any1 can tell mi how to prevent myself from dying every once in a while??

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  • Terraa - Lost City
    Terraa - Lost City Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    kylarty wrote: »
    Noob question... What should this be?

    Tree of Protection is a genie skill. It's available at level 10, if you stat your genie for it specifically.
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i still having problem to prevent myself from dying and IH doesnt seem to work well for me now as the server seem to getting laggy or it is just me... can somebody tell me an alternate method for survival beside IH as it already max but doesnt work so work at my lvl...thx in advances

    You're still having trouble with a max IH? Are you trying to solo TT2-1 or something?

    We need a little more infor: what're you having trouble killing, how many of them are you killing at a time, and what're your resists for the type of attack said npcs are hitting for? And if they are magic mobs, are you trying to tank them? If they aren't magic mobs, are you hitting plume shell before they hit you?

    It's a wee bit tough to give you a legitimate answer, because you're leaving out a lot of details. Telling us using IH isn't working for you isn't enough, because there are numberless encounters in which IH isn't going to help enough, and in some of them at all.

    You did mention lag, which can be two different things (your connection between your client and PWI's server, or your game is choppy and your frames per second rate is really low); who's your service provider? What type of connection are you getting from them? Do you have problems with lag on any other Internet related programs, or just PWI? As for client lag, do you play PWI windowed? With all features enabled and all settings at maximum? Do you have a lot of programs running in the background? Just as importantly, are you running on an obsolete machine? Do you have enough memory to properly run PWI? Does your processor suck?

    I'd love to help, as I'm sure most of the board would, but you are leaving plenty of gaps. ;-)

    I did forget one question: how about a nice game of chess?
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  • Lessein - Sanctuary
    Lessein - Sanctuary Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ... ive had a read through of what some people have said.
    And if youre still dying, maybe the cleric class isnt for you? :P

    try being a barb or BM?
  • ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    the type of mob im killing is spinewraith non-elemental, the water elemental mob below the spine and another water mob in the sky alittle north from it (forget the names sry) the spinewraith dmg mi around 250 lighting atk and 300 for the dark skull which decrease ur channel...sometime 2 will come at mi and i try to fly down and some time 1 would appear out of nowhere and atk mi and of all the time lag had to came in and prevent mi from healing...the flying water mob i had not much of a problem save for the lag the water mob on the ground little trouble...and yes they are magic mob and i not TTing though planing to do so to get lvl 70 mat... my ISP not quite sure maybe starhub or sumthing...i jus got my new comp not long ago more space den my old wan and 4x more ram and i had no problem playing pwi til patch 166 when it started to lag but not so much til further later it like i cant even do anything but to wait for the lag to stop but by then i probably dead...im playin pwi in window and i hav 1 time enable almost all the feaures but i turn them off as for programs onli the internets as sometime while meditate or travellin i tend to watch some vid to kill time...does this help some?? i noe it abit long but hope it help and btw im not tanking but killing alone as im most of the time a loner except for some quest like BH or FB and im not sue how to play chess sry to disappoint youb:surrender
  • Catriona - Lost City
    Catriona - Lost City Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Your number one mistake: Ironheart level 1

    Ironheart is your best friend, solo player or not. I can take on at least 5 of the magic mobs in the swamps at once with ironheart. Mine of course, is level 10. I thought it was common knowledge that ironheart was a necessity for a cleric! O.o I mean really, level Ironheart to 10, you'll die less.

    And I'm sorry, not to be mean or anything... but I've seen that people have already given you this advice and if you don't take that advice then you're down-right stupid. (Okay, I totally failed at not sounding mean but that's not the point.) There are just some skills that you HAVE to have and I don't understand what your problem is with getting ironheart up to level 10. It IS your best heal with one of the shorter cast times. Don't deny facts when they stare you right in the face!

    But I can't help you on the technological end of things >_> I'm one of the least computer literate people you'll ever meet.
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  • ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i did take their advice and max iron heart already but i still die as the dmg they deal like stupify decrease my channelling rate and i hav a harder time healing as the iron heart no longer in effect and i try to recover but they keep on interupted mi and the highest is 6 time in a row... i might wan to take pand0ra advice and try to get hp charm as soon as i hav the money but im gettin 2 lvl 6(was planing to get lvl 7) hp shard first as wad the earlier advice said....
  • Eremedy - Dreamweaver
    Eremedy - Dreamweaver Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Easy - have an HP charm for backup (helped me a LOT).
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  • Catriona - Lost City
    Catriona - Lost City Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Okay, seriously, maybe you shouldn't play a cleric. I've never had an HP charm on my cleric and the only time I die so much in a row is when some level 80-90 loser decides to stalk to the swamps looking for cheap shots. :/ even with stupify it's not that hard.
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  • Opaline - Dreamweaver
    Opaline - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Get an hp charm.
    I never have to heal myself, solo or in squads.
  • LingBanamu - Sanctuary
    LingBanamu - Sanctuary Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Spinewraiths aren't the best mob for you to test your survivability against, especially since you haven't had your IH leveled until recently. I would suggest trying to find a different mob; Noxtouch Boneglows around 553 415 shouldn't be too difficult for you to kill. If you have difficulty with them, you probably have more problems than the lack of experience of surviving with IH.

    After that, If you want to, we can arrange a meeting in-game to work out any kinks that you might have. I'm on my cleric most of the time, so you can pm as LingBanamu. If you can't contact me in-game send me a pm on the forums and I'll try to reply as soon as possible.
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  • Terraa - Lost City
    Terraa - Lost City Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the type of mob im killing is spinewraith non-elemental, the water elemental mob below the spine and another water mob in the sky alittle north from it (forget the names sry) the spinewraith dmg mi around 250 lighting atk and 300 for the dark skull which decrease ur channel...sometime 2 will come at mi and i try to fly down and some time 1 would appear out of nowhere and atk mi and of all the time lag had to came in and prevent mi from healing...the flying water mob i had not much of a problem save for the lag the water mob on the ground little trouble...and yes they are magic mob and i not TTing though planing to do so to get lvl 70 mat... my ISP not quite sure maybe starhub or sumthing...i jus got my new comp not long ago more space den my old wan and 4x more ram and i had no problem playing pwi til patch 166 when it started to lag but not so much til further later it like i cant even do anything but to wait for the lag to stop but by then i probably dead...im playin pwi in window and i hav 1 time enable almost all the feaures but i turn them off as for programs onli the internets as sometime while meditate or travellin i tend to watch some vid to kill time...does this help some?? i noe it abit long but hope it help and btw im not tanking but killing alone as im most of the time a loner except for some quest like BH or FB and im not sue how to play chess sry to disappoint youb:surrender

    The chess quip was a joke, I was hoping someone who liked movies fro the 80s would get it ;-).

    If you're only running a browser, then you're probably fine (assuming you're not visiting a largely-graphic website, which can severely deteriorate your performance), especially if you're only watching videos in your downtime.

    I don't know your ISP, and I'm pretty lazy right now, so I'll go ahead and suggest that it's probably good enough, because you shouldn't need much more than 56k to play properly. If you're on dial-up, then you're not really on the Internet, ask anyone who used AOL.

    That leaves us with the npcs you are killing. Spinewraiths are the problem. They're irritating to kill at any level as a caster. The spell interrupts are deadly, and if you get more than two (especially at your level), you'd better be quick on cancelling flight mode or you're gonna be begging the nearest cleric for a trip to you. Their physical nuke is notorious for agitating me, because it seems to interrupt your casting 50% or more of the time. My suggestion is to find a new mob to grind (I was still doing Petalli Hexkisses until 70), because those things suck. The plan is to smite the easiest mob for the most xp, not attack the hardest mob with the easiest chance to get slain.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You shouldn't need an hp charm maybe a mp chamr but we aren't on pvp server.I would learn how to kite move round jump.You want a good view of the map zoom out and maybe over head and click on the map don't use your wasd keys in the direction you want to go.

    MP charms aren't needed either.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mad_Doc - Sanctuary
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You shouldn't need an hp charm maybe a mp chamr but we aren't on pvp server.I would learn how to kite move round jump.You want a good view of the map zoom out and maybe over head and click on the map don't use your wasd keys in the direction you want to go.

    MP charms aren't needed either.


    After you get blue bubble and get invited to do TT in 1-2+, you will see the need for hp and mp charms. MP charms are every important to a cleric after lvl 60 unless you like sitting alot...and solo grind. But since clerics end up partying, those higher lvl dungeons require you to have an MP and sometimes HP charm.
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    After you get blue bubble and get invited to do TT in 1-2+, you will see the need for hp and mp charms. MP charms are every important to a cleric after lvl 60 unless you like sitting alot...and solo grind. But since clerics end up partying, those higher lvl dungeons require you to have an MP and sometimes HP charm.

    That's true but really sad...
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    After you get blue bubble and get invited to do TT in 1-2+, you will see the need for hp and mp charms. MP charms are every important to a cleric after lvl 60 unless you like sitting alot...and solo grind. But since clerics end up partying, those higher lvl dungeons require you to have an MP and sometimes HP charm.

    Not really, unless your party cant take the boss down in decent amount of time.
    But if they can, pots and orbs is all you need and in the end it comes out cheaper then charms.
    Note that the event pots can be used in BB and they give 3k MP b:victory
    b:dirty
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    When kiting it is best to zoom out rotate camera about 45degee or looking down.You want to use your mouse instead of wasd click where you want to go.It is a little more harder I find to do this in water s key is better same with air.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Thistle_grey - Sanctuary
    Thistle_grey - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    The other day I was asked by a pair of archers, one lvl 39, the other lvl 48, to help them run thru FB39 is it? The one with three bosses. So I called up my normal partner, the famous Tad_Pole, a 60 lvl bar, and in we go. When we reached the first boss, being rather inexperienced in this FB, we started down the wrong side and Tad, in an effort to get the lay of the land, headed up the hill to take a look around. Most of you know there are four whatever the heck they are up there waiting. Tad comes racing down with all four on his tail. I start do the IH thing on him but too late, kitty cat dies, almost instantly followed by both archers.
    Good grief.
    So, I started the IH on me, three times, razor thing, three IH, razor thing...for a very long time. Finally the last one died much to the amazement of my three squad mates. I showed them just how tough a cleric can be with a maxed out IH and a little nerve.
    My build is nearly max MAG, STR as needed and like ten into VIT and a LOT of HP shards for a total HP of about 2100 . . . grr . . . b:laugh
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    After you get blue bubble and get invited to do TT in 1-2+, you will see the need for hp and mp charms. MP charms are every important to a cleric after lvl 60 unless you like sitting alot...and solo grind. But since clerics end up partying, those higher lvl dungeons require you to have an MP and sometimes HP charm.

    I shouldn't have to as it as the boss should be dead in matter of seconds.BB would be use sparingly.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mad_Doc - Sanctuary
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I shouldn't have to as it as the boss should be dead in matter of seconds.BB would be use sparingly.

    I have yet to see a TT boss die in a matter of seconds, unless you are rolling with lvl 9x-100 on your TT 1-1. The TTs I'm referring to are TT1-2 and 1-3 where soul banisher will do 2k dmg per aoe hit when you are inside BB near the end of his hp. And the bosses takes about 30-40 minutes to kill. Wait till you get to TT2-3...that takes a freaking long time b:cry
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have yet to see a TT boss die in a matter of seconds, unless you are rolling with lvl 9x-100 on your TT 1-1. The TTs I'm referring to are TT1-2 and 1-3 where soul banisher will do 2k dmg per aoe hit when you are inside BB near the end of his hp. And the bosses takes about 30-40 minutes to kill. Wait till you get to TT2-3...that takes a freaking long time b:cry
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  • pand0ra
    pand0ra Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I shouldn't have to as it as the boss should be dead in matter of seconds.BB would be use sparingly.


    Huh ? which TT are you talking about..

    Just a note a lvl 59 cleric must have extensive knowledge of using BB in a TT..
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i think shes talking about drum boy
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    looking at some of the recently posts gettin charms on a second though seem to be abit hard as they cost alot and i right now im huntin DQs item to npc them to buy 4 more lvl 6 hp shard to get 1 more lvl 7 and also planing to do tt to get lvl 70 mat so i can use it when i reach lvl 70...Thistle_grey your build mean u mus hav a lot of dmg my build is well i alittle off currently my stat are vit 37 str 40 mag 298 dex 5..(all except dex hav extra points from my armor especially magic and i add alot of magic..bb i use like during BH the most tt 1-1 durin the lower lvl and im doin 1-2 soon so this will be my first time hope i can get a gasp on the area and noe when to use itb:surrender...
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mad_Doc - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have yet to see a TT boss die in a matter of seconds, unless you are rolling with lvl 9x-100 on your TT 1-1. The TTs I'm referring to are TT1-2 and 1-3 where soul banisher will do 2k dmg per aoe hit when you are inside BB near the end of his hp. And the bosses takes about 30-40 minutes to kill. Wait till you get to TT2-3...that takes a freaking long time b:cry

    I am yet to see a boss last more then 20min in TT1-1 to 1-3 xD
    b:dirty
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Nelae why did u stop lvling? lol i remember i was like 25 and u were 7x
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nelae why did u stop lvling? lol i remember i was like 25 and u were 7x

    I blame Meh genies for eating more then 2mil exp and ppl who pull me in TT and bh every time i log in game, specially i blame my self cause i love to suicide. Like yesterday with my guild trying to kill Harpy Wraith (you can guess what happened, and no i dont use angels)

    And thats why >.<
    b:dirty
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I blame Meh genies for eating more then 2mil exp and ppl who pull me in TT and bh every time i log in game, specially i blame my self cause i love to suicide. Like yesterday with my guild trying to kill Harpy Wraith (you can guess what happened, and no i dont use angels)

    And thats why >.<

    b:chucklei can tell u that u didnt lvl a long time lol
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  • rst777
    rst777 Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    im surprised that people are doing so much healing of themselves. plume, IB, cyclone...repeat? total waste of mp and is probably doing more harm than good.
    i used to think that cyclone was good because of the slow effect but i didnt help that much unless you kite. (notable exception are mobs with def up) i stoped using kiting around lvl 14 and went straight plume shot only. it does better damage so cyclone becomes useless once the mob is near, and kiting makes fights take too long, thus slowing the grind.
    yep, plume shot... thats it. plume... repeat. enemy is dead in 4-5 shots tops. meaning that the enemy gets to hit me maybe 3 times, more often only 2. i can survive that even though i screwed up my stats (was originally going LA, so i have wasted dex points). i can then either pot or heal post-fight. now, if i happen to be fighting mobs that are just that tough then i would go plume, plume, IB, then just plume, plume plume. The enemy never gets to me before the second plume goes off so why heal non-damage? plus this allows the IB to last post-fight and undo any last hit by the mob.
    when fighting physical mobs, I generally go 5 fights and only use about 3/5 of my mp. at that point i pot and meditate for a few seconds and im right as rain. magic mobs i can usually go 7-8 fights before stopping.
    i use no mp charms but i do have an hp charm. I bought the cheapest one (100,000 hp) and have only used about 10% in over a week. how on earth people go through them every day i just dont understand.
  • ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i think i might noe why i kept on dying alot..what i need is not hp shard but i higher mag def as even if i hav a high hp the dmg i receive won't cover much...tried to kill the primeval towerling for quest and i died a few times dmg mi 300 to 400 and didnt hav time to heal as another pop out of no whr and IH was not able to heal me...i probally need a high mag def and need to lvl my wellspring surge...
  • Xenaaah - Heavens Tear
    Xenaaah - Heavens Tear Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary wrote: »
    every time i train, hunting, questing or fb i tend to die once in a while and tend to die atleast about 5 time in a day...some of you may say spam IH but my IH is at lvl 1 so is there another way to prevent myself from dying??? im using arcane armor with def shard in it so that i receive lesser dmg but as the higher i go that doesnt seem the case as the dmg i receive from the monster is around 300 to 500 sumwhr around there...do i hav to put a better def shard or sumthing??...be back in about 6hrs to check as im in school atm...So Thank in Advanceb:pleased

    Pots made with the apothecary skills would help. Make sure all your gear has slots and things added like more Def and HP.
  • ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary
    ValkyrieLind - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    the onli pots i made are regens so i can regen more mp when i medi my gear onli my skirt has 2 lvl 7 hp shard gettin 1 more lvl 6 to make 1 lvl 7 soon...the rest i try to get a better armor and get a lvl 5 shard as i dun think i can afford higher lvl as durin the last couple of days stressing myself to earn some money to get lvl 7 shard(buyin lvl 5 and 6 to make lvl 7) and in the process of dying from the mob...will askin my faction ldr to help mi make a TT top arcane when we do TT...
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