Best Anti-Veno Class?

Trachela - Lost City
Trachela - Lost City Posts: 6 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Venomancer
Which class/build do you fear most in pvp?
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Trachela - Lost City wrote: »
    Which class/build do you fear most in pvp?

    Archers (one shot crititals)
    BMs (can cover max range to melee in 1-2 secs and stun lock)
    Clerics (genies + heal + purify + sleep that lasts up to 33 secs.... sleep veno, kill pet, kill veno... )
    HA Veno that can wear Arcane as well using sage fox form.
    A Demon Barbarian that sneaks on you... (can you say one-shot?)

    Wizzards with genie debuffs/sleep and sage stone barrier.... High Mdef high Pdef and very high damage spells...

    Actualy I fear all classes.... They all have the potential to kill a veno, if the player behind them knows what they are doing.
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  • Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    lolwut

    Why would any veno tell you how to kill us?

    That's like telling your mortal enemy the secret to killing you.

    Anyhow, I fear archers, cuz archers like to gank you and then go for you instead of your pet, and cuz they're ranged they can kill you before your attacks and pet get to 'em.

    But truthfully I don't "fear" any class much. There is no such thing as "fear" when you have a herc or nix.

    Although according to a study performed by totale archers are the best class.
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  • Reikara - Heavens Tear
    Reikara - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,321 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Archers.
    I can kill everything else but these. One moment my HP is there, the next it's gone.
    Hardly get to purge or amp them sometimes. Wanting to +7 or +8 my set to help survive them.
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  • Byno - Sanctuary
    Byno - Sanctuary Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    No class is all that bad so long as you can keep moving.
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  • woyaa
    woyaa Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Archers
    Light Armor Wizard
    Other Heavy Armor Nix Veno
    Cleric
    Other LA/Arcane Nix Veno
    Barabrian
    Arcane Wizard
    Other Heavy Armor Non-Nix Veno
    Other LA/Arcane Non-Nix Veno
    BladeMaster*

    *Fists/Axes
    Polearm
    Fists
    Axes
    Sword
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    LaZy|Level 91|Cleric|Heaven|Full Int, retired
    T4nker|Level 8x|Barbarian|Full Con, playing on this one
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anti-veno class?

    None if you actually know how to play your class.
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  • Lolite - Heavens Tear
    Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Veno with nix ...
    Moved to WoW b:bye
  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Anti-veno class?

    None if you actually know how to play your class.

    Conversely, any class can kill you if they know their class better than you do yours.
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anti-Veno is just Veno.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Lolite - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Veno with nix ...

    b:shockedthis...



    and u asked this on EWERY class section b:shocked
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  • DutchTank - Heavens Tear
    DutchTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Trachela - Lost City wrote: »
    Which class/build do you fear most in pvp?

    O.o you asked this in every class section lolb:laugh
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  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    If i saw them coming and switch robes-hvy armour in time no class at same level,if i got caught out in my hvy,most definitley a wizard.
    Quit 100%...and surprised my forum account wasn't banned...yet
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Assuming it's a typical arcane veno, archers can kill it easily. Quick, ranged physical attacks. Push back nix, kill veno, it should be over in a matter of seconds.

    No melee class stand a chance, due to bramble hood. 75% dmg reduction plus 200% reflect. Nix will still hurt even with HA, and the veno will be doing magical dmg meanwhile.

    Wiz and clerics simply cannot do enough damage to veno before bleeding to death. Clerics with plum shell can survive longer, but it's usually just delaying the inevitable.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You still rely on bleed? lol

    Better learn how to play better because I'm not the only one bleed doesn't do much to anymore.
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  • Anberlin - Lost City
    Anberlin - Lost City Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You still rely on bleed? lol

    Better learn how to play better because I'm not the only one bleed doesn't do much to anymore.

    Wow Zoe's still around, still declaring that everyone who uses bleed needs to learn to play their class. Some things never change.

    Do you also still believe that venos are good without pets and people who random pk do so because they have no skill and should move to a PVP game*? b:chuckle


    *Funnily enough, some of us are actually going to do that soon.
  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anberlin - Lost City wrote: »
    Wow Zoe's still around, still declaring that everyone who uses bleed needs to learn to play their class. Some things never change.

    Do you also still believe that venos are good without pets and people who random pk do so because they have no skill and should move to a PVP game*? b:chuckle


    *Funnily enough, some of us are actually going to do that soon.

    *but will zoe?*
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anberlin - Lost City wrote: »
    Wow Zoe's still around, still declaring that everyone who uses bleed needs to learn to play their class. Some things never change.

    Do you also still believe that venos are good without pets and people who random pk do so because they have no skill and should move to a PVP game*? b:chuckle


    *Funnily enough, some of us are actually going to do that soon.

    The bleed now is even more pronounced because it can't actually kill me (I use arcane armor). It takes 2 phoenixes and 2 venos at once to kill me that way. So, if you still rely on bleed you indeed fail because many of us, it really doesn't effect anymore.

    In in the last TW I was in, I saw proof of an idiot veno that needs to learn how to play. I killed her phoenix, and she stopped to res it right next to me. That or running away when I kill your bird proves you have no idea how to pvp well.

    I'll just land and pull out my herc to continue the killing, or ignore my pet all together and debuff everyone.

    So far I haven't found barbs to be a threat really. They just seem to stand there and let me debuff/kill them without putting up a fight. One was smart and used tree of protection to stop me from killing him and I can't remember if it was the same one or not but after I used amplify damage he turtled right after to negate it. Still didn't fight back though. Cata-puller or not you figure they'd fight back.
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  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    just saying solo if my pet dies, and im killing Barbs, you bet I will stop to rez it. Simply put you can't take someone down in 10 seconds who has 19k+ hp. I sometimes let people attack me while doing it, since through bramble hood they cant take me down either. That being said unless things are going bad I usually have my squad with me and will contine to debuff until the target dies, then rez pet before moving on to a new target. simply put Amp Purge and Extreme Poison deal more damage in team warfare than most attack spells, and having a pet out makes them even more potent.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    With the price of charms, the barbs didn't seem to be able to afford them since they didn't have any. It's not surprising with the current price of gold.

    Archers are annoying but with only 1k crits when I'm in foxform, they aren't too much of a threat. A cleric hit me harder with plumeshot. The same cleric I killed at least 4 times.

    The best anti-veno class I'd say is veno. Unless you can kill their pet.

    My 2 favorite things in TW:

    Killing phoenixes (I target them specifically)
    Debuffing barbs
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    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Anti-Veno is just Veno.

    About the only thing I fear, honestly. That's why I created an Anti-Veno Genie for PvP. Now I don't fear anything.
  • Taarloor - Harshlands
    Taarloor - Harshlands Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Veno's r OP b:victory
  • Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear
    Flauschkatze - Heavens Tear Posts: 998 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Debuffing barbs

    <3

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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I has veno on private server, and nothing.b:cute
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  • Anberlin - Lost City
    Anberlin - Lost City Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The bleed now is even more pronounced because it can't actually kill me (I use arcane armor). It takes 2 phoenixes and 2 venos at once to kill me that way. So, if you still rely on bleed you indeed fail because many of us, it really doesn't effect anymore.

    In in the last TW I was in, I saw proof of an idiot veno that needs to learn how to play. I killed her phoenix, and she stopped to res it right next to me. That or running away when I kill your bird proves you have no idea how to pvp well.

    I'll just land and pull out my herc to continue the killing, or ignore my pet all together and debuff everyone.

    So far I haven't found barbs to be a threat really. They just seem to stand there and let me debuff/kill them without putting up a fight. One was smart and used tree of protection to stop me from killing him and I can't remember if it was the same one or not but after I used amplify damage he turtled right after to negate it. Still didn't fight back though. Cata-puller or not you figure they'd fight back.

    lol @ phoenixes cant kill me

    double lol @ barbs that dont fight back

    One of these days I should make a level 1 on HT and come see this for myself b:chuckle
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Umm... umm... Calculus...
    No, no.. History.
    Ya, I'll have to go with History Class.
    b:worriedPWNs me every time
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  • Nevedita - Dreamweaver
    Nevedita - Dreamweaver Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited August 2009

    Unforunately I have to disagree ....

    Calculus pwns me. A simple, "INTERGRATE THIS!" is instant death for me.
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  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    As a HA Veno, I have to say that Wizards are a royal pain in my ****.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anberlin - Lost City wrote: »
    lol @ phoenixes cant kill me

    double lol @ barbs that dont fight back

    One of these days I should make a level 1 on HT and come see this for myself b:chuckle

    I know really. The quality of the players when it comes to pvp on this game is just garbage. The monsters I grind on are harder to kill....
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    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »
    As a HA Veno, I have to say that Wizards are a royal pain in my ****.

    You actually try to fight wizards as HA veno? That's what the bleeding nix is for, silly.b:victory
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You actually try to fight wizards as HA veno? That's what the bleeding nix is for, silly.b:victory

    She is fighting HA wizards with sage stone barrier.....
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