The cost to refine +10
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blindeyesniper
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Anyone ever calculated the cost to refine a weapon to +10? If you could refine a weapon to +10, which class would you pick to use that weapon and PK with?
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a dex focused, axe BM with TT90 gold calloused lionheart hatchets b:dirty but thats just me b:pleased0
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1 Star = 1 Star 1x
27 Silver
2 Stars = 4*(1 Star) 4x
1 Gold 8 Silver
3 Stars = 2*(1 Star) + 2*(2 Star) 10x
2 Gold 70 Silver
4 Stars = 1*(1 Star) + 1*(2 Star) + 2*(3 Star) 25x
6 Gold 75 Silver
5 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(4 Star) 60x
16 Gold 20 Silver
6 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(5 Star) 130x
35 Gold 10 Silver
7 Stars = 1*(4 Star) + 1*(5 Star) + 1*(6 Star) 215x
58 Gold 5 Silver
8 Stars = 5 + 6 + 7 405x
109 Gold 35 Silver
9 Stars: = 6 + 7 + 8 750x
202 Gold 50 Silver
Dragon orb Ocean(10 stars): 7 + 8 + 9 1370x
369 Gold 90 Silver
Dragon Orb Mirage(11 stars): 8 + 9 + 10 2525x
681 Gold 75 Silver
Dragon Orb Flame(12 stars): 9 + 10 + 11 4645x
1254 Gold 15 Silver
Total Cost to +2 : 1 Gold 35 Silvers
Total Cost to +3 : 4 Gold 5 Silvers
Total Cost to +4 : 10 Gold 80 Silvers
Total Cost to +5 : 27 Gold
Total Cost to +6 : 62 Gold 10 Silvers
Total Cost to +7 : 120 Gold 15 Silvers
Total Cost to +8 : 229 Gold 50 Silvers
Total Cost to +9 : 432 Gold
Total Cost to +10 : 801 Gold 90 Silvers
Total Cost to +11 : 1483 Gold 65 Silvers
Total Cost to +12 : 2737 Gold 80 SilversPosition: Professional Forum Troll
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Zephyrx - Lost City wrote: »Total Cost to +12 : 2737 Gold 80 Silvers
How did Yoshiki get his bow to +12 :O He must have spent a lot of money.Calamity
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Veno w/ herc has the highest chance of getting +12 without spending real money. Win.0
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ask Plazmastrike in HT... he's got everything +8 and +10... xD
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Literature - Harshlands wrote: »Veno w/ herc has the highest chance of getting +12 without spending real money. Win.
no, u mean fail.
the ones with the hgihest chance of getting +12 without using money is people with 2-3 comp running constantly at the same time. if i had an extra comp just sitting there as catshop everyday i know i could be making at least 2-3mil per week extra just by sitting there catshopping. and well, if i had 3 comps... i might be able to get up to 5mil extra profit/week
this is not including any additional money u earn from ur character from grinding/TT/rebirth.My body is made of swords.
Iron is my blood, and glass is my heart.
I have overcome countless battlefields undefeated,
Without once retreating,
Nor once being understood.
Always alone, intoxicated with victory on the hill of swords.
Therefore, there is no meaning to that life.
Perhaps this body is nothing but a sword itself.0 -
Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »no, u mean fail.
the ones with the hgihest chance of getting +12 without using money is people with 2-3 comp running constantly at the same time. if i had an extra comp just sitting there as catshop everyday i know i could be making at least 2-3mil per week extra just by sitting there catshopping. and well, if i had 3 comps... i might be able to get up to 5mil extra profit/week
this is not including any additional money u earn from ur character from grinding/TT/rebirth.
I made the money for my swiftshadow (4.2m) in a day. And I still had TT stuff to sell which put me to about 6m. ;o0 -
making 6mil in a day is not hard, get lucky find a mold and theres ur money. of course u can also just sell the stuff u had in ur safe and call that money made for that day. only things u found the day can be considered part of the money u made on that day. i could easily go make 10mil+ in under 1 day just by selling off shards and my bracer.My body is made of swords.
Iron is my blood, and glass is my heart.
I have overcome countless battlefields undefeated,
Without once retreating,
Nor once being understood.
Always alone, intoxicated with victory on the hill of swords.
Therefore, there is no meaning to that life.
Perhaps this body is nothing but a sword itself.0 -
Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »making 6mil in a day is not hard, get lucky find a mold and theres ur money. of course u can also just sell the stuff u had in ur safe and call that money made for that day. only things u found the day can be considered part of the money u made on that day. i could easily go make 10mil+ in under 1 day just by selling off shards and my bracer.
LOL..trying so hard to be right. I am not talking about selling my gear nor selling stuff in my safe. I farmed twilight temple and in a day got ALL NEW DROPS that sold for 6m.0 -
lol, or you can farm DQs and mail them to vend them off on the multiple PCs like mentioned. Thats all a certain arsehat on our server does, is use multplie accounts to catshop junk all day.
Farming TT takes ~2 hours minimum a run alone, which means you must have no life. Some of us have lives. (i dont
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I got better things to do than spend all day in TTWe're MysticAve my name is not Dave
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lol spending 2hrs+ on a game means you have no life?Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »lol, or you can farm DQs and mail them to vend them off on the multiple PCs like mentioned. Thats all a certain arsehat on our server does, is use multplie accounts to catshop junk all day.
Farming TT takes ~2 hours minimum a run alone, which means you must have no life. Some of us have lives. (i dont )
I laughed.0 -
apparently you cant read. You should laugh at yourself. failbait.I farmed twilight temple and in a day0 -
Zephyrx - Lost City wrote: »1 Star = 1 Star 1x
27 Silver
2 Stars = 4*(1 Star) 4x
1 Gold 8 Silver
3 Stars = 2*(1 Star) + 2*(2 Star) 10x
2 Gold 70 Silver
4 Stars = 1*(1 Star) + 1*(2 Star) + 2*(3 Star) 25x
6 Gold 75 Silver
5 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(4 Star) 60x
16 Gold 20 Silver
6 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(5 Star) 130x
35 Gold 10 Silver
7 Stars = 1*(4 Star) + 1*(5 Star) + 1*(6 Star) 215x
58 Gold 5 Silver
8 Stars = 5 + 6 + 7 405x
109 Gold 35 Silver
9 Stars: = 6 + 7 + 8 750x
202 Gold 50 Silver
Dragon orb Ocean(10 stars): 7 + 8 + 9 1370x
369 Gold 90 Silver
Dragon Orb Mirage(11 stars): 8 + 9 + 10 2525x
681 Gold 75 Silver
Dragon Orb Flame(12 stars): 9 + 10 + 11 4645x
1254 Gold 15 Silver
Total Cost to +2 : 1 Gold 35 Silvers
Total Cost to +3 : 4 Gold 5 Silvers
Total Cost to +4 : 10 Gold 80 Silvers
Total Cost to +5 : 27 Gold
Total Cost to +6 : 62 Gold 10 Silvers
Total Cost to +7 : 120 Gold 15 Silvers
Total Cost to +8 : 229 Gold 50 Silvers
Total Cost to +9 : 432 Gold
Total Cost to +10 : 801 Gold 90 Silvers
Total Cost to +11 : 1483 Gold 65 Silvers
Total Cost to +12 : 2737 Gold 80 Silvers
this shows what i tried to say a few weeks ago, that dragon orbs prices are way too high. The should be 1/3 of the price.
No plus 12+ item should litrally cost $2700 dollars in r/l cash(remeber for poeple to earn dragon orbs someone will have to spend r/l cash)
thats over 273million coin per item for +12
personnaly i think thast should be 1/3 of that price
Dont you all think?
For the staff it be better too cuz then more peopel would by Drag Orbs0 -
Reenoa - Heavens Tear wrote: »this shows what i tried to say a few weeks ago, that dragon orbs prices are way too high. The should be 1/3 of the price.
No plus 12+ item should litrally cost $2700 dollars in r/l cash(remeber for poeple to earn dragon orbs someone will have to spend r/l cash)
thats over 273million coin per item for +12
personnaly i think thast should be 1/3 of that price
Dont you all think?
For the staff it be better too cuz then more peopel would by Drag Orbs
Well, just remember. Orbs use to be 50 silver each b:shocked0 -
Reenoa - Heavens Tear wrote: »this shows what i tried to say a few weeks ago, that dragon orbs prices are way too high. The should be 1/3 of the price.
No plus 12+ item should litrally cost $2700 dollars in r/l cash(remeber for poeple to earn dragon orbs someone will have to spend r/l cash)
thats over 273million coin per item for +12
personnaly i think thast should be 1/3 of that price
Dont you all think?
For the staff it be better too cuz then more peopel would by Drag Orbs
I disagree, Dragon Orbs are high priced for a reason. I mean would you want everyone and their mom running around with +12 weps+gear? I certainly know i wouldnt b:shocked0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »LOL..trying so hard to be right. I am not talking about selling my gear nor selling stuff in my safe. I farmed twilight temple and in a day got ALL NEW DROPS that sold for 6m.
Oh wow. I can do that too. Full squadded TTs, each boss takes maybe a few mins each. We can farm tonnes of TTs in no time, and make a fortune. b:shocked0 -
Nova_ - Harshlands wrote: »I disagree, Dragon Orbs are high priced for a reason. I mean would you want everyone and their mom running around with +12 weps+gear? I certainly know i wouldnt b:shocked
$2100/3 = $700 for per 12 per item
no mum is gonna pay that per item.
However it will make more peopel buy Dragon orb items.0 -
You don't -always- have to use dragon orbs, you know... If you're insanely lucky, you don't have to use more than 12 mirage stones for armour or 24 for weapons to get +12.
If we say that there's 50% chance a refining will go wrong for each level you refine (or 50% that it'll succeed)... The chart below display the odds of successfully refining to your desired level from a unrefined weapon (or going from any current refinement level to a higher one, really).
+0: 100%
+1: 50%
+2: 25%
+3: 12.5%
+4: 6.25%
+5: 3.125%
+6: 1,563%
+7: 0,781%
+8: 0,391%
+9: 0,195%
+10: 0,098%
+11: 0,049%
+12: 0,025%
Which means that you have about the same chance of a +12 refining as you do to get a Goldenmane Lion Lord from a rainbow egg. And, well... Some people did get Lions from the eggs. b:pleased
Keep in mind that I don't know what the actual odds are, but 50% seems to fit the bill.0 -
lol i have never droped 6 milions items in one day---lol0
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Reenoa - Heavens Tear wrote: »$2100/3 = $700 for per 12 per item
no mum is gonna pay that per item.
However it will make more peopel buy Dragon orb items.
I think you meant $2700/3 = $900 making the rest of your point moreso true.0 -
Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »I think you meant $2700/3 = $900 making the rest of your point moreso true.
Maths ****
b:chuckle
howdy Obs?
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Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »I think you meant $2700/3 = $900 making the rest of your point moreso true.
thanks Obsessed.. so can the staff see my point? 900 dollars for a +12 item is more resonable that $2700 for a +12 item. Again it stays rare enough that not everoyne will have but more apealing that some peopel will have some day.
Come on PWI staff should atleast try it. If this doesnt atleast make there orb sells x5 i be suprised. The orbs will be bought as much as teles.
Heck even low lvl people would buy orbs up to +3 per every 10 lvls if the costs are low.
Trust me im a sales genious (self proclaimed b:surrender)0 -
Enina - Heavens Tear wrote: »If we say that there's 50% chance a refining will go wrong for each level you refine (or 50% that it'll succeed)... The chart below display the odds of successfully refining to your desired level from a unrefined weapon (or going from any current refinement level to a higher one, really).
It actually decreases as the level of refinement increases. I can't find it anymore, but one of the cash shop items used to have a description saying "increases refining success rate" with a list of what those rates became.
Sadly, I think the rates are a lot like those in your chart... only not to get to that level from +0, but to get to that level from the previous one b:shocked
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Enina - Heavens Tear wrote: »If we say that there's 50% chance a refining will go wrong for each level you refine (or 50% that it'll succeed)...
Frequently, your chances of successfully refining will be far, far lower than 50%.
In some other circumstances your chances of succeeding will be lower than 100% but higher than 50%. (Also, apparently other players can reduce your chances.)0 -
Enina - Heavens Tear wrote: »If we say that there's 50% chance a refining will go wrong for each level you refine (or 50% that it'll succeed)... The chart below display the odds of successfully refining to your desired level from a unrefined weapon (or going from any current refinement level to a higher one, really).
[chart snipped]
Keep in mind that I don't know what the actual odds are, but 50% seems to fit the bill.
Unfortunately the odds are much worse than 50%.
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12980
100% success rate on gear refined to level 0. (ignore this since everything starts at level 0)
25% success rate on gear refined to level 1.
10% success rate on gear refined to level 2.
4% success rate on gear refined to level 3.
1.67% success rate on gear refined to level 4.
0.77% success rate on gear refined to level 5.
0.47% success rate on gear refined to level 6.
0.25% success rate on gear refined to level 7.
0.13% success rate on gear refined to level 8.
0.07% success rate on gear refined to level 9.
0.04% success rate on gear refined to level 10.
0.02% success rate on gear refined to level 11.
Basically dragon orbs are always worth their cost, and you pretty much have to use them to have any reasonable chance of success beyond about +2 or +3.0 -
well, u have to remember the luck factor. assuming someone only does duke blacke there is still a small chance of refining to +12 without any dragon orbs by just following blacke's advice.0
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does his advice about refining actually end up being true??
I've never heard of this one
then again I'm new and too low of a levell to be worrying about this b:thanks0 -
0.77% success rate on gear refined to level 5.
wow, well my friend used dragon orbs up to +4 and then for +5 he just chanced it and it worked. so i tried the same and it worked for me, 0.77% chance, i feel so lucky now b:pleasedb:pleased0 -
Enina - Heavens Tear wrote: »You don't -always- have to use dragon orbs, you know... If you're insanely lucky, you don't have to use more than 12 mirage stones for armour or 24 for weapons to get +12.
If we say that there's 50% chance a refining will go wrong for each level you refine (or 50% that it'll succeed)... The chart below display the odds of successfully refining to your desired level from a unrefined weapon (or going from any current refinement level to a higher one, really).
+0: 100%
+1: 50%
+2: 25%
+3: 12.5%
+4: 6.25%
+5: 3.125%
+6: 1,563%
+7: 0,781%
+8: 0,391%
+9: 0,195%
+10: 0,098%
+11: 0,049%
+12: 0,025%
Which means that you have about the same chance of a +12 refining as you do to get a Goldenmane Lion Lord from a rainbow egg. And, well... Some people did get Lions from the eggs. b:pleased
Keep in mind that I don't know what the actual odds are, but 50% seems to fit the bill.
0.000000000000000000000000109973882419439
Is that the chance of getting a Gold Mane Lion?
The number might be slightly off by a bit.
Edit::: 0.000000000000000000000000109995886 is probably more likely.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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