Is the game Unfair?

Whiteleo - Lost City
Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
edited August 2009 in General Discussion
to replace a cleric or a barb , wiz and archers are kicked out of squad.
i know what is the ****ing reason.
and we are too hard to find a squad and no one want to help for our HH BH etc.
and no , cleric and barb are easy to get help.
but is the game really unfair?b:angry
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    It maybe but you can just go pvp some more.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    They should make cleric and barb deal 0 damage so that DD have some important role in the party. Save for a few boss that get stronger over time, only cleric and barb are needed in party, the rest are just time saver.
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    It maybe but you can just go pvp some more.

    i don't understand what u want to say?
    i want to do HH for my HH mat
    FB and BH
    what u mean go pvp?
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    They should make cleric and barb deal 0 damage so that DD have some important role in the party. Save for a few boss that get stronger over time, only cleric and barb are needed in party, the rest are just time saver.

    they don't need to make cleric and barb deal 0 damage, but
    it's just fine even we are not in squad cause they can make nearly same damage as us. that's why. but we are totally unnecessary and useless in party.
    that's really unfair b:angry
    wtf the game is that much unbfairb:angry
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Find friends that accept you for you.

    b:chuckle
    Belligero
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Find friends that accept you for you.

    b:chuckle

    do u know what my friends said to me?
    sorry fri, we need cleric, next time i will invite u.
    kicked

    faction? "can someone help me with BH69?"
    silence
    b:cry
    and u saying me i need to find friends?
    noooooooo, Cleric and barb just no need friend to do these.b:angry
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    this game is **** unbalance b:angryb:angryb:angry
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Exactly, find people that will do it just to get it done, and that can do it right, not people that think they need more than one barb or cleric.

    Hence my post.

    ....

    b:chuckle
    Belligero
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well BH isnt really that important to do since you get it everyday its optional not required. If you wine BH or pay a share for the wine i dont see a problem inviting you along. In all honesty if you arent gonna wine it then you'd rather grind for the exp. HH (TT for us on servers other then LC since its just the way it is there) you just need to make friends and be fun they'll invite you along, also helps if you put up subs once and a while too.

    Edit - Well you wont always be invited either but party only really needs two clerics, barb, veno, that leaves two spots. If they dont invite you it means its full.
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Exactly, find people that will do it just to get it done, and that can do it right, not people that think they need more than one barb or cleric.

    Hence my post.

    ....

    b:chuckle

    no, FB69 or BH69 or say HH
    iwe were full squad with one cleric.
    and if one more cleric want to join by any chance,
    we get kicked.
    wtf
    plz don't tell me silly answer like "find ppl that will do it just .. bla bla bla"
    you don't know the feeling because you are barb b:angry
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I'm just messing with ya, man. But really, I don't know what to say.

    Go do RB's. We love to have Wizzie's there.
    Belligero
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i know how they feel, its not i don't understand.
    if i were the squad leader , i gonna kick these useless class and get more cleric or barb that can help squad more.
    but it did happen to me 3 4 times already.
    wth is all the GM, explain MEHHHHHHH b:angry
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well BH isnt really that important to do since you get it everyday its optional not required. If you wine BH or pay a share for the wine i dont see a problem inviting you along. In all honesty if you arent gonna wine it then you'd rather grind for the exp. HH (TT for us on servers other then LC since its just the way it is there) you just need to make friends and be fun they'll invite you along, also helps if you put up subs once and a while too.

    Edit - Well you wont always be invited either but party only really needs two clerics, barb, veno, that leaves two spots. If they dont invite you it means its full.

    u said i need to provide wine?
    as i mention above, barb and cleric don't need to provide wine for their BH.
    they got invite from random ppl.
    yes u don't know because you are cleric, u never kickout of squad right?b:laugh
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009

    Edit - Well you wont always be invited either but party only really needs two clerics, barb, veno, that leaves two spots. If they dont invite you it means its full.

    So., u accept the game is unbalance and unfair? b:laugh
    and BH is optional and don't need to do?
    u muse be kidding? everyone want to do BH it give us 150k Exp 30k Sp
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  • The_Mule - Sanctuary
    The_Mule - Sanctuary Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I feel your pain , I've been kicked from a squad to make way for a friend and I'm a cleric, lol.

    You just have to get on with it, most days I don't even do BH now.
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I feel your pain , I've been kicked from a squad to make way for a friend and I'm a cleric, lol.

    You just have to get on with it, most days I don't even do BH now.

    ok, that's cool, thanks you for understand me.
    but i gonna stick with this useless(unnecessary class) till end.
    i m already 77 i don't have time to reroll another char.
    if i have a chance i will roll a cleric or barb.
    so that i can join BH easily say "any EP or WB need BH69?, wined" b:cry
    and don't think i don't want to provide wine , it's i just can't effort.
    why?, i m student, no income at all, and my skills cost and amor cost make me broke, i sold 2 Migrade stone to do my CS today. b:cry
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Yes, find a group of friends who want to play with you because you're you, not because you're an archer.

    But in a random pickup group? For most bosses?

    You need a barbarian and a cleric in order to succeed.

    Every other class is optional. At least you do decent damage!
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    So., u accept the game is unbalance and unfair? b:laugh
    and BH is optional and don't need to do?
    u muse be kidding? everyone want to do BH it give us 150k Exp 30k Sp

    It is optional just like crazy stone and wq its not required you dont need BH for you to get a cutlivation lvl or anything. I dont know how its done on your server but all people in the BH either share costs for wine or if anything drops molds/three stars it goes to wine provider. Wow 150k if you dont wine it you'd rather go grind for the exp since you dont want to spend three hours in FB69 when you could grind and get well over 150k exp and more coin. Random party to do BH i dont do, unless a friend of mine invited me. I dont see why you need to do it since all the people who have played b4 you seemed to live fine without it being put in.

    I accept wiz dont have any roll in fb and HH other then a decent DD but if there is room i dont see why you'd be kicked. If there isnt room oh well same thing happens when you Rebirth and second BM wants to come but nope hes kicked for a wiz, archer, or barb. Im a wiz i dont have trouble finding party for bh fb79. Learn to relax and realize you arent gonna get what you want all the time no point in emo over nothing but pixels.
  • Randoms - Dreamweaver
    Randoms - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I rather get a good DD to every instance(I play celric too, he is 60+ atm).
    Sitting with Two barbs and killing Dimentora can be pain in the ****. My charm just ticked and ticked.
    I go with DD in squad as cleric anyday.
    I kill things b:victory
  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    To the OP:

    Hang in there dude. Grind for a few minutes -> buy a few teles -> WC that your a sexy wiz looking to join a rebirth gamma squad -> out level all the mage-hating naysayers -> win the game b:victory.
  • XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver
    XbladeXBm - Dreamweaver Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I would assume by your level you are getting BH in either 59 or pyro in 69 ?

    If that is the case, then tbh squad only needs 1 cleric,1 barb, 1 veno (even a veno is optional if wined ), the other 3 spots can be filled with any class.
    So imo if people kick you because they "need" another cleric, then you are better off out the squad since they must suck big time.

    As for TT one way to almost always get a squad is to supply the subs, should be doing this anyway if you want to go in for mats for yourself, cant expect others to sub a run for your mats.

    Apart from that not much that can be said, just try to find a good squad you can do BH with on a daily basis
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    thank you all for reply,
    now i feel better.
    ok, i will follow as all your suggestions and advices. b:thanks
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    idk....since when are wizards in TT squads?
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • Randoms - Dreamweaver
    Randoms - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    idk....since when are wizards in TT squads?

    Its better than 2 barbs two Cleric squad.:D
    Imagine how long it took for use to actually finsih all TT1-2 bosses.
    I kill things b:victory
  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    It's always nice to have wizzies and archers in a squad.
    Less time spent on bosses => less repair cost for barbs, less mana consumption for clerics.

    ...and more fun. b:pleased
  • Mantas - Sanctuary
    Mantas - Sanctuary Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    hmm...this game is not unfair.. It is a way unbalanced b:sad
    b:laughb:chuckleb:pleasedb:cuteb:victoryb:thanks
    No, i just LOVE these smiles
    and...
    yes, my english sucks but if u able to answer to my post than u understood what i wanted to say b:victory
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    A lvl 77 wiz not getting help in a Bh?

    **** I am a lvl 54 Veno and it takes a while to find a good squad to to the BH jst for BH39. Well it used to but now I just don't bother with it.

    I can make a ton more money doing OneManArmies than to do a FB39 run with a bunch of 50+ some 60's.

    I find now I just mix up my day's. One day I will quest the **** out of my time and the other I will just do full out OneManArmies to make coin.

    I am just loving all my purple glowing armour now. Only missing the boots which I can put on at lvl 56. Thank you OneManArmy. b:victory
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    barbs are a pain to lvl compared to other classes and they are expensive therefore we aren't as many as venos, so if we have more importance in a party it's perfectly normal
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  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Parties don't ever need two clerics...unless you are speaking of some of the very difficult bosses in instances later on Such as FL and Some of the TT's from 2-2 onwards I believe.

    If there is a barb...there is no need for a veno, although I like having veno's for their debuff, amp dmg, and their dmg on [?] bosses.

    Why is a wizzie complaining of parties? My two favorite DD to have along are Archer and Wiz.

    TBH my fav group for TT is

    1 Barb - 1 BM - 1 Cleric (Me) - 1 Wiz - 1-2 Archers, Id rather have a party of 5 then 6. This makes for very quick runs, if you aren't getting invited, its prolly nothing to do with class imbalances or the game not being "fair" but simply your lack of skill.
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Fastest TT group: 1 barb, 1 cleric, 4 venos. Highest dps, fastest kill, no chance of pulling aggro.

    In any case, RB gamma groups are always in need of wiz and archers. You're not wanted in TT, but always wanted in gammas, it balances out.