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You know Two Boxing or Multiclienting really isn't that different. If you got a setup at home like I do with a multi-screen/multi-desktop display you can easily set 2 or more screens to be different individual clients so you really are not missing anything with one session covering another and having to flip between them.
Though you have to have a pretty good computer to do this, in either case a two boxing player is generally easier to beat. I've gone against two boxing players before the general trick is go after the healer, most two boxing setups is a healer and tank set. If you go after the healer you generally force the two boxer to play 1 character leaving the tank unattended. If you got someone else that goes for the tank it's guarenteed that 1 of the two boxer's characters will die.
In larger scale battle were I notice a someone that seem to be two boxing often the healer throws in the cure that saves the warrior generally at the last minute. A well timed stun or interruption to that process always guarentees that both characters will die. Done it many a times in PvP Battlegrounds on WoW, and other PvP fights.
So really Two Boxing only benefits the player because he doesn't have to find a second person to help him farm were much of the time other players preffer to do it solo. Which kind of trails to another thing, just about everytime I farm solo I make less then working with a group in an area were you know vendor trash drops that other players would want. So you are generally better of regardless by farming with a group then trying to make money solo.0 -
hmmm, looking at this post I would think PW could do something Galaxy Online has done, namely they have made it so more than one instance of the client can be used but no more than 2 clients can be run on the same server at the same time. Basically if the client has the SAME IP the server counts the instances of the client using that IP and if more than 2 log in within a 24 hour period, bam, down to one client only for a period of time or banned if it happens too many times. They've also made it so you can't trade units and such between clients on very similar IPs but that might be a bit excessive for this game to do that. My point is that you could allow multiple instances but control how many instances so that people aren't dumb and do things like use a **** to play multiple instances of the game, and thus be likely to get banned.0
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allarian210 wrote: »hmmm, looking at this post I would think PW could do something Galaxy Online has done, namely they have made it so more than one instance of the client can be used but no more than 2 clients can be run on the same server at the same time. Basically if the client has the SAME IP the server counts the instances of the client using that IP and if more than 2 log in within a 24 hour period, bam, down to one client only for a period of time or banned if it happens too many times. They've also made it so you can't trade units and such between clients on very similar IPs but that might be a bit excessive for this game to do that. My point is that you could allow multiple instances but control how many instances so that people aren't dumb and do things like use a **** to play multiple instances of the game, and thus be likely to get banned.
My entire family plays, if this was implemented we would get in trouble for all three of us being online at once...b:sad[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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They have made mention of it several times. You can not run more than 1 client on more than 1 computer.DoubleBoxing is and should remain legal. Double boxing = using more than one computer to play at the same time from the same IP. If they forbid it, then players playing from schools, or couple playing from the same house could not play, they all use the same IP from a router.
Multiclienting is opening more than one instance of the game with one computer. That is theorically forbidden on the MY-EN server. There was no words about this here yet. And the ToS don't make mention of it so far.
Ok seriously, Gm's are all food related? What gives? Do they not let you eat at work? We've got Orinj,salt,kahunaburger,spoons? b:chuckle If I was Xar I'd be afriad, oh yes... very afraid.salt_1233616228 wrote: »I feel so alone...
Aadi - Lost City wrote: »My entire family plays, if this was implemented we would get in trouble for all three of us being online at once...b:sad
We have 4 computers all in the same room so we can communicate. Ah I'm getting attacked, heal plz. We all ran out of buffs buff pls. This is one freaking huge monster.. don't even try it we need more help.
It makes it much easier! Than having to type stuff. But 4 computers, 4 different clients, 4 different accounts, 1 ip. That is totally allowed. I doubt I'd pay for 4 different IP's a month so that we could all play, actually I know I can't. It would be in their best interest to always allow this type of play... otherwise cash flow would be suspended quite a lot.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
tell me what about this :
i play PW with my sister , each with a different PC (in same house & same router) but we both use each others profile.
We are the ONLY 2 that got logins of each other.
i played sometimes with my sister's profile (veno with herc lvl 78) to grind on mobs to get easy money.
then after got good money i mailed the money to my profile (cleric lvl 71) to got more money to buy faster wings etc , and continue playing with my profile.
sudenly after several days , my sister played with her profile (cleric lvl70) and did a FB run in a squad , then sudenly a server message apeared on screen :
" YOU HAVE BEEN BOOTED "
i was playing with my profile at this moment.
it cleary means that somebody else logged in into her acount but who ??
She tryed to login again and she wasn't able to & forum login told that she was banned.
we posted here on forum ending with ticket posts.
they answered : You have been banned for hacking somebody else profile.
but we did nothing wrong. we both where playing with our profiles.
i sended a ticket back and explained everything in good details what happened & asked to do a IP check to look if somebody else logged in into her acount and did hacking stuff and if possible BAN IP that not match with our IP.
i know they can do this cause every game servers have SERVER LOGS.
honestly we are to stupid to **** and why would we ?
after sending this ticket they never sended back.
it's like they igniore us.
Result :
She lost 1 acount with many different chars in high raised lvl's and we didnt do anything. just played.
Honestly since this hapened i dont like PW so much more like before.
why ? cause we puted almost 1 year in this profile to raise high chars in lvl's & putted a lot of REAL money in this game to lose it for something we not did.
and we lost a lot of boutique stuff to.
MY Question is :
can a GM post a ticket for us with this description of what happened?
maybe they will act faster.
Sorry for the long post but i want some justice for that.
acount information from my sister : <edited> (banned profile that we want back)
chars names : thibootje - Booty - uglyclerics - ...
i realy hope this time after severals weeks waiting we finaly can have a good answer back.
thx for the help.0 -
Forums are not the place to deal with this stuff Da Chica, your post is actually in violation of ToS b:bye0
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violation ok , but don't we have some rights ?
trust me if that would happen to you , you will be even up set lik me & my sis or even worser upset.
im just asking for some justice cause what hapened ir realy unfair and this is 1 thing that break ur community trust me.
if a GM can post a ticket i would much apreciate this.0 -
You can't share your account with anyone. By your own admission you violated rules you had agreed to follow. PW has rights too.0
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Don't force me to close this as well - take my advice from the other thread, Chica.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Not to mention, even without the admission of guilt; it would be a tough prove.
My mom has 2 computers, and sometimes signs into one and forgets she's signed in, and signs in on the other. Which then logs her off the one she was signed in on at first. (she's 51 and forgetful) anyways... it would be tough for them to prove if you were on the same ip address in the same home that it wasn't the same person logging in.
Now.. since you were sent something that says you ****, and that is what got you banned. I would be inclined to say it was proven that you **** an account that was in no way related to your isp all together. Might check with your sister, but someone apparently was using someone elses account all together.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
alright. im not sure if this thread is dead or not but i have a serious question to the GMs. alright so i have been told recently that u can open 2 clients one 1 computer, now i know its not aloud but what if i have a low lvl char on one file and a high lvl char on another and noones able or willing to help with a quest... can i open 2 clients to help "myslef" with a quest? i wanted to try it but i didnt want to get banned so i figured i would ask first b:victory0
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MajinTakai - Heavens Tear wrote: »alright. im not sure if this thread is dead or not but i have a serious question to the GMs. alright so i have been told recently that u can open 2 clients one 1 computer, now i know its not aloud but what if i have a low lvl char on one file and a high lvl char on another and noones able or willing to help with a quest... can i open 2 clients to help "myslef" with a quest? i wanted to try it but i didnt want to get banned so i figured i would ask first b:victory
you cannot do that. you will get ban hamstered.
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that be MultiClienting
you need to have 1 client running on 1 computer. (Multiboxing be having multiple computers and running 1 client on each)
Necro necro necro~darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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ok this thread has officially been necroed twice
failits impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
just try to be a good person
english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts0 -
thanks but id like to know from a GM and if what ur saying is true...why the hell not? noone will help so why cant i just help my self?0
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http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=552241&highlight=multiclienting gm said no. its illegal, take peoples words for it, not everyones an idiot here. now someone lock this stupid thread.0
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Do people go out of their way to look for threads to necro? This thread started back in 2008 b:shocked.
As for getting help from your higher lvl character, your out of luck. If no one is willing to help other than you higher lvl, well the only thing you can do is think about how much people suck, or wonder why the GMs dont allow a multiclient feature. An alternative would be to buy another comp cheap and log on with a second comp.0 -
seriously me would multiclient with 5 of meself if it were allowed...(it be pretty easy to do)
but since it be against the actual rules as stated by a GM me don't.
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although if me could it would make finding botters a whole lot easier.
xDdarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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No Offence but, if someone tries to find an answer to a question already asked before, he is advised "use the effin search button" or "use the search function noob".
If the said person does so and posts... Guess what happens...
"NECRO!!!"
b:thanks
EDIT : How can you figure out that whether Iam using multiclients on a single P.C or Using multiple machines on the same network? b:shutupAurian: Loyal? Power-hoes are loyal to nobody0 -
Belief - Harshlands wrote: »No Offence but, if someone tries to find an answer to a question already asked before, he is advised "use the effin search button" or "use the search function noob".
If the said person does so and posts... Guess what happens...
"NECRO!!!"
b:thanks
fail....
usually threads be abandoned as the question be already answered....
._.' which be why searching in the first place actually works. (>.<)'
if you has another question regarding teh aforementioned thread then you start a new thread.
b:surrenderdarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »fail....
usually threads be abandoned as the question be already answered....
._.' which be why searching in the first place actually works. (>.<)'
if you has another question regarding teh aforementioned thread then you start a new thread.
b:surrender
No good Sir, what if we have different question to a particular topic.
Shall we start a new topic altogether or post in same?
b:surrender
P.S- Dint understand the "fail" part. b:sadAurian: Loyal? Power-hoes are loyal to nobody0 -
Belief - Harshlands wrote: »No good Sir, what if we have different question to a particular topic.
Shall we start a new topic altogether or post in same?
b:surrender
P.S- Dint understand the "fail" part. b:sad
if one has a different question to a particular topic then they can start a new thread.
b:thanks
as it be a new topic. (me recommend they link to the old thread just to clarify stuff though)
and teh fail was people who be advised to: ""use the effin search button" or "use the search function noob".
If the said person does so and posts... Guess what happens..."
hasn't learned proper forum etiquette in the first place.
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(GMs and mods has come about in necroed threads with valid questions and closed them since they would rather you open a new thread instead of confoosing someone and necroing threads)darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »if one has a different question to a particular topic then they can start a new thread.
b:thanks
as it be a new topic. (me recommend they link to the old thread just to clarify stuff though)
and teh fail was people who be advised to: ""use the effin search button" or "use the search function noob".
If the said person does so and posts... Guess what happens..."
hasn't learned proper forum etiquette in the first place.
._.'
(GMs and mods has come about in necroed threads with valid questions and closed them since they would rather you open a new thread instead of confoosing someone and necroing threads)
Wokay...b:victory
But what about the question I asked before.. Is it really possible to detect multiclienting?b:surrenderAurian: Loyal? Power-hoes are loyal to nobody0 -
Belief - Harshlands wrote: »Wokay...b:victory
But what about the question I asked before.. Is it really possible to detect multiclienting?b:surrender
yesh.
there be ways.
b:avoid
to detect multiclienting
b:avoiddarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »yesh.
there be ways.
b:avoid
to detect multiclienting
b:avoid
Mayhaps b:chuckle b:chuckleAurian: Loyal? Power-hoes are loyal to nobody0
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