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  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Er... While I can understand the sentiment of merging threads to reduce clutter, not sure that it was entirely appropriate here.

    One thread was about the Platinum Charms' ingame use and economic impacts.

    The other thread was entirely about the use of the manji/swastika in the charm's icon.
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  • Oldbear - Sanctuary
    Oldbear - Sanctuary Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    No one asked for a history lesson

    Tip: get the opinion of europeans (seeing as though this is an international version of the game) before releasing items with potentially offensive images

    Yea, still doesn't justify the issue.

    that's a bunch of narrow-minded BS
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Tip: Realize..(some **** I didn't read)

    Not replying to someone that can't be bothered spelling realise correctly
    Oldbear - Sanctuary wrote: »
    that's a bunch of narrow-minded BS

    PVE SERVER CAREBEAR NOOB ROFLOFLRFLO b:angryb:surrenderb:dirty
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    PVE CAREBEAR NOOB ROFLOFLRFLO b:angryb:surrenderb:dirty

    Carebear... Might explain why we aren't so quick to rage over something so trivial. Maybe you should try being one?

    Edit: And it's spelled "realize". Not realise. Use a spell checker, you wanna be grammer....

    Oh wow... I just realized that... We fling around that word so casually... Yet some people take offense to a symbol... Excuse me while I wipe away the tears from laughing so hard.
  • Allnighte - Lost City
    Allnighte - Lost City Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I can't believe the GMs of PWI is letting this happen. Do you have any idea how many lives were lost at the hands of soldiers wearing that symbol on their clothing? Do you have any idea about the pain and suffering of REAL HUMAN BEINGS that happened not even a lifetime ago? Fair, interesting name, it seems that you are anything but. You almost entirely fit the stereotype of French and most European people. That stereotype being an anti-Semit or as you probably refer to it, anti-Zionism or anti-Israeli. Would you describe yourself as a Holochaust denier as well. Try these facts instead of your fiction.
    There is no such thing as a Palestinian. Palestinian seized to exist in 1948 when the British mandate of Palestine came to an end resulting in the creation of Israel for the Jewish People and Trans-Jordan for the former Palestinian Arabs. Any person Arab or Jew living within the mandate were Palestinians. Another fact is that the former Palestinian Arabs had a state upon the end of the mandate, Trans-Jordan which at that time encompassed more land than modern day Israel. Even present day Jordan encompasses more land than Israel. They along with the other Arab states upon the founding of Israel refused to recognize Israel's right to exist then and the majority do not recognize it now. The Arab League declared war on the new state, and Egypt, Trans-Jordan (now Jordan), Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq mobilized their armies and attacked. Against all odds and with G-d's help the outnumbered, outgunned, Israel's triumphed. In the wake of the armistice portions of territory that the UN plan had allocated to the former Palestinian Arabs came under Egyptian and Jordanian control and military occupation (Egypt took over Gaza Strip, and Jordan gained control of the West Bank). Jerusalem was divided between Israel and Jordan. After 1950 with the Israel passage of The Right of Return many Jews were expelled from Arab lands forcibly or other wise to immigrate to Israel. By the end of 1951 300,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands such as Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Iraq had immigrated to Israel.
    The next major conflict was in 1967 when In May 1967 Nasser called for the removal of UN forces from the Suez Canal region. He also organized a military alliance with Syria, Jordan, and Iraq and moved Egyptian troops and equipment into the Sinai Peninsula. In addition, Nasser closed the Strait of Tiran to Israeli shipping. After efforts at mediation by the UN and the Western powers failed, Israel launched a preemptive military strike against Egypt in early June. Jordan, Syria, and Iraq joined the fighting against Israel. The Egyptian air force was destroyed on the ground within hours of the start of the , and Israeli forces quickly seized the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula. Israel also took East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan and the Golan Heights from Syria.
    These lands became know as occupied when Israel conquered them in the course of battle where as when Egypt and Jordan occupied and took these lands away from the former Palestinian Arabs these lands became part of the occupiers country. Throughout history wars have been fought for what ever reason and lands have been conquered, traditionally the country that wins the war gets to keep the land. For example the United States never gave conquered Native American lands back to the Native Americans so they could form separate and independent nations as they once had been. The entire Middle East peace process is a fallacy. Over two million Arabs live peacefully in Israel as Israel citizens with all the rights that that entails. Many such as the Bedouin proudly serve their country in the Israeli Defense Forces. As Golda Meir once said
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Allnighte - Lost City wrote: »
    I can't believe the GMs of PWI is letting this happen. Do you have any idea how many lives were lost at the hands of soldiers wearing that symbol on their clothing? Do you have any idea about the pain and suffering of REAL HUMAN BEINGS that happened not even a lifetime ago? Fair, interesting name, it seems that you are anything but. You almost entirely fit the stereotype of French and most European people. That stereotype being an anti-Semit or as you probably refer to it, anti-Zionism or anti-Israeli. Would you describe yourself as a Holochaust denier as well. Try these facts instead of your fiction.
    There is no such thing as a Palestinian. Palestinian seized to exist in 1948 when the British mandate of Palestine came to an end resulting in the creation of Israel for the Jewish People and Trans-Jordan for the former Palestinian Arabs. Any person Arab or Jew living within the mandate were Palestinians. Another fact is that the former Palestinian Arabs had a state upon the end of the mandate, Trans-Jordan which at that time encompassed more land than modern day Israel. Even present day Jordan encompasses more land than Israel. They along with the other Arab states upon the founding of Israel refused to recognize Israel's right to exist then and the majority do not recognize it now. The Arab League declared war on the new state, and Egypt, Trans-Jordan (now Jordan), Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq mobilized their armies and attacked. Against all odds and with G-d's help the outnumbered, outgunned, Israel's triumphed. In the wake of the armistice portions of territory that the UN plan had allocated to the former Palestinian Arabs came under Egyptian and Jordanian control and military occupation (Egypt took over Gaza Strip, and Jordan gained control of the West Bank). Jerusalem was divided between Israel and Jordan. After 1950 with the Israel passage of The Right of Return many Jews were expelled from Arab lands forcibly or other wise to immigrate to Israel. By the end of 1951 300,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands such as Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Iraq had immigrated to Israel.
    The next major conflict was in 1967 when In May 1967 Nasser called for the removal of UN forces from the Suez Canal region. He also organized a military alliance with Syria, Jordan, and Iraq and moved Egyptian troops and equipment into the Sinai Peninsula. In addition, Nasser closed the Strait of Tiran to Israeli shipping. After efforts at mediation by the UN and the Western powers failed, Israel launched a preemptive military strike against Egypt in early June. Jordan, Syria, and Iraq joined the fighting against Israel. The Egyptian air force was destroyed on the ground within hours of the start of the , and Israeli forces quickly seized the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula. Israel also took East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan and the Golan Heights from Syria.
    These lands became know as occupied when Israel conquered them in the course of battle where as when Egypt and Jordan occupied and took these lands away from the former Palestinian Arabs these lands became part of the occupiers country. Throughout history wars have been fought for what ever reason and lands have been conquered, traditionally the country that wins the war gets to keep the land. For example the United States never gave conquered Native American lands back to the Native Americans so they could form separate and independent nations as they once had been. The entire Middle East peace process is a fallacy. Over two million Arabs live peacefully in Israel as Israel citizens with all the rights that that entails. Many such as the Bedouin proudly serve their country in the Israeli Defense Forces. As Golda Meir once said

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    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Some idiot thinking this is raging

    Go pick flowers r[]fl n00b
  • Oldbear - Sanctuary
    Oldbear - Sanctuary Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    Not replying to someone that can't be bothered spelling realise correctly

    PVE SERVER CAREBEAR NOOB ROFLOFLRFLO b:angryb:surrenderb:dirty

    Just curious ,which part of the Europe are you supposed to be from?
  • Allnighte - Lost City
    Allnighte - Lost City Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I got cut off, let me continue:
    As Golda Meir once said “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children as much as they hate the Jews.” Land for peace does not work because firstly the former Palestinian Arabs had there own country and were not contented with having the larger part of the whole of the mandate and secondly because almost every Arab state in the region has more land than Israel. What you should be more concerned with is why when the West Bank and Gaza Strip were under Israeli control were those Arabs in those lands as well as Arabs in the rest of Israel on a whole more prosperous, better educated, and successful over all than those same lands under the control of the terrorist Yaser Araffat or any other Arab nation in the region. You can not and should not make peace with people who do not recognize your right to exist.
    Israel was rebuilt in 1948 on the lands that it had had long before the Arabs lived in that land of Israel. The Zionist movement is a reaction to the 2000 years of hatred and murder that the Jew's had to incur after the Dispora. The Zionist movement advocates a Jewish State in accordance with the Bible (Old Testament) in the Promised Land.
    As for peace, in 1948 it was not the Zionist Jew's who attacked there Arab neighbors because they could not deal with living next to Arabs, It was the surrounding Arab states who attacked Israel. Since then, every attack on Israel has resulted in the Arabs loosing lands and they have been sore losers about it. I now have a question for you. When Trans-Jordan was occupying the West Bank and Egypt the Gaza strip why were the Arabs then not complaining when their brothers had taken their lands. When they used those lands as starting point for terrorism and future attacks prior to and during the 1967 Israel took the lands away from them. No you hear occupation and words like that thrown around the truth is that the Arabs who formally lived in the British Mandate of Palestine have been a disgrace to their own people and have been expelled from their real home land Trans-Jordan (modern day Jordan) because of their terrorist activities.
    The only Answer for peace is that there will be peace when the Arabs love their children as much as they hate the Jewish People. That's basically what it is hatred. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Jordan are individually much larger than Israel that's why I can not imagine why the Arabs complain about lands.
    The GMs cannot let this antisemetism stand.
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Oldbear - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just curious ,which part of the Europe are you supposed to be from?

    Germany ROFL b:shocked
  • Magicarp - Lost City
    Magicarp - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Allnighte - Lost City wrote: »
    Some godly post

    I love you...
  • Oldbear - Sanctuary
    Oldbear - Sanctuary Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    Germany ROFL b:shocked

    Then let me express my sympathy to the rest of German nation for having to put up with him every day. I'm truly sorry for you! But don't worry- rest of Europe knows you are not all like him. Just hang in there.
  • Hi_Im_A_Barb - Lost City
    Hi_Im_A_Barb - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Oldbear - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then let me express my sympathy to the rest of German nation for having to put up with him every day. I'm truly sorry for you! But don't worry- rest of Europe knows you are not all like him.

    So easy to troll kekekekekekeke n00b b:angry
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Everyone new to the game: Same thing happened with gold charms. They didn't exist for a while, then came a weekend sale. There might have been 2 weekend sales before becoming a permanent items, but these will likely be a permanent fixture just like the gold ones did.
    Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura

    Get a High lvl Fist warrior use it, Restat to axes. GG - complexx

    :NOTE: These signatures are to forever immortalize, how stupid people can be.
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Allnighte - Lost City wrote: »
    I can't believe the GMs of PWI is letting this happen.
    I know, huh? Now my Gold charms look so cheap and lame compared to them. It's like I've got a bunch of Silver Charms instead. Bah!
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  • Mistoledva - Dreamweaver
    Mistoledva - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know, huh? Now my Gold charms look so cheap and lame compared to them. It's like I've got a bunch of Silver Charms instead. Bah!

    LoL, I love it when people come in and QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ about something and dont read past the 2nd post. Its rather pathetic,

    Its not the swastika from the **** "Regime" its the one used in Asian/Buddha Cultures to mean eternity, i dont care if ur from germany, dont mean ur Hitler, stop Q_Qing if ur not gonna read what the symbol means FFS
  • Venomeow - Sanctuary
    Venomeow - Sanctuary Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Everyone new to the game: Same thing happened with gold charms. They didn't exist for a while, then came a weekend sale. There might have been 2 weekend sales before becoming a permanent items, but these will likely be a permanent fixture just like the gold ones did.

    Apparently not for now:
    This weekend only our wonderful Platinum Charms will be in the Boutique!
    This sale will run from Friday at 12:00am until Sunday at 11:50pm PST!
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    So, can they be unequipped? Anyone get one yet and try it? As someone said earlier, they're missing text saying bound and can't unequip.
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Right, but as I said there will be a weekend sale, then they will be gone. Next another weekend sale or 2, each time being removed again. Finally they will make a permanent appearance.

    Course, there is also the random chance of getting a plat charm through many different sources when opening certain packs as well. All told, they will continue to be seen from here on. Maybe not a large amount with the weekend only sales, but they will be taking over same as gold charms did when they ended up as perma-boutique items.

    And anyone who doesn't like em, just don't buy em. The higher charms are only more cost effective, they do the same role either way. And you won't see anyone else's charm unless you look at player info. Mafi Mushkilla
    Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura

    Get a High lvl Fist warrior use it, Restat to axes. GG - complexx

    :NOTE: These signatures are to forever immortalize, how stupid people can be.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I usually don't waste my Gold Charms that fast, unless I'm on my barb. So meh.
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  • Venomeow - Sanctuary
    Venomeow - Sanctuary Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Edit: I failed here. ^_^
  • Terodorn - Heavens Tear
    Terodorn - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    every hp charm has 10s cooldown
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Terodorn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    every hp charm has 10s cooldown

    Are you sure?

    My small one I had like 50K revived fairly fast.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • AlexanderEMT - Dreamweaver
    AlexanderEMT - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    LET'S ALL QQ, WHINE, ****, AND MOAN ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE FREE PLAYERS WHO DON'T BUY ZHEN AND WANT THE GOLD PRICE TO DROP!


    Grow up you frelling children, if you don't like the symbol, STFU and go away, you won't be missed b:bye

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    b:bye
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    Are you sure?

    My small one I had like 50K revived fairly fast.

    Yes. 10s cool downs on hp charms, 5s cool downs on mana charms.
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Venomeow - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The 10 second cooldown is also extremely unattractive. I feel like I would be dead before it ticked again. b:sad

    WHAT??? Now you want 1s cooldown instead???
    Barb is already hard to kill with 10sec cooldown. Less cooldown time just make things too overpowered.
    10sec is really nothing, you will find it quite short. If you are taking too much damage: RUN. That's what the S button is for. Even fast mobs are not going to catch you in 10sec. Range mobs can catch melee player, but if you are melee then you have a lot of disable to use instead.
    Sheesh...
  • Venomeow - Sanctuary
    Venomeow - Sanctuary Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    b:shocked Er, ignore my previous post. Had a brainfreeze there -__-'
  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    AlexanderEMT - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    LET'S ALL QQ, WHINE, ****, AND MOAN ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE FREE PLAYERS WHO DON'T BUY ZHEN AND WANT THE GOLD PRICE TO DROP!


    Grow up you frelling children, if you don't like the symbol, STFU and go away, you won't be missed b:bye

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    Speak for yourself, i'm not a free player that doesnt buy zhen, so i dont give a sh*t about the gold price.

    I'm just asking something about something that bothered me. If you dont like that just STFU and go away.
  • AlexanderEMT - Dreamweaver
    AlexanderEMT - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    cenminator1 wrote: »
    Speak for yourself, i'm not a free player that doesnt buy zhen, so i dont give a sh*t about the gold price.

    I'm just asking something about something that bothered me. If you dont like that just STFU and go away.

    I was answering both sides of this thread, lurn2comprehend b:cute

    btw- don't edit my posts when you quote them
    b:bye
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    cenminator1 wrote: »
    Speak for yourself, i'm not a free player that doesnt buy zhen, so i dont give a sh*t about the gold price.

    I'm just asking something about something that bothered me. If you dont like that just STFU and go away.

    You are complaining about something even though you are being ignorant of the true meaning of the symbol.

    What you actually are doing is being very offensive to many cultures with your uneducated comment.

    Before stating your opinion on the matter of the symbol you should have thought a bit about its true meaning and done research.

    It's sad that people have to focus on the worst of things instead of looking at it original and only meaning. Such pety complaining from so many.

    Atleast go back to complaining about the GOLD prices. That actually has something to do with PERFECT WORLD.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    The ignorant and vitriolic attacks against this beautiful, ancient and multicultural symbol are more akin to the **** attitude than the symbol is itself.
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