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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    The charms are available for ONLY THIS WEEKEND b:bye
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  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    euh...

    the "croix game" (**** cross) is the other way around

    in that sense its a boudhist symbol of peace.

    leave and lern
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

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  • Myralis - Sanctuary
    Myralis - Sanctuary Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Yes that was my first thought too...
    But that one actually is asian symbol of luck I think...
    Still freaking misleading >.<
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  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    20090814140700.jpg

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    I know the swastika is a buddhist symbol, also used in roman and greek floor mosaics and by norwegian vikings. But probably most well known for being used by the ****'s and i dont want my game to remember me of people like that.

    And yes, i know it s a mirrored image of a swastika but that doesnt decrease the recognizability of it.

    Can any GM please clear up what the reason was to use this symbol in the international version of the game?
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    a complete wiki on it :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

    my bad.. it s not for peace.. but for eternity ;)
    wich goes well with HP charm ;)
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

    Rules= Know your enemy (players and NPCs) gives you more chances to survive.
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    inbeforeclosed for spam
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  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    -Sighs- One thread okay but three of them? -.- Merged them.
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    lolwut they merged it
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  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Excuses for tripleposting.. but apparently Preview button and 'back' dont combine. Nonetheless i still want to know why they used this, with western 20th century history in mind.
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    It's been 64 years since the end of World War II. You learn about this in history class, as a part of the growth of society. You also learn about the Romans, who fed Christians to Lions. Does that mean I should boycott the Helmets in this game, which remind me of the ones Romans used to wear? You have spears, which people used to stick in the ground to mount their opponent's heads on, as a warning. Should I boycott any Poleblade BM? It's a game. There are things in here that have some meaning to everyone. For instance, my Veno may make some people think of the Playboy Bunnies. Does that mean that I condone such acts as are found in the magazines? I don't think so. Just because a symbol has one meaning to you because of ****, and the Holocaust doesn't mean it's not an entirely different, and important symbol to another group. You don't have to hate it. Haven't we advanced past the fear and loathing of that dead regime? We're not going to repeat those mistakes, now let the past dwell in the past, and enjoy these shiny new charms we get to play with.
  • Kitsuneh - Lost City
    Kitsuneh - Lost City Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

    ^^For Op.
    Finland might be a notable exception amongst the modern Western countries regarding the public attitude towards swastikas in general.

    Didint know that.. And i am from Finlandb:sweat

    EDIT: damn you Reivi. You were faster.
  • david12345
    david12345 Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Looks like a PR **** up.

    Well the 卐 charms are only here for the weekend, I'm sure you can bear it for a few days.

    Also remember this is a Chinese company, who really don't care about anything thats not profit related. Yeah I bet they didn't think twice before the design was greenlighted.
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Don't be haters all they did was pk b:laugh b:laugh
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I can't believe what people will cry over about.

    It's a chinese symbol for dear sakes!!!!

    With you complaining about it you are criticizing their culture by comparing it to what happened during WW2. Have some brains and realize that the symbol has been around for 100's of years before the **** army was around.

    God, how low the complainers have sunk to find absolute nothing to complain about.

    That is why I stay mostly in Off-Topic now.
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  • cenminator1
    cenminator1 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Thanks for infroming me about other uses of the swastika, but as you can read i already did know them. Even then WWII has been one of the biggest things that have happened the past century and thus the first thing that comes to my mind when i see those charms.
  • Ruax - Heavens Tear
    Ruax - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Taken from another website regarding the symbol:

    What it is truly called is a Manji Symbol. Yes it looks similar to a swastika but is different in meaning. A manji (here meaning whirlwind) is a symbol often used in Buddhist art and scripture. It symbolizes Dharma (universal harmony) and the balance between opposites. In Zen Buddhism, the Manji represents the ideal harmony between love and intellect
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    It is a popular symbol in asian culture, but due to its likeness to the swastika has caused problems to other companies when used as a symbol in/on western products.
  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    *facepalm*

    As has been said over and over both directly and in links by others, there are some massive distinctions here.

    i) The swastika has existed for many centuries and is a peaceful symbol, and was horribly misused by Germany's **** party.

    ii) While both uses have variations and exceptions:
    - The vast majority of **** swastikas are counter-clockwise, and on a 45-degree angle
    - The vast majority of modern Asian/Buddhist uses are clockwise, and on a right angle

    iii) It's continues to be used in modern times in its traditional sense. Take a look at Kyoto Japan on google maps for instance: there are Buddhist swastikas plastered all over the place to indicate temples.

    It's really not a problem. People need to stop overreacting and think a bit more level-headed about it.

    As I see it, to put it in perspective, it's like having an evil group use the letter P:

    p

    then complaining when another group uses the letter Q:

    q

    The fact is, although there is a common root (ie. the **** stole it), the two are different symbols with different meanings.
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  • Biomehanika - Sanctuary
    Biomehanika - Sanctuary Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wow and Asian game using an Asian symbol on an item? I presume I am the only one who is truly shocked and apalled.
  • bloblette
    bloblette Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    This thread offends me, please close it.
  • Oldbear - Sanctuary
    Oldbear - Sanctuary Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    mirror it and paint it in blue and you've got Finnish Air Force symbol (1918-1945)

    and btw that so called attitude towards the symbol in it's other sense didn't came from out of the blue. 1939 Finland faced imminent threat of invasion, no... imminent invasion and you can guess which country became their biggest supporter and also the indirect cause why by the 1940 Finland was still on the map as independent state. And no, it was none of the allied countries who prefered to wait and see.

    And here ends the history lesson.
  • Pannelo - Heavens Tear
    Pannelo - Heavens Tear Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I have to completely agree with Isala on this one. We are all agreed that the symbol looks similar to a swastika but it isn't one. Nobody should be offended by this and if they are then it is rediculous.

    Isn't this just political correctness gone mad.
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  • G_ree_n - Sanctuary
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    The reason the **** used it was because it was also used by the Hebrews. I don't remember if it meant peace or happiness or whatever. But I'm pretty sure just about every culture outside of the West has used non-tilted version of this symbol.

    Seriously, this is starting to remind me of the short-lived "Holocaust" faction on Sanctuary and all of the flack they got for it. As if the word holocaust could not possibly refer to anything other then the death of Jews ...
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  • Lenayra - Dreamweaver
    Lenayra - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Interesting point, the charms don't say bound and cannot be removed once equipped. Anyone test if these CAN be removed?
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  • G_ree_n - Sanctuary
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    no One Has Noticed There's A Swasticker On The Gold Platinum Charm Pic? B:shocked
    Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer!

    And I believe you mean "Swastika."
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  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    hi i double post
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    No one asked for a history lesson

    Also, not everyone reads forums so not everyone will read the posts you people have made trying to justify the use of such a symbol

    Tip: get the opinion of europeans (seeing as though this is an international version of the game) before releasing items with potentially offensive images
    Isn't this just political correctness gone mad.

    Yea, still doesn't justify the issue.
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »

    Tip: get the opinion of europeans (seeing as though this is an international version of the game) before releasing items with potentially offensive images

    Tip: Realize there is an Eastern part of Europe that still uses the symbol for what it is supposed to mean. They don't let some idiot who stole it and used it for their flag change what it is. Or are we supposed to only get the opinions of west Europe?
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