Coalition of Reduced Item Prices

Dragodarknae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Our faction is about coming into the game and playing together as a community to level each other up and have fun doing it, not to create a monopoly or a super power.

Then why bother selling anything? If you only want to help others when they need it, just give stuff away. I hate to say it, but selling stuff for cheap is a way to make a lot of money, especially if you advertise that your faction is all about "selling stuff cheap." You move a lot of product fast. How do you think Wal-Mart became as popular and profitable as it has? Meanwhile all the single people (small businesses) are struggling to sell their products for even an average price just to progress.

To me, this has 'monopoly' or 'super power' written all over it. A faction designed around fun and leveling wouldn't care about the market one way or the other. You most certainly have motives aimed at making money, which is of no consequence to me, but you disguise it as a friendly and helpful faction. To me, that's much lower than a straight capitalist faction.

Dragodarknae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

We have helped countless newbies on quests that they need and have helped them level up as well, can you say the same?

We have created a faction that does not force our players to give a certain number of hours nor a certain amount of coin just so they have the pleasure of being in our faction. Our faction is about coming into the game and playing together as a community to level each other up and have fun doing it, not to create a monopoly or a super power.

People should be allow to sell stuff at what ever price they wanted. if it doesn't sell, they will eventually lower the price. Heck, if i am buying DQ items at 3-5k. I am not selling my excess for anything less then 3-5k. Its all about the market price as a whole, not the price of a few players. Then again, if you are in a bigger guild you would prob have an access to a "internal" market. I generally give away items to guildies or if i am poor i would sell for NPC price on DQ items.

And i don't believe NPC price is by anyway a fair price. Mold has about a 0.5 drop rate from FB bosses. And yet the NPC price is 100 coins. Now tell me thats fair if i am forced to sell at 100% or even 1000% above the NPC price.

There is actually a wiki already being translated for PWI it is http://1perfectworld.com/quests_in/ maybe you can get together with them and work something out where we can have one centralized location.

Aenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah... Just because something is editable by anyone doesn't make it a wiki. I'd prefer something more like Wikipedia or FFXIClopedia.

Umm it was directed to you only to help in your creation of your wiki, but I will remember not to make a suggestion again when it comes to this. I apologize for it comming out any otyher way. Usually when one says get to gether and work together that means as a resource not as a primary.. but *shrugs*

I like that people are egreedy and try to max their prices and profits as high as they can. It makes it easier for me to sell my stuff. I prefer to move merchandise quickly not sit on items for weeks till someone comes along and is so desperate or lazy they pay top dollar.

I try to price my stuff at a price that will be high enough a reseller will not think profitable enough to buy but if someone needs it the will figure i better buy at this price cause i may never find cheaper. I do this and i make a lot of small quick profits and my bag doesn't overflow.

If something of mine doesn't sell in a few days i drastically lower price if still doesn't sell in a few more it goes to NPC. This is a shame cause i know i npc items people could have used if the right person came to my shop but i just done have to the patience to try to move low demand items.

I don't mind price gourgers or reseller or people tring to make huge profits on monster drops.

The one thing that does bother me is the people who try to resell something you can get at NPC for more than NPC sell for, hoping to stick it to an unknowledgable player. The most obvious is the crazy stone quest that needs level 1 and 2 stone to complete, that you can buy from merchant for 530 but people try to sell them for 1000 and 1500 right buy the quest NPC. These guys, to me, are the truly despicable.

This is the only area i might want game developer oversight to make it so you cant resell a item that can be purchased at NPC for more than that value. That also might be good for stopping beginner players from quitting. I can imagine a few new players end up buying an overpriced item that can be purchased at NPC for way too much money. Then be so pissed at themselves and game they just say to themselves, '**** this game and those greedy azzholes, i quit'

BTW your coalition will never work. For that to happen you would need all people to agree on price of all items in game or have a president to determine price of all items and all members sell all their item within coalition for that price. Some will sell items they kinda agree with price inside coalition and other they know can get more for outside coalition. If you all just sell cheap in your stands that will not work either cause then a reseller will just get the profit. For that to work you would have to farm so many that you flood the market with item. If you really want to try to stick it to resellers and greedy you could get a group and just farm one particular item. I would highly suggest a crafting item and not a DQ. DQ would never work cause they have high NPC value. I would suggest rough fur . It seems like the hardest to find crafting item and most likely to be price gouged item. (Disclaimer - I am impartial cause i no longer need rough fur and that lvl crafting items) Get a group of around 20 to 30 people to farm nothing but rough fur dropping monsters and put about 10k rough fur on the market in a few weeks and see what happens. If nothing else it would be an interesting experiment.

I think rough fur holders and resellers would eagerly buy up to all the cheap rough fur to maintain price but eventually they would get overwhelmed and loose confidence. At that point the price would collapse in short time frame.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The very rich players are not those who sell their drops at inflated prices. The very rich players are those who buy tons of Zen and resell them in the auction hall. Buy 100 Zens, resell them for 95k each = almost instantaneously 9.5 millions in your pockets.

Is this legal? It won't get you banned? I thought I saw someone on these forums who said they got banned for selling zen....

Kazue - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No, they have an auction house where people can buy gold with in game coins.

Oh wow.. That's really awesome. Thanks so much for the tip guys. Just tried it out right now. I saw that before kind of but had no clue what it was.. Now I know I won't have anymore headaches with not having enough money to train my expensive skills... as a dollar goes a long way.. Sure beats buying cash shop items to try to resell them in game. So much quicker. Now to get filthy rich irl so I can get filthy rich in game.... b:laugh (there's some twisted PW addict logic for ya.. ;P)

Oh, and I tried the coordinates of the Coalition out of curiosity. No one was there. I guess whatever enthusiasm there was for this idea must have died.

So actually, if you think about it, most of these materials are only about 2 or 3 pennies, considering the conversion rate... Just a thought. I did think they were rather overpriced before but I don't think so now considering I can get 100k in a few minutes by just going by the auction house. It just takes a while to acquire 100k in game if you're only questing and grinding, as mobs only drop so much... But same goes for materials I guess. They aren't so easy to acquire. I try to pick them up on the way when I find them, and it still takes a long time.. So if you think about it, merchants do deserve to get paid something for all that hard work of gathering them. And then taking the time to understand the economy and the going rates for everything.. tis true!

People easily shell out $16 to see a 2-hour movie or order a pizza or have a couple drinks. I don't think spending a couple bucks for some in game cash is the end of the world, if you really need it.

Just a little note before you read this post when I say game I really mean Perfect World company ATM. And if I use the term server I really mean ATM location.

Perfect World is a money machine first and a game (okay this is the only time I really mean game) second. Don't blame other players for the pressure you feel to spend real money on this game (perfect World Company ATM). They are but mere puppets of a bigger force here.

The in game prices are driven in part by the existence of the boutique and people's desire to own items only sold in the boutique. Another major factor with in game prices is the cost of skills. You really can't expect to play this game and not spend millions of coin on skills. The in game economy has been well designed to make real money for the game developer. In fact I would say they spent more time on the economic strategy of the game than they did the game content. By trying to under mine the in game economy you will probably do your self a dis service when it comes to buying things like skills.

You can lower prices and your items will be purchased by a reseller. Sure a few might find you before a reseller does. I can gather enough mats for 4-6 FB69 wines in about an hour. I sold the mats for half price of what others were charging. One person purchased all my mats and then put a shop up next to mine and had them for sale for 3 times what I did. As far as my old equipment goes I give it all to lower lvl faction members. I also give mats to my faction members at no charge. Am I in game rich no, lucky if I can buy arrows. But if I need something my faction friends return the favor of giving me the things I need.

What ever you do you will do. I would just remind you that if you are that frustrated over the game then it is not worth playing.

And I would like to say to Perfect World nice ATM machine.b:chuckle

YES ! Lets make a faction that does this ! Faction CRIP ! b:victory

I have seen shop wishing to buy items for 100 and having them for sale at 1,200 at the same time. GREEDY lol. I sell at half NPC prices to be fair (Im on my way to become a Heaven Mage!)

I think this is a great idea, and will gladly support it. I will also bring this thread to the attention of my faction.b:kiss