Rebirth Delta a secret?
Deceptistar - Sanctuary
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Does anyone else have any info on delta? Ive been translating alot of JP PW blogs due to the 'secretive' status on delta runs. And I mean secretive because no one who has run it has posted even a Round 1-3 walkthrough, altho I have heard of many attempts. (yes I know pple dont want other groups to out lvl them >_> but still)
The reasons I myself havnt posted my findings are because of the fact that I have not had a chance to implement them in a personal run yet, which I would like to oh so badly XD (waiting for our barb to finish gamma) Once our barb is ready, and I can filter out old and new info out of the translations, I will most likely be sharing it somewhere on this forum.
The only thing I can confirm 100% atm is that delta does not have to have a customary set up like gamma (for example if average lvl is 95+, you can succeed with a 1 cleric 5 wizzy squad. And contrary to what others might say, venos seem to play a noticable role, IF invited in the squad. Delta seems to be, quote from my friend, "Gamma on steroids."
The reasons I myself havnt posted my findings are because of the fact that I have not had a chance to implement them in a personal run yet, which I would like to oh so badly XD (waiting for our barb to finish gamma) Once our barb is ready, and I can filter out old and new info out of the translations, I will most likely be sharing it somewhere on this forum.
The only thing I can confirm 100% atm is that delta does not have to have a customary set up like gamma (for example if average lvl is 95+, you can succeed with a 1 cleric 5 wizzy squad. And contrary to what others might say, venos seem to play a noticable role, IF invited in the squad. Delta seems to be, quote from my friend, "Gamma on steroids."
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From what Ive got from friends, so far leg has weaseled to round 6, and they arent sharing how theyve done it, the point of keeping it a secret is dumb in my opinion, its not as if its any faster leveling than soloing at this point. Classes need very, very heavy investment in gears to DD as fast as possible to destroy waves so far, and it seems pure arcane is the way to go for most mage classes, as HA/LA arent as inclined to dmg as robies are :P.0
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i can give you 1 tip that probably doesnt help that much
but in delta -chaneling and +crit ornaments are usless
would say more but b:surrender haven gotten there yet..
and dont worry as soon as any1 finnishes they will make a guide
i gues atm its all about who does it first
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Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »From what Ive got from friends, so far leg has weaseled to round 6, and they arent sharing how theyve done it, the point of keeping it a secret is dumb in my opinion, its not as if its any faster leveling than soloing at this point. C
Not dumb. Unlike gamma, the rewards for delta are alot more significant than just immaculate gems and xp. You can get old book pages to unlock level 92 sage/demon skills, access to the second past map where you can get some nice gear, and its a part of the final level 100 culti. I believe a card boss that you summon from those summono bot XLs is only accessible in delta.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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There's people on lost city who finish it every day, though some of the people have to have some crazy gear to do it. Only 3-4 mages on the server can do it with their own gear afaik.
if you translate the japanese wiki page on it, thats a really good guide.
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i said it was my opinion lol, but if -everyone- could expirement and do it, it would be beneficial for the entire server. hiding it just makes drama, remember what happened with gamma :P?Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Not dumb. Unlike gamma, the rewards for delta are alot more significant than just immaculate gems and xp. You can get old book pages to unlock level 92 sage/demon skills, access to the second past map where you can get some nice gear, and its a part of the final level 100 culti. I believe a card boss that you summon from those summono bot XLs is only accessible in delta.0 -
Here's a hint. Go read PW China's forum. I did find a guide on the first page where they tried different group compositions and made it to wave five. What's the standard group composition? Too lazy to dig more and find out.0
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Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »There's people on lost city who finish it every day, though some of the people have to have some crazy gear to do it. Only 3-4 mages on the server can do it with their own gear afaik.
if you translate the japanese wiki page on it, thats a really good guide.
kanbisekai.wikiwiki.jp
The delta isnt just for pple who have super gear. If thats it, then their just compensating their lack of skill with ++++gear and force pushing it. (its like saying Lv40 can clear Alpha easy pie but with +12 refinement)
kanbi was the first place I looked. It was good but it was too much general info, some of them just common sense. Translated everything but Im trying to fill in the undetailed places with personal blogs.
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We are finally starting to catch up with Sanctuary server on these. I saw 2 shops with tomes for sale (first time I ever saw that), though they are overpriced at the moment.
No one wants to share info because hoarding that info makes them rich. **** the rest of the server they want money.Main characters
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speaking of you...Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »We are finally starting to catch up with Sanctuary server on these. I saw 2 shops with tomes for sale (first time I ever saw that), though they are overpriced at the moment.
No one wants to share info because hoarding that info makes them rich. **** the rest of the server they want money.
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »We are finally starting to catch up with Sanctuary server on these. I saw 2 shops with tomes for sale (first time I ever saw that), though they are overpriced at the moment.
No one wants to share info because hoarding that info makes them rich. **** the rest of the server they want money.
you talking about gamma? come on...
you could simply read sanctuary server/pwi forums/players guides on this, i could explain if you asked, now.. about delta, you mean another tomes?0 -
Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »you talking about gamma? come on...
you could simply read sanctuary server/pwi forums/players guides on this, i could explain if you asked, now.. about delta, you mean another tomes?
No idea which one I just know when players figure something out they try to keep it a secret so they can get rich off of it.
Looks at pic. Wow, from 90 to 91 my stats / skills are quite a bit higher than they were when I got that screenshot. That's vastly outdated, I should make a new one.b:victoryMain characters
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oh ok, dont worry, youll see fragments being on less than 40k soon.. though, good xp and money lol0
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Theres a full on guide for gamma available somewhere on the forum Zoe. Just put in "rebirth gamma" for search and it lists. The rest is experience but I dont think too much info is withheld on gamma since alot is clearing is already.
Gamma seems to be the easiest, lvl wise since everyone has decent skills learned and gears. Atm sanctuary seems to be in the process of exploring back on alpha, beta, and tho no one is saying, delta more.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Wow im honestly surprised, I thought HT was in par if not more on RB =oZoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »We are finally starting to catch up with Sanctuary server on these. I saw 2 shops with tomes for sale (first time I ever saw that), though they are overpriced at the moment.
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Conc does 86+ rebirth multiple times a day. Too bad I'm too lowby to get in them q.q0
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »Wow im honestly surprised, I thought HT was in par if not more on RB =o
Nah,we're all too busy trying to be a pvp server and using our vast stockpiles of telecoustics b:pleasedQuit 100%...and surprised my forum account wasn't banned...yet0 -
its been completed by at least 2 groups on HT this week (gamma) from what i hears, grats to them0
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
The delta isnt just for pple who have super gear. If thats it, then their just compensating their lack of skill with ++++gear and force pushing it. (its like saying Lv40 can clear Alpha easy pie but with +12 refinement)
kanbi was the first place I looked. It was good but it was too much general info, some of them just common sense. Translated everything but Im trying to fill in the undetailed places with personal blogs.
Find a mage with less than lets say a +8 weapon who finishes it and i'd be surprised. Or anyone who does it with less than +5-6 armor at the very least.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »Find a mage with less than lets say a +8 weapon who finishes it and i'd be surprised. Or anyone who does it with less than +5-6 armor at the very least.
I shall try!!! My weapon is +5 and my group got to the second round of the ninth wave of monsters before the BM died and respawned in 1k. =/0 -
main problem i think is for the squishes to survive, esp. the wizard/mage. the squad usually has one of each class to get the bonus aura i believe. and the mage would usually have agro of all the mobs since they do more damage, yes, more than an archer (or mayb that's just becuz i fail b:surrender). if the wizard can survive then the mobs will die alot faster therefore killing off the mobs before the other wave comes.
i mean anything class dying will seriously affect the survivability of the other classes but the mage is usually the one that holds all the agro, so if he goes bb team.
they seriously need to fix that bug that teles u to 1k when u die tho b:cry0 -
Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear wrote: »main problem i think is for the squishes to survive, esp. the wizard/mage. the squad usually has one of each class to get the bonus aura i believe. and the mage would usually have agro of all the mobs since they do more damage, yes, more than an archer (or mayb that's just becuz i fail b:surrender). if the wizard can survive then the mobs will die alot faster therefore killing off the mobs before the other wave comes.
i mean anything class dying will seriously affect the survivability of the other classes but the mage is usually the one that holds all the agro, so if he goes bb team.
they seriously need to fix that bug that teles u to 1k when u die tho b:cry
be like Jell, get your barrage to level 10, mages wont be hitting harder than you anymore b:chuckleLess QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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my barrage is lvl 10 b:surrender but most of the mages/wiz i go with are like a few levels higher with um...99 weapon +++ refine0
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rb gamma has been long done in sanctuary, ive completed over 40 times and got to 85, now delta, i will give it less then a week to be completed the first time, none of the rbs are hard at all and archers out aggro the mages, and if not just get a stronger archer or weaker mage.0
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Atm I think the problem is, (Im assuming for some) that pple are trying to push Delta as they did similar to Gamma. Like how Alpha is diff. from Gamma due to pple not having certain skills the setup is diff., the changing factor in Delta would be the amount of mobs(and the skills they use or course) and the fact that some come in faster intervals as compared to Gamma
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rb gamma has been long done in sanctuary, ive completed over 40 times and got to 85, now delta, i will give it less then a week to be completed the first time, none of the rbs are hard at all and archers out aggro the mages, and if not just get a stronger archer or weaker mage.
lol good luck. get back to me when u die wave 1. people don't release guides for it as they spend a lot of time wasting charms trying new things to beat it. also the benefits you get for completing certain quests are much better kept quiet from the competition.0 -
The first group to complete RB Detla on HT includes:
Ascension (veno)
Gyonax (barb)
Marin (cleric)
PlazmaStryke (wiz)
Thehate (archer)
Torm (bm)
Since then other groups have completed it also. So pm these people for info. b:chuckle0 -
amazin takin people from 4 dif factions, shoulda taken me as an archer instead b:chuckle0
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I was hoping this wasnt gonna turn into a epeen brag fest ._.;The first group to complete RB Detla on HT includes:
Ascension (veno)
Gyonax (barb)
Marin (cleric)
PlazmaStryke (wiz)
Thehate (archer)
Torm (bm)
Since then other groups have completed it also. So pm these people for info. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Lolno - Lost City wrote: »lol good luck. get back to me when u die wave 1. people don't release guides for it as they spend a lot of time wasting charms trying new things to beat it. also the benefits you get for completing certain quests are much better kept quiet from the competition.
actually i was the first barb to get rb delta to stage 9 so yea i didnt die in stage 1 and also getting to stage nine is verrrrrry easy but i will not release a guide until i have completed which is soon to be done just need a lil more time to get a higher lv to survive the mobs, btw i was lv 87 when we go to stage 9, 3 days later 88 and then 3 days later, 89. Now delta i must say is very similar to gamma based on setup. Dont bother asking any questions to me in game cuz i will give u lame answers till i am ready to give the info.0 -
pics or it didnt happen! the highest anyones been is 6 so far on our server ;p.actually i was the first barb to get rb delta to stage 9 so yea i didnt die in stage 1 and also getting to stage nine is verrrrrry easy but i will not release a guide until i have completed which is soon to be done just need a lil more time to get a higher lv to survive the mobs, btw i was lv 87 when we go to stage 9, 3 days later 88 and then 3 days later, 89. Now delta i must say is very similar to gamma based on setup. Dont bother asking any questions to me in game cuz i will give u lame answers till i am ready to give the info.0
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