno=easy
Cleric=hard
archer=medium
barb=easy but boring
Wiz=hard
BM=med

I would have to agree with this.

Alyyy - Sanctuary

>.> since when is cleric hard

StormHydra - Sanctuary

I have a lvl 2x wizard, lvl 5x archer (main) lvl 2x cleric and lvl 15 bm lols. Lots of nooby characters...

But id have to say, at lvl 20-30 wizard is sooo easy. Divine Pyrogram=1/2 hp left. gush=1/4 hp. normal pyrogram=dead.
Divine Pyrogram+stone rain=1/16 hp left. Then whack it.
I think the hardness of wizard gets over exaggerated.

Archer is kinda hard at lvl 20. Lvl 40- gets pretty easy. Archers are probably the middle class of all of it, along with BMs.

The hardest class is probably cleric, then wizard. though. Your spells dont really do much damage, you have no knockback move (wizard and archer both get them) and you have really low hp, second only to the wizard. Yes you have heal, but it still gets annoying when you have to heal in the middle of a fight, then you get hit again while you heal, and theres this little bit where you have pretty low hp while you do a quick plume shot to kill it.
PVE only...Best class in pvp is archer =D

Alyyy - Sanctuary

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

The hardest class is probably cleric, then wizard. though. Your spells dont really do much damage, you have no knockback move (wizard and archer both get them) and you have really low hp, second only to the wizard. Yes you have heal, but it still gets annoying when you have to heal in the middle of a fight, then you get hit again while you heal, and theres this little bit where you have pretty low hp while you do a quick plume shot to kill it.
PVE only...Best class in pvp is archer =D

theres always the fine art of kitingb:bye