Overpowerment in PWI
_Shalimar_ - Sanctuary
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The crying about operpowered classes needs to end. Every class has attributes that make them more effective than others in some areas.
People cry that WF are OP because they can solo a lot of things. WF are an option for people who don't like being in squads much. They do have an advantage with Hercules and Pheonix, but that could be easily fixed by adding a class specific legendary item for each class, perhaps to go in the "Mysterious Gear" slot. But honestly, for a WF to solo TT that it needs for 70 before reaching 70 is difficult. Soloing for your level 80 is damn near impossible. Soloing 90 is suicidal. If a level 90 WF can solo Ancient Evil, then they could be OP.
People cry that WB are OP also, due to the massive health of the WB, and the recent changes to a group of WB skills. In my opinion, go ahead and nerf WB. Then watch how many people end up dead when WB can no longer tank. The changes made to WB skills aid in tanking. The 100% accuracy on Mighty Swing is the only skill that is useless in tanking. Ripping Bite, Pounce, and the speed changes to Holy/Hell True Form all keep more people alive. Yes, they can be used in pvp also. But it keeps people alive. Get over it.
People cry that WR are OP. WR are only good at damage without stuns. Take away their stuns and see how many people quit playing WR, leaving squads without Golden Bell Aura and leaving the cleric without a guard. WR can't do much in pvp either.
People cry that MG are OP. MG have immense damage output. Hell, I have a friend who is a level 77 MG and can kill level 85 mobs without getting touched. They are indeed powerful, but if an enemy does reach them, its over.
People cry that EA are OP. EA can kill robes and some light armor players in one hit. They also have low health and their defenses, while rounded, are lower than others. Their attack per second ratio also is not to be admired. That's why they have such high damage per hit, and a very high critical. It allows them to survive.
It isn't common at all, but people have cried that EP are OP. So what if they can heal themselves in pvp? Take away their healing, sure. Without that, over half the game would be impossible.
Every class has something that makes them powerful. People get beaten by that factor and call it OP. Said factors are part of the staple-classes in the fantasy RPG archetype. Take away those factors and you are left with all classes being identical.
Bottom line is - Overpowerment is not in a game like this. When one class seems to be able to outshine another class in every way, it is due to one having a superior stat setup and the other is an idiot.
People cry that WF are OP because they can solo a lot of things. WF are an option for people who don't like being in squads much. They do have an advantage with Hercules and Pheonix, but that could be easily fixed by adding a class specific legendary item for each class, perhaps to go in the "Mysterious Gear" slot. But honestly, for a WF to solo TT that it needs for 70 before reaching 70 is difficult. Soloing for your level 80 is damn near impossible. Soloing 90 is suicidal. If a level 90 WF can solo Ancient Evil, then they could be OP.
People cry that WB are OP also, due to the massive health of the WB, and the recent changes to a group of WB skills. In my opinion, go ahead and nerf WB. Then watch how many people end up dead when WB can no longer tank. The changes made to WB skills aid in tanking. The 100% accuracy on Mighty Swing is the only skill that is useless in tanking. Ripping Bite, Pounce, and the speed changes to Holy/Hell True Form all keep more people alive. Yes, they can be used in pvp also. But it keeps people alive. Get over it.
People cry that WR are OP. WR are only good at damage without stuns. Take away their stuns and see how many people quit playing WR, leaving squads without Golden Bell Aura and leaving the cleric without a guard. WR can't do much in pvp either.
People cry that MG are OP. MG have immense damage output. Hell, I have a friend who is a level 77 MG and can kill level 85 mobs without getting touched. They are indeed powerful, but if an enemy does reach them, its over.
People cry that EA are OP. EA can kill robes and some light armor players in one hit. They also have low health and their defenses, while rounded, are lower than others. Their attack per second ratio also is not to be admired. That's why they have such high damage per hit, and a very high critical. It allows them to survive.
It isn't common at all, but people have cried that EP are OP. So what if they can heal themselves in pvp? Take away their healing, sure. Without that, over half the game would be impossible.
Every class has something that makes them powerful. People get beaten by that factor and call it OP. Said factors are part of the staple-classes in the fantasy RPG archetype. Take away those factors and you are left with all classes being identical.
Bottom line is - Overpowerment is not in a game like this. When one class seems to be able to outshine another class in every way, it is due to one having a superior stat setup and the other is an idiot.
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What brought this on, AGAIN?You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0
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start to pvp and u'll see for urself[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Awesome post, man.b:victoryThe VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
Having fun since lv1
5 more levels baby!
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Fyrah - Sanctuary wrote: »What brought this on, AGAIN?
Other forums lol XDThe VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
Having fun since lv1
5 more levels baby!
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{=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )
I'm for The Cursed!
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all good and fine, but itd be nice if you used PWI class names so half the forums know what you mean.0
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Tons of people will probably come here and QQ about this.You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0
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Whose the level 77 mage, ish it moi?
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the only one i think is op is veno with flesh realm. nothing else.. (though, if you want to make me deal 100k dmg every hit is ok)
sword warriors FTW (theyre nerfed against DPS, but 1 vs 1 they own)0 -
You can call it QQing all you want. Come to a pvp server and then tell me wizards aren't UPSpoons you will forever be missed in this community0
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Where did one mention Mages are OP? All see is them asking for a mana shield :PCasters FTWb:victory0
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Veno's might be able to solo somethings but I have pked tons of Veno's without much of a fight.
The only time I lost to a veno in pvp I think is when I attacked one that was 10 lvls higher than meThe only way to win is to quit. b:bye0 -
I have a lvl 68 bm a lvl 73 wizard and a lvl 32 cleric. I don't have a veno I've tried it and didn't like it. I didn't read the post, just the title but...
I agree with you 100%. Should we cry about clerics who have massive metal damage? Where wizards have very little metal defense so it would seem?
Or lets cry about Wizards who have awesome water, fire, and earth skills?
Or that barbs have incredible tanking abilities and if I get hit 3x by the same boss I die?
How about blademasters? Adequate tanks with very good damage dealing?
Or archers and their long range, awesome damage, and crazy crits?
Honestly, no class overpowers another. We all have our greatness and our weaknesses. Agree with it. Quit crying about it already peeps![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Let it all begin.You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0
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3...2...1...The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
Having fun since lv1
5 more levels baby!
^_____^
{=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )
I'm for The Cursed!
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Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »3...2...1...
Pretty much, right?You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0 -
BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »How about blademasters? Adequate tanks with very good damage dealing?
emm, i deal 1.5k dmg with my swords.. is that good dmg dealing?? in my axes i deal 2.2k max... and it takes like half an hour per hit, so no, but i understand your point lolFyrah - Sanctuary wrote: »Let it all begin.
you said it b:laugh0 -
My bm at lvl 68 hits way harder than that. Maybe its the weapons you chose? I chose dual axes. Idk no sarcasm there just speculating. At level 68 I am hitting harder than you at lvl 80.Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »emm, i deal 1.5k dmg with my swords.. is that good dmg dealing?? in my axes i deal 2.2k max... and it takes like half an hour per hit, so no, but i understand your point lol
you said it b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Fyrah - Sanctuary wrote: »Pretty much, right?
Ya lol. Watch it be a long posting.The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
Having fun since lv1
5 more levels baby!
^_____^
{=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )
I'm for The Cursed!
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Always makes me feel special hearing about other classes damage output
Sandstorm, 4 seconds to chan/cast, 12k damage(13-14k vs water)Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »emm, i deal 1.5k dmg with my swords.. is that good dmg dealing?? in my axes i deal 2.2k max... and it takes like half an hour per hit, so no, but i understand your point lol
you said it b:laugh
That's how much you hit with axes? TT60, TT70, TT80?The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
Having fun since lv1
5 more levels baby!
^_____^
{=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )
I'm for The Cursed!
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You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0
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before 89, i felt weak as hell
![:\](https://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
, veno spells really do blow, without the pet were kinda ****. now that im ~6k matk, + dmg increase from sage skills, things seem to hurt alot more. my spark makes me feel like i have some sense of strength now o: veno =/= over powered, if anything we're weak > 89 0 -
Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's how much you hit with axes? TT60, TT70, TT80?
TT70 thunderbolt, getting my TT80 dual swords still0 -
Op-ness
Veno= Penix
Barb=Perdition
Mage= Sage Bids
unmm cant think of anything else on the top of my head.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dalamaar: Mizorie you have no soul.0 -
Mizorie - Lost City wrote: »Op-ness
Veno= Penix
Barb=Perdition
Mage= Sage Bids
unmm cant think of anything else on the top of my head.
Phoenix? I totally read that wrong the first time. e.eYou've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0 -
no she emphasized venoMANcer. most players of them are men, and have penixes in their pants, which are fairly overpowered when 'subdueing' women0
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Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »no she emphasized venoMANcer. most players of them are men, and have penixes in their pants, which are fairly overpowered when 'subdueing' women
-facepalm- You're always thinking dirty. roflYou've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0 -
Damn highlighting man and calling them Penixes. Will the term Menomancer ever catch on?Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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lol @ carebear thread... yes, they've all got their pros and cons, time for a big hug now, k?
Barb trying to solo TT, I'd like to see that. Veno + nix/herc = most powerful class without question.
TW? Veno + nix. If you haven't seen it firsthand, I guess you'll never understand.0 -
_Shalimar_ - Sanctuary wrote: »The crying about operpowered classes needs to end. Every class has attributes that make them more effective than others in some areas.
People cry that WF are OP because they can solo a lot of things. WF are an option for people who don't like being in squads much. They do have an advantage with Hercules and Pheonix, but that could be easily fixed by adding a class specific legendary item for each class, perhaps to go in the "Mysterious Gear" slot. But honestly, for a WF to solo TT that it needs for 70 before reaching 70 is difficult. Soloing for your level 80 is damn near impossible. Soloing 90 is suicidal. If a level 90 WF can solo Ancient Evil, then they could be OP.
People cry that WB are OP also, due to the massive health of the WB, and the recent changes to a group of WB skills. In my opinion, go ahead and nerf WB. Then watch how many people end up dead when WB can no longer tank. The changes made to WB skills aid in tanking. The 100% accuracy on Mighty Swing is the only skill that is useless in tanking. Ripping Bite, Pounce, and the speed changes to Holy/Hell True Form all keep more people alive. Yes, they can be used in pvp also. But it keeps people alive. Get over it.
People cry that WR are OP. WR are only good at damage without stuns. Take away their stuns and see how many people quit playing WR, leaving squads without Golden Bell Aura and leaving the cleric without a guard. WR can't do much in pvp either.
People cry that MG are OP. MG have immense damage output. Hell, I have a friend who is a level 77 MG and can kill level 85 mobs without getting touched. They are indeed powerful, but if an enemy does reach them, its over.
People cry that EA are OP. EA can kill robes and some light armor players in one hit. They also have low health and their defenses, while rounded, are lower than others. Their attack per second ratio also is not to be admired. That's why they have such high damage per hit, and a very high critical. It allows them to survive.
It isn't common at all, but people have cried that EP are OP. So what if they can heal themselves in pvp? Take away their healing, sure. Without that, over half the game would be impossible.
Every class has something that makes them powerful. People get beaten by that factor and call it OP. Said factors are part of the staple-classes in the fantasy RPG archetype. Take away those factors and you are left with all classes being identical.
Bottom line is - Overpowerment is not in a game like this. When one class seems to be able to outshine another class in every way, it is due to one having a superior stat setup and the other is an idiot.
almost everything youve posted here is false... please learn to play and then post again.Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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