advantage of sword BM?

dingoegret231 wrote: »

why would anyone go the sword path rather than axe or pole arm?

Some of us like to play BM on the hardest mode or setting which is sword.

If you want to play on the easiest setting then you go AXES.


Sword is considered the worst weapon in the BM tree. Saying that, IMO is the best on PVE for melee mobs 1v1. Since you can knockback the opponent with "atmos strike" do some damage and then apply range skills or a bow to hit the mob and repeat the process until the mob is dead (poleblade can do it too).

Myriad of swords stance(ultimate skill on the sword tree) is really good for finishing moves or bosses.

Another thing on sword is that its skills efects are kinda of useless for PVP except for the ultimate. Mage bane effect is useless and the knockback from Atmos does not work on PVP.b:chuckle

However, if I want to save MP. I use fists vs any mob for 1V1 cases.

Saying that, I use fists/swords and a bit of axes as my built but I dont do PVP.

Funny sword story from couple days ago:

A cleric friend invited me to to zhen (just the two of us in nightscream island).

Well, as you know. I'm sword/fists with a axes AOE up to level 1 each, without the ultimate.

keep in mind, many non-bm players are very ignorant regarding AOE, they assume that we can all do what axes guys do. My friend is one of those.

As soon as I started killing mobs 1v1. She says: "you have to run fast and pull many mobs and then AOE them".

Well, I do that but still is taking me longer than regular axes guys plus I'm low vit I cant tank too much. She is saying that I;m doing ok but I dont agree and I decided not to continue.

A wizard friend call me for Zen and since she has two BM (probably axes since in santuary we are full of them)and anothrer cleric. I decided to go since I can help better that way. I invited my cleric friend and we started again.

For my surprise, one of the BM is poleblade and the other is sword too (b:chuckle) they are 79 and 80.b:chuckle

Well, since the guys saw me hanging around with my axes and fists they are pulling the mobs to the BB for me to AOE. LOL

Since they were tanking, I was doing axes AOE plus the AOE skills common in the BM tree. They were just doing the common ones.

Anyway, I think it was worth sharing lol

message: non-bm players still expect you to do the job as axes guys do. LOL

Normally people play what they want to play. Most high level sword BM's like using swords, so they do. Others switch to spear/axe because they want to level faster when they get higher level.

BM's aren't make or break by the weapon they use or the build that they have. It really comes down to player skill.

I personally use all 4 weapons, but find swords the least useful. The only thing that is useful is the 2 spark move. Fists kill faster 1vs1 pve and spear/axe have higher damage so kill faster then swords 1vs1 and can also aoe well.

Zoronoa - Sanctuary wrote: »

hmmm axe bms arent everything lol, i can beat axe bms cus they have horrible accuracy and evasion, im a sword bm but i use claws fighting axe users, and for damage, crits and hitting fast make up for that, hmmmmmmm
calamity axes vs. dark flash and unfortunatly calamity axes lost, and besides there is no real axe bm build cus barbs have that title, its like an archer saying fist is better than a bow or crossbow, or even a slingshot

So I'm guessing that you both just sat there and attacked each other. A smart BM is going to kite a fist BM. When 1 step takes them out of your weapon range it's rather easy to nullify fists attack speed, and when they're doing 2-3x what you're doing per hit you will lose. Maybe you need to get a little higher level or duel better players for it to show though. Using acc equips will easily allow axes users to hit all but the highest evade BM's (talking about the LA fist users with all +eva and high lvl evade shards in there armor).

And an axe BM is a very different role to play then a barb.

Also, you started your statement making it sound like you were going to actually give reasons to go sword but ended up saying why claws are better then axes, which is kinda irrelevant to the topic.

All weapons have there use for BM's and each one can be great in the hands of a skilled player. Some take more effort then others to learn. No one weapon is simply better then another weapon. I honestly do not know a reason to go purely with the sword path, imo BM's shouldn't use just 1 weapon anyway. If you want to use swords then use them. Learning from experience is a lot more helpful then listening to others.

Maddrox - Harshlands wrote: »

I agree with multiple paths definately, don't do it myself because I don't think that it would be anything but mediocre in all of them. But im sure being on a pve server it doesn't really matter much. and I talk smack because I disagree, that's all kid. b:victory

You only get the skills that you need from every weapon.
That's what's makes you strong lol

Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »

Fist OWN.. when you are getting hit by 200 200 200 200 200 200 while you hit 500 miss 500 you notice why they do...

lol, you didn't read my post at all. You don't get to hit for 200 200 200 200 200 200 if they step back an inch and out of fists range (and hopefully you'd crit one of those anyway b:chuckle ) And a HA fist BM is going to be hit a lot by a well geared axe BM. And I'm not talking about 2 misty rings. Just some +acc/dex on equips and using descent acc shards in weapon.

And FYI I love fists and use them quite often. I think they're fun to play with and at some points are the best choice. BUT I use all 4 weapons, I have all the skills and switch between them quite often. The only time I use fists is when I know the other BM isn't going to move away or I'm dueling a barb and the only reason I do is because I refuse to use mp pots like most other BM's do, I believe it makes duels require almost no skill if you don't need to watch mp usage.

To get back on topic, like I said before. The reason to choose swords, or really any weapon is because of your own personal play style. I personally have found out for myself, threw my own experience, that swords fall short in every instance over another weapon. Only sword 2 spark cannot be replaced.

Maddrox - Harshlands wrote: »

Again, PvE. Kthx. You lack in the placement of your Attribute points. The higher they are, the more of an advantage you get. Not including Dex of course, it's just 1%crit every 20 and magic at 5.b:shutup

It's not like hybrid are placing points into magic, we all have the same # of attribute points per level. Axe/Polearm hybrid needs 3 str and 1 dex every level, the other point can go into vit or dex, i really don't see how that puts us at a disadvantage.
Axe/Polearm hybrid: 5 points every level, 3 str, 1 dex, 1 free
Sword: 5 points every level, 2.5 Str (unless you wanna go light armor then 2 str), 1.5 Dex, 1 free
Ignoring the axe vs. sword argument for a sec and looking at axe/polearm hybrid vs. axe
Axe/Polearm hybrid: 5 points every level, 3 str, 1 dex, 1 free
Axe: 5 points every level, 3 str, 0.5 dex, 1.5 free
Really not that much of a difference point wise, and axe/polearm gets the benefit of a larger range of skills.
Also it's kind of funny that you're so proud of the fact that you're pro at pvp in a game where pvp is more influenced by the equipment that you wear and your stats than your actual skill. If you're good at pvp then props to you, but when your arguments are centered around the fact that you're in a pvp server in a game where pvp is 75% stats and 25% skill it means you really have nothing else to be proud of. In other games where pvp is mostly skill related a lvl 1 can beat a well equipped lvl 40; Perfect World is definitely more pve centered than pvp. Stop acting all high and mighty if you're good at pvp (i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt), it's like saying you're the smartest student at a community college.

Blademasters are called blademasters for a reason. When you are able to combine a fight with skill in all weapons, you can really stand out as a bm. Most pick a weapon and stick with it, but that isn't the way to go. The fact that all of them have a solid strengh is more than enough proof to show that a blademaster is an all around wonderful class. Enjoy it, and learn to use each abilty in your tree to it's full advantage, because nothing in the tree is useless if used in the right situation. :-)

Sword, by no means = fail. Sword is a tough path if it is your only path though. Like what has been said many times over here. BM's have many possible paths. Those paths are each viable in their own ways. But If you really plan to shine, you should study all the paths, you should look at the skills and look at the damage and speed at which each path offers and be flexible enough to pick and choose your direction. I think the only real fail with a BM is someone who insists on following one path, and Poo Poo's all the other paths. Every weapon has its place. Swords just tend to be a very generalized weapon. Nothing special in any aspect of it. But, swords are quick, do decent damage, offer a knock back skill and has a very very nice Ultimate skill.

It would be foolish to discount them, along with any other path.

I know it has been laid out plenty of times before.....But, I think when you look at this, you see why some people say swords suck.

Axes-Heavy Damage, and Mass carnage, due to the multiple AOE's available to them, Stunlock is a huge bonus. Wonderful choice while AOE grinding or for FB mobs, due to the multiple mobs and aggressive behavior

Pole- Ranged attacks, quick and still very nice damage. Great for air battles and water battles, Bleed for mobs that like to run are useful, and can stack with draw blood.

Sword-Not a real stand out, but for general 1v1 fighting, swords can get the job done with minimal skill usage, in a pretty quick fashion.

Fists-Fists, I know draw a lot of opinion both ways, but for Pure DPS, fists are perfect, in situations where you want to pull aggro, fists can do the job quite nicely, and with skills like shadowless kick to cancel spells and cyclone heal to speed your attacks this weapon is really useful when in a squad, fighting a boss.

So,
Thats all I got. I played a sword BM till I was in my mid 50's, then I switched to a sword/axe hybrid. I tended to rely more on the axes once I started using them but still had plenty of occasions I used swords.

With my current BM, I am building to be able to use any and all paths. I view BM's as toons that need to be flexible and need to be able to survey the situation and use the proper tools to finish the job.

Good luck

Yeah thats what I do... In face the only skills I use are sutra and marrows and an occasional mana pot to heal my mp. But now currently switching over to axe/sword with sword as secondary weapon. I love hybrids

No weapon is a failure ... If you suck at using that weapon then that's fail... Everything depends on how you use your character in PvE or PvP.. (It also depends on your buildb:chuckle)