It's not that they suck...

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  • Kriya - Sanctuary
    Kriya - Sanctuary Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    The little fairy over everyone's shoulder aesthetically decreased the quality of the game, period.
  • Snakedoctor - Harshlands
    Snakedoctor - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kriya - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The little fairy over everyone's shoulder aesthetically decreased the quality of the game, period.

    I do sort of agree with this. Now level 1's look like what 9x used to, hahaha
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Bobncut - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Right now everyone is using up the starting stamina the genies come with so they are free skills. Soon, though, the price will start to kick in.

    It's like the 1-week aerogear from the supply stash. The first hit is free, just enough to get you addicted. After that you pay through the nose to feed the addiction.
  • Ayamehowl - Sanctuary
    Ayamehowl - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    How do you get rid of the useless XP cubes after you've used them? You can't destroy or drop.
  • Snakedoctor - Harshlands
    Snakedoctor - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Sell to a NPC
  • ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary
    ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    genies suck. I pretty much keep mine out because it looks cool. All the attack skills are complete garbage...especially for a pure mag veno. It makes no difference in my kill speed. And the heal spell I got doesn't work.You pretty much have to pour all points into magic to be able to use skills in a reasonable about of time. But if you do that, you get no bonuses on your skills.

    I will go try to put that +50% flight speed on mine later...seems like the best one out of all those skills.

    genies are meant as a bonus, not to make you a god of some sort

    for all the complainers, watch this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos
  • Daerina - Heavens Tear
    Daerina - Heavens Tear Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Kriya - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The little fairy over everyone's shoulder aesthetically decreased the quality of the game, period.
    maybe that was the point of them not being very powerful and expensive to maintain, once the initial excitement wears off people will realize this addition isn't meant for everyone to use and will throw their genie in the bank and the streets of archosaur won't be so cluttered =P
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I wished they had made genies not visible.... Last thing I want while in close quarters with 5 other people in a hallway in TT is to have 6 genies flying around getting in my way to see the mobs to select....

    Not to mention the impact in lag in arc... it used to be bad, today arc is all but impossible to even jsut move around.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I wished they had made genies not visible.... Last thing I want while in close quarters with 5 other people in a hallway in TT is to have 6 genies flying around getting in my way to see the mobs to select....

    Not to mention the impact in lag in arc... it used to be bad, today arc is all but impossible to even jsut move around.

    I don't think the Genies block the mouse click, they are transparent right?...but yea I think they would get in the way of vision. Now that you can also zoom out more it shouldn't be too bad, one of my favorite additions to date.
  • Meca - Harshlands
    Meca - Harshlands Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    i suppose its how you use the Genies realy, but yea i personaly think they kinda suck atm, there only remotly good for PK, especialy for defense Vs Nix bleed, Healing skill with 80% chance to cure the bleed and blood clot with 100% chance so thats nice to have...also the amplify damage skill that it can learn which stacks with the veno's amp, but meh, maby these Genies shud of had a level limit before being able to use, and yea the lag does suck.

    everytime something major comes out for PW it always seems to kinda be a failure in some way, with only a few good points to it.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I don't think the Genies block the mouse click, they are transparent right?...but yea I think they would get in the way of vision. Now that you can also zoom out more it shouldn't be too bad, one of my favorite additions to date.

    You cant zoom out more when you are in a hallway in TT... and those things just get in the way, even if you can click through them. My job is usualy to lure, so it is a pain when I cannot see the mob to click on it because I am being buzzed by 6 genies
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    well even with the low damage that they do, a stun or a seal has still gotta be worth something
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    mbrunestud wrote: »
    well even with the low damage that they do, a stun or a seal has still gotta be worth something

    Personaly I am putting the damage immunity skills on my mine, for those times I dont have angels and I really mess up and need to survive long enough until my pet regains aggro. Maybe the sleep/freeze one to help with crowd control when I mess up.
    However, i will be only using them for emergencies, at least until I figure out how to support their expensive appetites.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    mbrunestud wrote: »
    well even with the low damage that they do, a stun or a seal has still gotta be worth something

    They are worth it, but that brings be to my beginning argument...The stuns and debuffs/buffs are just too short at lower levels. Since you need 40-50 dex to add 1sec of duration its just shows that only very high level players will benefit from them. I got such a nice buff called Wind Shield (Increases EVA, ATT rate and one more thing) but its lasts 8 seconds... and its lvl 3 >_> they really need to change how duration is applied to these skills. It's my main issue.
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    And some of the skills don't even make sense. Theres a stun skill that also has a 95% chance of you stunning YOURSELF aswell as the target. Wtf is that?

    And can we get a GM answer on healing not working. ;o
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    And some of the skills don't even make sense. Theres a stun skill that also has a 95% chance of you stunning YOURSELF aswell as the target. Wtf is that?

    And can we get a GM answer on healing not working. ;o

    Heal doesn't heal HP, only removes bleed. Blood Clot only PREVENTS it if it isn't inflicted on you.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    And some of the skills don't even make sense. Theres a stun skill that also has a 95% chance of you stunning YOURSELF aswell as the target. Wtf is that?

    And can we get a GM answer on healing not working. ;o

    Healing
    Current: Replenishes your HP. Has a 80% chance to stop bleed effects.
    Actual: This skill only stops bleed effects. Has no healing properties. - We have confirmed this and will fix the skill name/description text.

    Here is the link. So Healing does not Heal after all by design.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=281312
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    And some of the skills don't even make sense. Theres a stun skill that also has a 95% chance of you stunning YOURSELF aswell as the target. Wtf is that?

    And can we get a GM answer on healing not working. ;o

    They(the GMs) said the issues will be fixed in the near future. A GM already started a thread about Genie skill bugs, you can add any problems and bugs you find to it. Also LMAO @ that skill you are talking about...I was also like WTF?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Snakedoctor - Harshlands wrote: »
    I do sort of agree with this. Now level 1's look like what 9x used to, hahaha

    Funny....makes the lvl89 Sage/Demon not seem all that original and for me personally I think it sucs!
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I wished they had made genies not visible.... Last thing I want while in close quarters with 5 other people in a hallway in TT is to have 6 genies flying around getting in my way to see the mobs to select....

    Not to mention the impact in lag in arc... it used to be bad, today arc is all but impossible to even jsut move around.

    LOL...yup just one more thing to add to the effects in Arch...b:chuckle
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    And some of the skills don't even make sense. Theres a stun skill that also has a 95% chance of you stunning YOURSELF aswell as the target. Wtf is that?

    I saw that and laughed! Since then I have been trying to make sense of it to see if there is SOMEthing good in that one....although I have yet to figure it out b:surrender
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »

    I saw that and laughed! Since then I have been trying to make sense of it to see if there is SOMEthing good in that one....although I have yet to figure it out b:surrender

    Only time I can think it "may" be useful is to use when you ninja-debuff people in TWs, so you jump in middle of pack, debuff, amplify, use that silly skills, worse case you also get stunned, but the enemy will also get stunned while being hammered by your guildmates. So you pretty much sacrifice yourself to stop someone on their tracks so your team can kill them.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Satuki - Harshlands
    Satuki - Harshlands Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    like aren't genie meant to HELP, not kill?
    and you want the genie to attack like a pet?
    i say read the skills before getting it.
  • tyson8
    tyson8 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Personally I think the genies are a waste. I mean, you need 30 to 50 Points just to make a skill last 1 second longer ? I'm a lvl 83 My Genie is Lvl 79, & I still have no where enough Genie Attributes to make that 1 Second longer duration. I mean come on, maybe every 10 to 15 sounds a bit more like it, but 30 to 50, Just a waste of time & coin if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, there nice to look at, but thats about it. I don't expect the Genie to be over powered or do more damage than myself, but at least make them worth spending the 1 million coins that are needed to get Gear for it. I am grateful that the GM's tried to give us something, but most of the skills are useless due to the High demand of Attribute points that they don't give us, or the skill just don't work correctly. The idea of the genie & the concept is great, but the attributes do need to be lowered a bit, & some durations of some skills are way to short. I truly hope they do look into this and make some changes. Cause the idea of this is awesome, just alot of thing's that could use some of the GM's attention.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Only time I can think it "may" be useful is to use when you ninja-debuff people in TWs, so you jump in middle of pack, debuff, amplify, use that silly skills, worse case you also get stunned, but the enemy will also get stunned while being hammered by your guildmates. So you pretty much sacrifice yourself to stop someone on their tracks so your team can kill them.

    Makes sense to a point, but there are pots that work without having to sacrifice yourself too....those seem to make more sense.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Horseman - Sanctuary
    Horseman - Sanctuary Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I personally think that Genies should be so insignificant that you dont NEED one to stay competitive ... if i had wanted a damn pet then i would have rolled a Veno.
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Satuki - Harshlands wrote: »
    like aren't genie meant to HELP, not kill?
    and you want the genie to attack like a pet?
    i say read the skills before getting it.

    1.Uhhhh...they do help, just not very well yet (in my opinion)
    2. Uhhh...they have attacks, so yea I want them to attack lol.
    3. Uhhhh...Skills aren't working well right now so I'd understand why ppl are confused, descriptions are also wrong on most of them

    b:victory
  • Satuki - Harshlands
    Satuki - Harshlands Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1.Uhhhh...they do help, just not very well yet (in my opinion)
    2. Uhhh...they have attacks, so yea I want them to attack lol.
    3. Uhhhh...Skills aren't working well right now so I'd understand why ppl are confused, descriptions are also wrong on most of them

    b:victory

    the skill you used sounds like you need to add str. to your genie
    and there are skills that are useful already.
    you just have to learn which one is best for you
  • Nightfaii - Harshlands
    Nightfaii - Harshlands Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I'm just going to upgrade my genie for the non-attack skills...

    That soul transfusion for the venos looks like a great skill and totally worth it!
    Other than that, Im looking into a chi booster like lvl7 skill essense penetration
    Speed buffs and heals would also be helpful.

    Things that I wont be spending his stamina so fast and I wont mind waiting a minute for the recharge for.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Nightfaii - Harshlands wrote: »
    I'm just going to upgrade my genie for the non-attack skills...

    That soul transfusion for the venos looks like a great skill and totally worth it!
    Other than that, Im looking into a chi booster like lvl7 skill essense penetration
    Speed buffs and heals would also be helpful.

    Things that I wont be spending his stamina so fast and I wont mind waiting a minute for the recharge for.

    Genie's stamina does not recharge alone, you have to "feed" your genie chi stones. It ranges from 20 point for the low levels ones to only 720 points for the perfect stones.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Satuki - Harshlands wrote: »
    the skill you used sounds like you need to add str. to your genie
    and there are skills that are useful already.
    you just have to learn which one is best for you

    I was just posting in another thread about how I have made my peace with the Genies. I was kinda caught up in the moment and just really annoyed about the skills not being very effective.

    I learned that the Genies do get better at higher levels, so I'm dropping my Genies progress to the bottom of my PWI priority list until I'm like 70+ (hopefully that'll happen soon lol).

    For now i'll just be happy with the little guy floating beside me and keeping me company and using what skills it has to help me even just the littlest bit. b:pleased
  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    tyson8 wrote: »
    Personally I think the genies are a waste. I mean, you need 30 to 50 Points just to make a skill last 1 second longer ? I'm a lvl 83 My Genie is Lvl 79, & I still have no where enough Genie Attributes to make that 1 Second longer duration. I mean come on, maybe every 10 to 15 sounds a bit more like it, but 30 to 50, Just a waste of time & coin if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, there nice to look at, but thats about it. I don't expect the Genie to be over powered or do more damage than myself, but at least make them worth spending the 1 million coins that are needed to get Gear for it. I am grateful that the GM's tried to give us something, but most of the skills are useless due to the High demand of Attribute points that they don't give us, or the skill just don't work correctly. The idea of the genie & the concept is great, but the attributes do need to be lowered a bit, & some durations of some skills are way to short. I truly hope they do look into this and make some changes. Cause the idea of this is awesome, just alot of thing's that could use some of the GM's attention.

    Mephistic: Likes this. Hehe

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